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katex 12-10-2011 09:14

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Originally Posted by wadey (Post 930425)
Sorry if this has already had a mention

THE life and times of the wealthy Bullough family, which employed thousands of Accrington folk at the height of the textile industry, is charted in a new book.

It tells of luxurious steam yachts, a castle on a Scottish island, with alligators and humming birds and the rise of the town’s Globe Works.

The family who shaped Accrington (From Lancashire Telegraph)

This gentleman, Alistair Scott, who wrote the book as mentioned in the LT article, is the lecturer at the next Hyndburn Local History society. Entitled 'Eccentric Wealth' as per his book:

The Bullloughs of Rum,
Alistair Scott from Edinburgh.
November 3rd.
The Lecture Room,
Accrington Library.
7.30 p.m.
£2.50 non members.

Big Dave 12-10-2011 12:51

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I started in Jobbing(spares)stores in 1970 went 'upstairs in 1982 as a progress chaser after 'new company formed by Hollingsworth.Progressed up to purchasing manager and in 1993 60 people moved to the old OXO plant in Great Harwood.5 years later a company from Bradford bought what remained of the spares business which was by this time just 2 people one of which was me and put us in an office in Colne for 12 months and then moved us over to Bradford .After travelling over there for 5 years I retired early in December 2006 And today my former collegue still sells spare parts for Platt machinery
amongtst other textile machinery parts.I have in my possession the original brass Howard and Bullough registered office sign which was
outside the Globe works.I did once offer it to a councellor for the Globe Centre but never heard back.

groove 16-10-2011 12:25

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Groove thinks its a shame that there are no big firms like H and B around now.

Bob Dobson 16-10-2011 20:59

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At 101, Katex mentions a book on the Bulloughs. I have started to read it - absolutely fascinating. Highly recommended. I think the library are selling it, also the bookshop in Gt Harwood (Pam's Bookends)

katex 27-10-2011 07:16

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 939465)
.I have in my possession the original brass Howard and Bullough registered office sign which was
outside the Globe works.I did once offer it to a councellor for the Globe Centre but never heard back.

Hey, Big Dave .... as plans for a museum are now moving forward, please don't do anything with this plaque ... would make a very decent exhibit. :) Would you be prepared to let it go ?

groove 27-10-2011 07:25

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Just before they demolished the globe works, Groove and his friends went i for a nosey, as he ad always wondered what it was like, after waliknh past it for as long as he can remember.

garinda 28-10-2011 16:13

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Brief history, and some interesting links.

Howard and Bullough

garinda 28-10-2011 16:51

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and...

Spinning the Web > Overview > Search Results

janloot 05-12-2011 19:00

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i remember the metal checks to clock in and out they was brass, coin sized old penny size, with a hole in the middle where you put them on a board with spikes on it,i think i was there about 1968 -1972 but for the life in me i cant remember any names from there, mind you i was on nights, at that time it was the best wages in accy,

Pudwoppa 05-12-2011 23:55

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Here's a pic of some of the the sign in checks.

cashman 06-12-2011 07:11

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Originally Posted by Pudwoppa (Post 954256)
Here's a pic of some of the the sign in checks.

Never thought i'd see those again,nice one.:)

Big Dave 06-12-2011 09:30

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Hi Katex sorry for the delay.Yes I still have it(Bulloughs reg office sign) and would be happy to see it displayed somwhere. 01254 391167 if the museum ever wants it.Dave

Retlaw 06-12-2011 12:34

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Originally Posted by Pudwoppa (Post 954256)
Here's a pic of some of the the sign in checks.

Lang Bridges checks were the same size, at Langs you had 4 checks.
No 1 was for the morning clock in
No 2 was for the afternoon
No 3 was handed in when you clocked off from overtime.
No 4 you handed over when you recieved your pay.

Bulloughs only used 3 checks.
Retlaw

Pudwoppa 06-12-2011 13:00

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So I take it the top number was the shift, and the bottom number was the employee reference? Any idea what the little sword stamp was?

I don't have any images of lang bridge checks yet; just have h&b and some stanhill ring spinning co. ones. I'll keep an eye out and share with the group as and when.

