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park381

06-10-2008 19:23

Re: What a shame

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 638644)

When I was born and raised on Hornby St (next street downhill) in the 40s, Park Lane was the classy place to live in Ossy.
Nowadays car ownership must detract from that - narrow street with bumper to bumper parking

Not many residents with cars when we moved on to the lane.

One of the reasons we moved off the lane, was the parking problem and constant repairs to car wing mirrors. Some residents have 2 cars parked on there.

Mind on street parking is a major problem every where now

park381

06-10-2008 19:27

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 638645)

Not totally sure, but from memory, and seeing photographs of the park being opened in 1912, the park was there before the houses on Park Lane.;)

Think I would agree with you there, must have seen the same photographs

park381

06-10-2008 19:44

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Is the Rhyddings Park Neighbourhood Watch still in operation, do they still meet in the Stop & Rest ?

Neil	06-10-2008 20:44

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638625)

If you are thinking of adjacent to the kids play area then yes I think you will get some resistance from residents.

What makes you think I would want to put a load of mid teens effin and jeffin next to the little darlings on the swings?

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638625)

Would you not require planning permission or would it be a permissible development.

That's the second time I have heard that term today.

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638625)

Changing the subject, how is the "light" in the park is it still operating and what effect is it having on vandals if any.

It is still there and operating. It allows them to see what they are breaking.
On a more serious note this summer has been quite good so I would not say it attracts vandals.

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638625)

Is there any CCTV coverage in the park.

Yes ;)

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638636)

the Planning Officer in her report to the planning committee in connection with the planning application for the light in the play area, refered to the childrens play area as "the unfortunate siting of the play area". Which indicated that even she was not happy with the location of the play area.

I was not involved with that, it was before my time. I do however think it is an excellent site for the kiddies and would very much like to increase its size as I feel it is now very much undersized for the number of children trying to use it.

I would be interested to know why she thinks it is in the wrong place and where and why she would have placed it.

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638636)

The height of the lighting column actually installed was only 4M, HBC could have saved the expense of the planning application, since a 4M column did not need planning permission.

Thanks for that info, it might same some money and time if we want to light the new area.

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638669)

Is the Rhyddings Park Neighbourhood Watch still in operation, do they still meet in the Stop & Rest ?

Yes it is and yes they do.

Neil	06-10-2008 21:06

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 638645)

Not totally sure, but from memory, and seeing photographs of the park being opened in 1912, the park was there before the houses on Park Lane.;)

My house would just have been inside the park when it was first opened so Park Lane was an afterthought as well.

These bits of maps might help

1893

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...shame-1893.jpg

1911

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...shame-1911.jpg

1930

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...shame-1930.jpg

park381

07-10-2008 07:20

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 638697)

What makes you think I would want to put a load of mid teens effin and jeffin next to the little darlings on the swings?

I thought they were already there :D

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That's the second time I have heard that term today.

HBC used that to build/install the play area

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I would be interested to know why she thinks it is in the wrong place and where and why she would have placed it.

I seem to remember words like "on the brow of a hill"
A level site, which would also have saved HBC some money would have been on the site of the old paddling pool. That was the area talked about by the local councillors before the event.

Neil	07-10-2008 07:32

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638849)

I seem to remember words like "on the brow of a hill"

Strange it is no where near the brow of a hill, the brow would be up near the Shoulder of Mutton ;).

Like I said I think it is now too small and its location allows it to be extended. It is highly visible which is so people in the area can see if there is any trouble happening. As far as I know we don't have any serious problems occur in the area which could be down to location. The old site really was tucked out of the way. If a child fell and hurt them self they could lay on the floor unnoticed for ages.

For a similar reason the youth shelters are never enclosed on all sides. The site of the old tennis/basketball court is very poor as well. No one passes by unless they are going to that area. An injured person could be there for hours.

The bid includes moving pets corner to where the basket ball court is. This would reduce the isolation issue because Pets Corner is a busy area when open. Once locked up at night it would then be a quiet area for the animals.

park381

07-10-2008 08:04

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 638855)

It is highly visible which is so people in the area can see if there is any trouble happening.

You mean the houses directly in front of the play area, that would be Park Lane I assume. The houses on Fielding Lane do not get a clear view because of the trees. The houses on Malvern Ave have no view of it, neither have the semi's at the far end of Park lane. The houses on Rhyddings street can only see the park gates from their front doors,plus most people would walk past with their eyes closed for fear of reprisals from the yobs at a later date. :D

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The site of the old tennis/basketball court is very poor as well. No one passes by unless they are going to that area. An injured person could be there for hours.

Who would want to risk going to that area.

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The bid includes moving pets corner to where the basket ball court is. This would reduce the isolation issue because Pets Corner is a busy area when open. Once locked up at night it would then be a quiet area for the animals.

I would have thought there would be a greater problem with the pets corner if located at the back of the park, you have already indicated above that the tennis/basketball area is poor, so why put the animals at risk in that corner. :confused:

Neil	07-10-2008 08:18

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638876)

You mean the houses directly in front of the play area

Not really referring to just the houses, people walking on those streets may see something though. It's location makes it very visible for other park users. Many people exercise their dogs on the big field. Brave people even enter the park at the end of park Lane or the top of Rhyddings street and risk the bottom path leaving at the Fielding Lane gate as a cut through as well.

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638876)

Because we would turn if from one of the least visited areas to one of the most, doing such would remove the problems with its isolated location. The same isolation will be peaceful for the animals after hours.

park381

07-10-2008 08:36

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 638881)

I thought all the problems with the existing pets corner happened at night or after hours, when things were supposed to be "peaceful". So how is moving it over to that back corner of the park going to help, is there not access to that area from the woods adjacent, as in over the wall. Or do you intend to to install floodlights & CCTV to the area

jaysay

07-10-2008 10:11

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If X on the map is our gaffe is that where Dr. Bhat's surgery used to be?

Neil	07-10-2008 10:37

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 638890)

We have only had 2 or 3 problems with pets area in the 18 months ish since the Friends took over. I think that is very good considering it is nor fully open to visitors down the path - don't you?

jaysay

07-10-2008 10:47

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 638915)

If X on the map is our gaffe is that where Dr. Bhat's surgery used to be?

I will have to hit these keys on my laptop harder, it should have said your gaffe Neil not our:rolleyes:

park381

07-10-2008 12:06

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 638924)

We have only had 2 or 3 problems with pets area in the 18 months ish since the Friends took over. I think that is very good considering it is nor fully open to visitors down the path - don't you?

Fair comment, things must be getting better then, I hope it works out and you get the funding, at least in that back corner the animals won't be able to dig their way out because of the concrete base :D

park381

07-10-2008 12:11

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 638915)

If X on the map is our gaffe is that where Dr. Bhat's surgery used to be?

Coming up Rhyddings street, on the block between Catlow Hall street & Hornby Street - middle of row left hand side.

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