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Does anyone else agree that there should be a zebra or better still a pelican crossing by Ossy Mills? There is a car park on the opposite side of the road, but nowhere really safe to cross. There isn't even one outside St Paul's School. There is nowhere really safe to cross the road between the Health Clinic at the top, and Church traffic lights, and Market Street/Union Road carries quite a bit of traffic from time to time. I know there aren't a lot of houses on the other side, but some of us live there!

Who do I pester? - Hyndburn Council or the local Police? I am quite prepared to do either or both.

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Good idea, Pendy - maybe stick a few extra speed cameras on Union Rd as well. IMHO there's nowhere near enough of those in Hyndburn.

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Good luck with your pestering but don't hold your breath.

There is no zebra crossing on Queens Road West near Moorhead and St Christopher's high schools. In the mornings and late afternoons that is often a very busy road. Because the children are over 11 it is not deemed necessary for a "lollypop person" to assist them. Several children have been injured crossing the road there including my daughter who run over last October and ended up in intensive care. Still the council in their wisdom see no necessity for a pelican crossing. Are they waiting for a child to be killed?

I agree with you that Union Road is very busy and always has been. When I worked in Church I remember the difficulty I had trying tio get into the traffic in Market Street in order to get home. Quite often I would just give up and go upwards instead and along Moscow Mill Street.

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In most driver's opinions, myself included, there are far too many speed cameras, not too few, and not just in Hyndburn. As to the Zebra or Pelican, the area is very busy and would most likely benefit from one.

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I think you should get onto the council and raise the "health and safety issue" on how visitors to our area are meant to cross to one of the area's only tourist attraction.. This should make them think? One thing is for sure they will not act on your concern's as a local....:( But play on the visitor appeal etc.

And ask Ossy mill's how they feel about the health and safety of there visitor's.

I have seen the council jump through hoop's when "The health and safety issue" is pushed.... Let's hope eh..

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I think they'll probably point out that most of the visitors will have come by car or coach and will therefore have parked at the same side of the road as Ossy Mills so the existence of a crossing won't be relevant.

I'm trying to think where I have crossed Union Rd (probably where there's a "traffic island" and done it in two stages.)

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There was a pelican crossing by the foxhill pub and the clinic on the corner of haworth st, i don't know if its still there?? :D

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Yes, there still is, so you can lurch out of the clinic and into the Foxhill. Unfortunately that is the only one - nothing going down to Church until the traffic lights at Blackburn Road, even with the school, Ossy Mills, and the station on the way.

Willow, there is a traffic island outside the school, and it is easier to cross in two goes, but for young children and elderly people (and I'm getting there) it isn't a big help.

I am going to press the Council, and I will rope in Ossy Mills' management. It is probably right that the Council will do nothing for the locals, but will bend over backwards to pander to tourists!

Mind you, it will probably mean a small increase in Council tax ....

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They will probably stick one of them pink lines across the road that makes people think its a crossing and that cars have to give way when they dont... The amount of times I have to slam on because someone steps out thinking I have to stop.... Someones gonna get hurt :(

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You can put as many speed cameras as you want in Hyndburn.. I have the perfect way of never being flashed..... I just keep to speed limits... Stick em where ya want I dont care.. :)

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On Queens Rd West? Whereabouts? I went up there to check the scene of the accident and there wasn't one then. There is one in Whalley Road but my daughter isn't crossing Whalley Rd. She crosses QRW outside the school driveway (which is now the main entrance as opposed to the old Cromwell Avenue entrance). My daughter comes from the direction of the town centre (as do a lot of other children) and has to cross QRW. I'll have to go up there again and have another look.

I'll be interested in seeing what kind of response you get. Good luck.

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yes there should be a crossing there it is very busy as i know the area.It would be a lot safer for ppl to cross

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Willow, Pendy is talking about a traffic island on Union Rd not Queens Rd West.

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Ossy Mills have acquired the land from the garage which is on the opposite side of the road then the mill shops - and it certainly would be beneficial for a zebra or pelican crossing to be nearby (especially as the average age of Ossy Mill's customers is 206, therefore, they would find it quite difficult to sprint across!!!)