Retlaw 06-12-2011 13:57

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Originally Posted by Pudwoppa (Post 954309)
So I take it the top number was the shift, and the bottom number was the employee reference? Any idea what the little sword stamp was?

I don't have any images of lang bridge checks yet; just have h&b and some stanhill ring spinning co. ones. I'll keep an eye out and share with the group as and when.

No 3 was employee 1550's overtime check.
Haven't clue what the sword is for, never saw that on my checks when I moved to Bulloughs in 1952.
Retlaw

Mog 25-01-2012 06:02

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I didnt work at Howard & Bullough because I left school and went down the pit. Huncoat. My Dad worked there from 1954 till about 1970 ish I remember when we were kids and my dads mate got burnt to death at work. Cant think of his name. Also remember when my dad had half of his hand chopped off about 1959. This was one of the reasons he gave me for going down the pit as H&B was a dangerous place to work in. We lived in Crown street at the time.

Mog 25-01-2012 06:55

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Originally Posted by Mog (Post 965014)
I didnt work at Howard & Bullough because I left school and went down the pit. Huncoat. My Dad worked there from 1954 till about 1970 ish I remember when we were kids and my dads mate got burnt to death at work. Cant think of his name. Also remember when my dad had half of his hand chopped off about 1959. This was one of the reasons he gave me for going down the pit as H&B was a dangerous place to work in. We lived in Crown street at the time.

Forgot to mention my dads name. David Stevenson. Also my grandad Arthur Stevenson and grandma Leena Stevenson also worked there for a while. I also think one of my relations was an outfitter for the company. in the 40s. He used to travel all over the world with them. Spent some time in Russia, I think.

Bob Dobson 25-01-2012 09:17

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Maybe Mog's family were the reason why Stevenson St was named. My dad worked in the Charter St & 'Stevie' works. Seriously, I don't know why Stevenson St was so called. Or Charter St.

christine wood 25-02-2012 11:47

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My husband Colin Wood worked in the fluted roller over both Stevenson St and the Globe works he knew Mick Pettifer and remembers his father. He also knew Jim Procter and states that the apprentice School was over Stevenson Street when he went in the late fifties. The trainers were the late Arthur Lee assisted by the late Les Hindle. He also worked in the Heavy m/c shop. His foreman was Lou Abbot and Keith Irwin with Alan Pearson (used to call him big Al) his superintendant.

EmmaMyc 14-03-2014 14:03

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Hello everyone.

I am currently getting together the history of The Globe Works to be displayed in The Globe Centre and around the building. If anyone could help me out with any information or anything they have or know it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Atarah 14-03-2014 17:28

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I am from the Museum in the Arndale. we have quite a nice collection of H & B stuff.

Could I politely ask what your exhibition is going to be about?

Atarah

Chris Machaj 14-03-2014 17:29

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 939465)
I started in Jobbing(spares)stores in 1970 went 'upstairs in 1982 as a progress chaser after 'new company formed by Hollingsworth.Progressed up to purchasing manager and in 1993 60 people moved to the old OXO plant in Great Harwood.5 years later a company from Bradford bought what remained of the spares business which was by this time just 2 people one of which was me and put us in an office in Colne for 12 months and then moved us over to Bradford .After travelling over there for 5 years I retired early in December 2006 And today my former collegue still sells spare parts for Platt machinery
amongtst other textile machinery parts.I have in my possession the original brass Howard and Bullough registered office sign which was
outside the Globe works.I did once offer it to a councellor for the Globe Centre but never heard back.

Ray Tattersall? Harry Gettings?

Atarah 14-03-2014 17:37

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Ooooh, we have a brass plate belonging to H & B, don't know if its similar to the one you have though? We would LOVE to have it in our Museum in the Arndale? :-)

Big Dave 14-03-2014 17:44

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Atarah, the registered office brass plate you have is the one I spoke about in my last post,there should be a label on the back with my details on.

Big Dave 14-03-2014 17:50

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Chris,yes I know both Ray and Harry very well ,Harry was the 3rd last employee as I was the 2nd last enmployee,Ray finished when we were bought by the firm in Bradford in 2002 and 3 of us moved and travelled daily to Bradford,I retired in 2007 but the last Platt(H&B)person is still working there and selling a few spares for Platt machinery

cashman 14-03-2014 19:13

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Chris are yeh Steves brother? :)

EmmaMyc 15-03-2014 18:07

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 1097827)
I am from the Museum in the Arndale. we have quite a nice collection of H & B stuff.

