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entwisi 08-08-2005 16:09

Forget Bulldog.....
 
NTHell maybe the way to go

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4749987.stm

:)

I can only say this has to be good for everyone as it will push the increase in ADSL speeds through faster.

It won't be long before we really are at a point where SKY has a credible competitor for supply of visual media.

Ian

WillowTheWhisp 08-08-2005 16:11

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
:D and to think AOLHell were trying to convince me I would never need as much as 8!

We've only just giot Bulldog so we'll stick with it for a while I think.

andrewb 13-08-2005 11:40

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
The thing with NTL is they'll be giving you a 10Mb connection and nice pings.. but I suspect they'll make you pay through the roof for breaking limits.. I'd much rather have bulldogs unlimited because it's £30/month rather than £35/month with 75Gig cap :p

Also.. why don't NTL just jump away from everybody else and start offering 50Mb cable? They have already said they have the bandwidth to do it, and yet they dont..

By the time they finish this 10Mb upgrade adsl2+ will be here and pumping up to 24Mb down our lines, and adsl is available to so many more people than NTL..

Mick 13-08-2005 16:40

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
I am with NTL and the cap is 1GIG per DAY = 30 GIG per MONTH if this help anyone

entwisi 13-08-2005 20:32

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
Which should realsistically be enough for most things. Only occasionally will I exceed 1 Gig a day.

Ian

vorlon24 14-08-2005 19:59

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
We don't get NTL here - we have Telewest instead, which I hear are better than NTL

KIPAX 14-08-2005 20:02

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
Bulldog are getting a bad name more and more each week.... i was with them for about a year or more... I have now got rid and gone to www.enta.net 2mb with no limits

entwisi 14-08-2005 20:07

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
Usual popular service, can't cope with demand type situation.

There is talk that the parent company (Cable and Wireless) are sending in trouble shooters to sort out the problems.

Ian

KIPAX 06-09-2005 17:36

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Looks like I got out just in time..... Bulldog are going to be on BBC Watchdog there that bad....

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communicatio...9216716,00.htm

andrewb 07-09-2005 17:34

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Yeah well watchdog are all a bit late really. Loads of the problems have already been sorted, two (or more?) new support centres have been added and to be fair, what do people expect, Bulldog are trying to get the max out of your line, theres bound to be problems sometimes.

Personaly ive had 100% uptime, and perfect service from Bulldog. I can't say that about any other ISP including the big retail names such as BT and Wanadoo.

If anyone should be on watchdog it's BT. They have always made a royal dogs dinner whenever they've had anything to do with my line. They promised me broadband week after week for two months before, and still I didn't recieve my broadband. Their customer service just tell you a bag of lies and then next time you ring up you never get to speak to the same person again.

I delt with the same person throughout my purchase of Bulldog, by simply asking to be put through to a certain person.. great ISP :))

KIPAX 07-09-2005 17:40

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What I expect is a service as thats what I pay for... I had over a year with bulldog and I am online probably 18hrs a day... they didnt give me a good deal and i simply could not get through to any sort of customer support..... however sales takes like 10 seconds to get a human to talk to...

Glad I am out of it....I used BT Openworld broadband for about 4yrs before them and although they had problems ..they did have a support system that sorted ya out...

now with enta.net and so far after a few months so good.... i guess we all ahve different experiences..... The BBC and watchdog are no fools you know.. they wont run the program unless here are problems...

entwisi 07-09-2005 18:06

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They will aslo not run reports if they are scared that the company might bite back. Remember the Kodak Fiasco a few years ago? Watchpuppy wouldn't get involved.

andrewb 10-09-2005 11:10

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Adslguide.org has something about it on their frontpage. Basicly things WERE bad, and thats what Watchdog reported on, but they reported on a time period thats in the past, most things are sorted now.

andrewb 18-09-2005 13:51

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"Good news! We are currently expecting to enable your exchange in Jan-2006 . "

Thats what I get when I enter an Accrington BT phone number in to the Be website!

24Meg here we come :D

WillowTheWhisp 18-09-2005 14:37

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
Our complaint re Bulldog is that a lot of the time we aren't getting the 8mb we paid for. I need to find time to get on to them about it but I always seem to be on the phone about other things to other people. (Typing posts on AccyWeb while waiting to be passed on to relevant departments etc. Hows that for multi tasking?)