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Any idea what they are going to use that land for? If it's a car park then they will certainly be interested in having a crossing from there to the mill shops

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It is a carpark and has been for a while now.
I think the least that ossy mills could do is put a crossing patrol on during opening hours.

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I Know what you mean near ossy mills but they get away with it . If it was us we would not be able to put a car park there in the first place because of health and safety

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Latest news - meant to post it before. Last time I was up, I nabbed one of the managers at Ossy Mills. Apparently there are plans for a crossing, it has been discussed with Hyndburn, and Ossy Mills are pressing for this. However, if Hyndburn are involved, don't hold your breath!

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When I asked at Ossy Mills, they said "the Council". I just assumed it was Hyndburn, and didn't hold my breath. As a large part of our Council Tax (ouch!) goes to Lancs County Council, I should have realised that they have to be responsible for something (although in local government, that doesn't always follow).

Either way, I shall keep pressing!

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Nooo no crossing it can be a nightmare trying to get out of Moscow Mill Street as it is, a crossing will just make it worse.

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I think your reply is a bit selfish, this crossing is about making it safer for people to cross a busy road not about a couple of minutes you may have to wait for them to do it.

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it might sound that way but that car park is only ever really used at weekends, so most of the time there is no need. Also in out local neighbourhood newsletter there is mention of other local people complaining about that junction. So what is selfish? A crossing for those visitors who go shopping at the weekend, or the desires of the locals. Surely it would be more considerate of the shoppers to wait a couple of minutes to cross the road than all the locals every day!

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Okay, let's make everyone happy. Let's have lights at the corner of Moscow Mill Street and Union Road, with a pedestrian phase, so everyone can have a turn.

However, that still leaves the school further up the road without a safe place to cross, only an island in the middle of the road ......

Oh, and yes, I do drive too.

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well to be honest you might have something there, also with the increasing numbers using moscow mill street and new housing estates, it might be worth improving moscow mill street itself.

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Hi

Very interesting thread, am assuming the problem is caused by the car park (old petrol station) on Union road.
There is a point, someone quoted "health & safety". The cars are parking on an "old petrol station", what about the underground tanks, have they been made "safe", are they filled with concrete, or what...........if not, and they have just "capped" the tanks then its WOW cars are sat on a time bomb............petrol vapour is worse that the liquid. Just a thought.
Something does need to be done with the union road moscow mill street junction, both from a pedestrian point of view and a drivers point of view, it is a very difficult place to get through at peak times. I think the owners of "Ossy Mills" have done a lot to bring back employment, and interest to the area, possible up to HBC to add a little to help

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I shall ask again next weekend, when I go to Ossy Mills (I come up with a shopping list for friends in London, who can't believe the prices!). It's not just Ossy Mills, though, I only quoted that as a possible pressure point. There should be a crossing for the local residents - there isn't even one by the station, where people may well need to cross with luggage, and there are two blind bends. All it takes is one idiot who thinks Market Street/Union Road is a racetrack.

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i to agree, its only a matter of time till someone gets knocked down there, it was said that about the road outside accy townhall, now it has happened!!!!

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their is a local neighbourhood watch news letter, which comes through my door once a month.

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lf it's the Rhyddings Park newsletter, the editor has received hate mail. Not about traffic/crossings but from people opposed to the new playground, which incidently was packed with children today, a bright cold early winters day. Which it certainly wasn't when it was in it's old position under the trees behind The Stop.

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nope it's the grange neighbourhood watch

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Lol. l bet you think it was me now! The editor showed it me, without naming names a few people are really angry on Park Lane that they can see the playground, they want it screened with a hedge & trees- just like the old hidden place it was, frightening for children, ideal for vandals. My Mum faces it more than the Park Lane letter writers, & it's harder to get out of her drive now but loves seeing the park used ,more than it has for ages. lt's a public ammenity for the all town.