Could I politely ask what your exhibition is going to be about?

Atarah

Atarah,

Its not an exhibition as such. I am trying to find out more information about the building and what it did and get more old photographs into the building. I have managed to get an old pin that was issued to the workers tonight and will be heading to the library and museum in the coming weeks.

Thanks

Atarah 15-03-2014 18:17

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 1097831)
Atarah, the registered office brass plate you have is the one I spoke about in my last post,there should be a label on the back with my details on.

Oh sorry, this one you mean?

Atarah 15-03-2014 18:23

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Originally Posted by EmmaMyc (Post 1098007)
Atarah,

Its not an exhibition as such. I am trying to find out more information about the building and what it did and get more old photographs into the building. I have managed to get an old pin that was issued to the workers tonight and will be heading to the library and museum in the coming weeks.

Looking forward to you coming down. Let me know when you might be bobbing in. :-)

Big Dave 15-03-2014 18:40

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That's the plaque Atarah, being the last 2 people left at Platts when I finished I took the plaque home from Bradford as it belongs in Accy.

Bob Dobson 15-03-2014 19:00

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Be aware of the biography of George Bullough and the family's association with Rhum. It contains good stuff on the company. You need to be speaking with John Simpson in the library

Soloman 15-10-2014 17:35

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My father worked in the tool room his name was Harry Watson, did you know him, I think he was in the Home Guard there. Might you have any pictures.

Soloman 21-10-2014 13:21

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Correction to that, he worked in the turret room, he was a machine setter. I think he was in the Home Guard there as well. Anybody got any picture's of the Home Guard?.

Soloman 22-11-2014 21:06

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Originally Posted by Trevis2 (Post 251860)
re Howard & Bullough
Bulloughs had a Home Guard unit and we guarded the Globe Works , Charter St, & Stevenson St plants,during the war at night , and Sunday we had to be on parade and go on the fireing range in the #2 moulding shop or the fireing range down around Mitton

My dad was in ' Bullough's home guard. His name was Harry Watson. Did you know him, might you have any photo's ?

Soloman 30-11-2014 15:23

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Do you remember Harry Watson? Do you have any pictures of the Home Guard?.

cashman 30-11-2014 15:29

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Originally Posted by Soloman (Post 1125105)
Do you remember Harry Watson? Do you have any pictures of the Home Guard?.

The guy aint posted fer nearly 3 years, better off sending a PM n hoping mate.;)

Soloman 30-11-2014 15:44

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Oh! damn, he was probably my last chance. Cheers.

vinny 17-12-2014 14:35

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Here is a cutting taken from a newspapers which I've come across.
William Whalley was my Dad, he died in 1968 age 53. Not a long innings as they would say in Cricket. He worked at H&B all his live, loved Cricket and Football.

landhusweg 13-03-2015 14:26

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My Grandfather Albert (Dick) Swain worked as the Manager of the moulding dept. he retired approx. 1947. He originally came from Birmingham but moved to Accrington approx. 1910 because of his knowledge of moulding cast steel.

Cheers

Philip Kenyon
Late Belfield Rd.

landhusweg 16-03-2015 17:14

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A funny Story on H&B:
It must have been 1963-64. The Landlord Ted of the Junction Inn (directly across the road from the then public baths), asked a friend and myself if we could look after the pub between 11:00 and 13:00 on Saturday, as his Daughter was getting married at the nearby St. James’s church. As we were regulars and used to working behind bars (Blockade, Black Abbey), we were only too pleased to help out.
Ted had been working on a buffet all morning and by 11:00 it was all finished ready for the wedding party and guests to arrive. He then covered the buffet with spotlessly white table cloths.
At 12:00 workers who had been working (overtime) on Saturday morning started to turn up and were ordering pints of beer. From the bar through to the private rooms one could see the spotlessly clean table clothes. All of a sudden one guy said “Oh no, what has happened to Ted, was it a heart attack?” My friend and I jumped straight on the “band wagon” and said “it was a real shame, but Ted didn’t want to disappoint his regular customers from H&B, therefore asking us to take over”. This of course was telling any lies! Everybody was the saying what a nice guy Ted was and of course how he was respected.
At about 12:45 the family then arrived back at the pub by using the side private entrance. Nobody from the bar could see this happening of course. Ted then needed to use the gent’s toilet and passed quickly across the corridor between the bar and the private living rooms. All of a sudden one of the regulars (who had noticed this) went all white and said “bloody hell I’ve just seen Ted’s ghost”!
At this stage Ted came into the bar, greeted everybody, and asked us if everything was ok and how it went. You can imagine what the workers said to my friend and myself!