Don't ask me about Wannado. That was a nightmare and a very long story but so hard to get rid of that I never want to see anything about it ever again!

andrewb 18-09-2005 17:39

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
What speed are you connected at? I'm on lower manchester road, so quite close to the exchange (which is just next to the bus station in town)... I connect at 8000kbps and get download speeds of around 830kb/s

If you live a lot further away than you wont get 8Meg.. you'll get 'up to 8meg'.. which is maybe 5/6/7 depending on where you are as I say

entwisi 18-09-2005 19:26

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
Willow is up Willows Lane so not that far from the exchange. Wlyhat most people forget is that all ADSL is 'Up To' based on contention ratio. i.e. teh number of people who connect on the same LU as you all share the same connection. I like Pipex for that reason. Whilst I 'only' get 2 M, its 2M permanantly with no issues.

Ian

andrewb 18-09-2005 21:04

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
Hmm well i've always got 830kb/s from newsgroups, but from the majority of web servers you'll be hard pushed to achieve the max from an 8Meg line too.. unless it's like a Linux download site which are dedicated in shifting a huge amount of data...

So I guess it depends where you're measuring the speed too willow..

Are you tempted to switch to Be in January entwisi? ;)

Edit: I dont know where on Willows lane you are Willow, and Google maps refuses to give me the Postcode... so I used Mount Carmel postcode for referance.

I'm connected at 8000kbps and 630metres (straight line distance) from the exchange, where as mount carmel is 1.3km (straight line distance)

Now.. it depends how crazy the BT lines are to the exchange as that number could well double, which could be a reason for you not being connected at 8000kbps (if you arnt)

WillowTheWhisp 18-09-2005 21:46

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
We're not far from Mount Carmel actually.

I'd have expected to get closer to the 8meg than what we are getting which seems to be less than we had with AOL most of the time even though that wasn't supposed to be anything like as much. (2meg)

Surely we shouldn't be less than 1m which at times we have been.

I've got the feeling I might end up not making sense if I waffle on tonight so I'll shut up now and come back when I've woken up tomorrow!

dazzalam 18-09-2005 22:25

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Dont touch Bulldog with a bardgepole, quite a few months ago I saw bulldog advertise , so being greedy rang up and registered,mcancelled my ntl phone, got bt installed and was told to wait patiently for a few months, so I did. After returning from holiday in Aug my bt phone was dead, rang BT only to be told Bulldog now owned the line, "tried to ring Bulldog" after 1 week finally got through explained "we have to call a different number" 2 WEEKS PASSED and finally bulldog told me BT still had the line, rang BT, No bulldog deffo have your line, I said I was sick of this and I couldnt get through could I just get my BT line back on, NO bulldog have to cancel the order, 1 week of trying and finally cancel the order with Bulldog, ring back BT, 3 week wait to get an engineer out, what for Bulldog didnt even do anything? wait the three week and bt still didnt put the line back on, why, apperantley because i had a ntl number when i cancelled with bt the line went to bulldog and the number went to ntl, so a further week passed and i got the line back on with a new number.

Bulldog...............Bulls**t more like

as for ntl i have 3 Mbs and i regular download 4-6+ GB per day and have never had contact from NTL about capping!

WillowTheWhisp 18-09-2005 22:31

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When we changed from BT to Bulldog it went through very smoothly. First there was a dialtone when we were still with BT, then briefly there was no dial tone, then there was a dial tone and we were with Bulldog. Smooth as silk. Can''t complain about that at all.

(really must go to bed!)

andrewb 19-09-2005 21:14

Re: Forget Bulldog.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzalam
Dont touch Bulldog with a bardgepole, quite a few months ago I saw bulldog advertise , so being greedy rang up and registered,mcancelled my ntl phone, got bt installed and was told to wait patiently for a few months, so I did. After returning from holiday in Aug my bt phone was dead, rang BT only to be told Bulldog now owned the line, "tried to ring Bulldog" after 1 week finally got through explained "we have to call a different number" 2 WEEKS PASSED and finally bulldog told me BT still had the line, rang BT, No bulldog deffo have your line, I said I was sick of this and I couldnt get through could I just get my BT line back on, NO bulldog have to cancel the order, 1 week of trying and finally cancel the order with Bulldog, ring back BT, 3 week wait to get an engineer out, what for Bulldog didnt even do anything? wait the three week and bt still didnt put the line back on, why, apperantley because i had a ntl number when i cancelled with bt the line went to bulldog and the number went to ntl, so a further week passed and i got the line back on with a new number.

Bulldog...............Bulls**t more like

as for ntl i have 3 Mbs and i regular download 4-6+ GB per day and have never had contact from NTL about capping!

I've had this with BT Heh :P but Yes I agree stuff like this really puts users off, and Bulldog did make a big mess of things a while back (even if my switchover went perfectly) At least with Be I think you can keep your BT phone line so the worse that can happen is lose adsl for a few weeks.. :)

and yes i'd ring them Willow, i'm no expert but i'd think you should get more than 2Mb really..


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