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Fielding Lane, near the gates, its always busy now but people are coming from all over to use it, which l thinks great, even though l nearly backed into one yesterday!

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Yeah she goeto the meetings. l hope your not 'Angry of ParK Lane'? Where do you live? ln the park? - your a dead good writer for a squirel!
Both pubs are still for sale, there was a rumour a couple of months ago, that a male couple from Bolton had bought it & it was going to be a 'fun' pub!
Sausage bap?

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Mother attends the meetings thats not a problem,I used to attend myself, as for an "Angry of Park Lane" that depends what you class as angry. Do you have "all" the facts or are they second hand, if I may quote from the second application by HBC for the installation of a light in the "play area in the park" where HBC's planning officer for oswaldtwistle referred to the siting of the play area as " an unfortunate siting on the brow of a hill" in direct view of park lane .The lighting application was granted but on certain conditions, the main being that it was for a period of 12 months only, and that was to see quote "what effect it had on the vandal problem in the play area - to see if it works" if it dos'nt work it is to be removed at the end of 12 months. The application was passed by the planning committee on the 5th Jan 05............still no light?
The residents of park lane have no problem with the play area, as long as it is used for what it was designed for, children up to the age of 12. But it's the 14/15/16 year old that use it for a drinking area, have you ever seen the park worker collecting all the cans and bottles each morning.
But yes it is nice to see parents and their small children enjoying the play area.
OK I think that's enough for a squirel.

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OK. But it's not just Park Lane, it's also Fielding Lane that can see the play area, & will see the lights if & when they're installed. Of course there is still vandalism, but a hell of a lot less than in the old play area. Very often there were no swings or anything @ all. The park was opened for the people of Ossy, no view is ever guaranteed where ever we are. The cameras the neighbourhood watch moniters, also helps identify vandals, were it couldn't when it was in the old place in the trees behind the Stop.

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LOL, don't worry, the letter l read was an open letter, it was read @ a meeting. l've not broken the offical secret act, and it was signed & l know it's from neither of you.

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Again l agree with you: but cheek from teens has nothing to do with the sighting or lighting of the play area. lt happens sadly all over. l suspect like me you've tried to stop them playing footy on the balling green, or tried to explain that my grandpa was killed in France aged 21, and we consider the war memorial his grave, when they're sat drinking on it, or even just tied to go to a shop after dark when they rule the streets.

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LOL, there were two squirels reading the thread for ages, l thought it was the Park Lane, flying squirel squad about to arrest me.

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Go to bed, your nuts 'll be frozen.

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Hey, you got any spare nuts
:wave: :wave: :wave:

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LOL, l'll put some fresh ones out for you! Enjoy sitting in your tree in the sunshine.

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I was almost killed on a Zebra crossing the other week,the pillock was driving at full speed and was on a mobile phone,he just missed me by a whisker,I was four stripes across the road and wearing a nuclear yellow coat, it was 9.40 am,pitty the old bloke crossing the other way was' nt quicker at walking cos he could have got him as well!
just to make things worse he started shouting abuse at us! he drove off very fast so we could'nt get his number,good luck with the crossing,just hope drivers bother to stop when it's used!

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Several letters were sent to the council complaining about the play area by Park Lane residents. A few of them were very amusing. I know my spelling is bad but one I read would have been better written by my 7 year old. I still remember which house number it was from :D. I wish I was good at palming because I would have loved to post it on here.

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Nope I just read a few of the letters sent to the council :D:D:D

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Not at all.
My avatar is taken at work. I suppose it could be from when the roof melted from all the hot air in Scaithcliffe House. PMSL

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:confused: You sure about that

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Smart A**
Just like the Globe Centre eh :D

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Its cast iron being poured at about 1400 degrees C - even hotter than HBC hot air

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Maybe the reason do not have a Crossing near Ossy Mills/Old Petrol Station is because there is one next to the Clinic and Foxhill Pub.

I agree though, there should be 2, one by Ossy Mills and on by the Railway Station!.

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Why

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So pedestrians can be safe.

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Ohhh who would a thout it;)