Philip Kenyon
Late Belfield Rd

Bob Dobson 16-03-2015 18:57

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Nice one, Phillip. I was a regulsr in the Junction late 50s into the 60s. One night, I danced on a round 'Britannia' table and broke it. We had a whip round to pay the landlord, who I think was called Alan. We drank John Smith's 'Nips' ( strong ale) in there.

Accyexplorer 16-09-2015 16:59

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Please can someone tell me if these are the remains of Howard & Bullough clocking in tokens?

Attachment 50822

cashman 16-09-2015 20:57

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They do look like em, but dont remember if hole in em or not, its been that long.

Accyexplorer 16-09-2015 23:06

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Cheers C,they defiantly say Howard & bullough Accrington.
Do you know if they had any other types of tokens there....pay tokens etc?

Big Dave 17-09-2015 09:09

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All were the same stamped with : num1 morning check in,num2 afternoon check in,
num3 to get your wage, num4 overtime check out

cashman 17-09-2015 09:28

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 1150182)
All were the same stamped with : num1 morning check in,num2 afternoon check in,
num3 to get your wage, num4 overtime check out

Good un D, yer memorys much better n mine lol;)

Retlaw 17-09-2015 11:37

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 1150182)
All were the same stamped with : num1 morning check in,num2 afternoon check in,
num3 to get your wage, num4 overtime check out

They are as you say numbered 1-4 but 1 was morning clock in, 2 was fternoon, 3 was clock out after overtime, and 4 was for your wages. The hole in the middle was to hang it on a pot hook on your deparments board, they were returned to you during the afternoon by the shop clerk, number 4 was returned during the following mondays hand back, both Langs and Bulloughs used the same system, mu number was J10.


Big Dave 18-09-2015 12:45

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you are right retlaw, I got mixed up, my number was 624

Mog 19-09-2015 09:59

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Does the name Dick Mason ring any bells with you guys.

Big Dave 19-09-2015 10:21

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Did he work in stores in the 70's Mog ? I think I remember him.

Mog 30-09-2015 05:58

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 1150373)
Did he work in stores in the 70's Mog ? I think I remember him.

No Dave, Unfortunately he died due to very bad burns to his whole body. Maybe in the mid to late fifties. He was a mate of my Dad Dave Stevenson who also had half of his hand chopped off when a large lump of metal fell onto him about 1956 ish.

roy elliott 20-12-2015 16:19

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Originally Posted by Arthur (Post 786956)
Served my apprenticeship at Howard & Bulloughs from 69-73, worked in the milling, drilling, inspection,heavy machine shop, and ended up in the tool room. Worked on the fitting bench, but also got roped into the slotter, and planer work owing to my previous experience. There were several guys that worked in the tool room that were older than paint. The three Holden brothers, Alex Staff,Wolstenhome Penny, Jack Hargreaves, Jack Heys to name a few. had the sad news that two guys from the tool room, Alan Pearson and Charlie had passed away last year. Alan was my apprentice instructor in the training school, and also my foreman in the heavy machine shop.


I later took my voluntary redundancy in the mid seventies, and moved to Dusseldorf, Germany. Later was employed by a German company to travel internationally as a service technician. Worked in the middle east for some time, and then was asked to relocate to the USA, and got involved in the construction equipment sales business.

Bulloughs was, and will always be, a good memory for me, not just the building , but the people that worked there.

Tom Holden (Jig Boring(
John Holden (Shaping)
Alf Holden (Bench Fitter)

ragner 14-07-2017 21:02

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How old are these tokens I found one recently stamped with the number 4700

cashman 15-07-2017 08:14

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Originally Posted by ragner (Post 1197390)
How old are these tokens I found one recently stamped with the number 4700

Dunno but i had one in the 60s so must be much older than that, imho

ferret man 15-07-2017 16:30

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1197397)
Dunno but i had one in the 60s so must be much older than that, imho

Bob have you got H /B on your Cashy worked here list

cashman 15-07-2017 22:14

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Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1197451)
Bob have you got H /B on your Cashy worked here list

Heavy Machine Shop on a great big Grinder.:D

Retlaw 15-07-2017 22:35

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1197397)
Dunno but i had one in the 60s so must be much older than that, imho

Those number on bullers checks were used over an over agin as people came and went. I have bullers check numbers in my Accrington Heroes lists, of those who worked at bullers, joined up, and were then discharged back to Bullers on munitions, and were given a different set of checks, so only bullers would ever know who was who at any given time. And as with all other things, there are some real clangers, some dated as leaving before theyd even started, some dated as leaving weeks after they'd left, and were at Caernavon.

Geoffblackpool 26-05-2020 17:13

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 750269)
It was January 12th 1967, I was at that fire with the turntable ladder. It started in the drawing offices, and progressed so fast I had to resite the ladder 3 times before the fire was stopped.
A picture taken the morning after.

For those interested a picture of Bulloughs when it was part of Platts.

Retlaw

I recall the fire. My Grandma lived in one of the terraced houses on Brown Street, directly across from the factory. I visited along with my parents every week or so.
On this occasion, the morning after the fire and knowing nothing of it, we found the approach roads blocked off and had to park the car and walk. I mostly recall there was paper everywhere blowing about the streets

HeritageHound 27-07-2020 14:14

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Hi John

I'm running a heritage project in Accrington and would love to know more about your experiences at H & B. I've sent you a friend request and it would be great to hear from you.

Many thanks
Trizia

HeritageHound 27-07-2020 14:22

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Hi Geoff

I was interested in your post. I'm running a heritage project about Accrington workplaces and would like to know more about your memories of the fire. I've sent you a friend request and it would be great if you could get in touch.

thanks, Trizia

landhusweg 01-10-2020 04:17

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Hi Vinny,
Just seen this photo again and realised that (I think) the guy far right on the second row could be my uncle Bert Swain, Son of Dick Swain then Manager of the moulding shop.
Can you or someone else confirm this?
Cheers
Philip Kenyon
Late Belfield Road

Robindad 18-11-2022 17:04

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Export activity - During The Great War

In 1917 William George Drinkwater (married to my great aunt Elizabeth King) died at Kobe in Japan.

Puzzled as to how he came to be there I found that in April 1916 he travelled with another Accrington man on the ship St Paul to New York.

USA Department of Labor Manifest show that travelling together in 2nd Class are John Arthur Mitchell (age 48) and William George Drinkwater (age 52), two ‘Cotton machinery erectors’ Their passages were paid for by Messrs Talkate Co, 1 Chome, Yokohama

Fortunately J A Mitchell is in Accrington for the 1921 Census which records his employer as Howard and Bullough.

So I come to my question

Are there any company records archived in Accrington which could provide more information about these exports and the employees in 1916?

Bob Dobson 19-11-2022 09:50

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I am not aware of any such records, Robindad, either in Accrington library or in the Lan- cashire Archives in Preston. I suggest that you drop a line to the local studies librarian [email protected]

Robindad 20-11-2022 10:13

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1269596)
I am not aware of any such records, Robindad, either in Accrington library or in the Lan- cashire Archives in Preston. I suggest that you drop a line to the local studies librarian [email protected]

Thanks - will do

taddy 20-11-2022 12:56

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1269596)
I am not aware of any such records, Robindad, either in Accrington library or in the Lan- cashire Archives in Preston. I suggest that you drop a line to the local studies librarian [email protected]

I shall jot that down for myself Bob, Thanks, by the way, do you know that Sue and Dave leave the Peel Park today after 17 years, Regards, Taddy.

Bob Dobson 20-11-2022 15:17

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Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1269641)
I shall jot that down for myself Bob, Thanks, by the way, do you know that Sue and Dave leave the Peel Park today after 17 years, Regards, Taddy.

Yes I do, Taddy. I was in there on Thursday this last week. Good to know that they are training the new people, who they have known for many years.


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