Originally Posted by Trevis2

I enjoyed reading about H&B and seeing a picture , i believe some parts are still standing ,what is the globe is it a theatre , i still remember a lot of the chaps that i worked with,and can remember where they worked in the Tool Room , can anyone remember Mr Deveraue the employment manager

Originally Posted by Trevis2

I enjoyed reading about H&B and seeing a picture , i believe some parts are still standing ,what is the globe is it a theatre , i still remember a lot of the chaps that i worked with,and can remember where they worked in the Tool Room , can anyone remember Mr Deveraue the employment manager

Originally Posted by Trevis2

Hello once again and greetings from Canada
I served my apprenticeship at Howard & Bullough from 1940-1946 in the Toolroom ,
Trevis do you remember Arthur Livesey ???????

Originally Posted by Siddie (Post 259358)

Hi my name is Anthea NcKinlay (nee Ashworth) both my dad and grandad worked at Bullers my dad Albert and grandad William known as Bill. Grandad worked there for over 40 years I think he was a foreman or some kind of boss there. Dad worked there when he was around 16, 17, grandad was well known he wasn't a tall bloke he's dead now I think he retired in the 60's have you heard of them. I live in Melbourne. Australia, dad is now 80.

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 209440)

Howard & Bulloughs, Accrington formed in 1851. Partners James Bullough and John Howard. Engineering firm making machinery for the cotton industry.

James's son John joined them business in 1862 and he helped to build up the company to one of the largest employers in the Accrington area with over 2,000 workers which eventually grew to over 6,000 in its heyday. The factory, known as "Globe Works" was a huge square building covering more than 50 acres, with an open interior area like a quadrangle. It totally dominated the town. Most of the building has now been demolished but the front part remains as "The Globe Centre". There was even a link across Ormerod Street to a smaller building (now occupied by the Council as Scaitcliffe House) which was connected by overhead covered walkways.

Up to 75% of the factory's output was exported and most of the people in the town worked there, had family who worked there or knew someone who worked there. It was commonly refered to as "Bulloughs" (Poor old Mr. Howard being totally ignored)

Bulloughs also made a large amouts of munitions during WWI.

During the second world war they turned to manufacture of armaments such as bayonets, shells, gun carriages, mine sinkers, aircraft components.

After the war they returned again to machinery manufacture. However, by the late 1980s things were in decline. The company had been taken over by Platts whose logo appeared on the front of the building. American company Saco Lowell took over Platts and the firm became Platt Saco Lowell, which finally closed down in 1993.

Originally Posted by egg&chips (Post 738741)

Didn't Bullough's have a yard between Lonsdale street and the lodge? Lorries were always in and out of it next to springhill WMC

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 738861)

Are these the metal checks you are mentioning?
dont know where the photo is from, but I do have a couple of these myself anyway.

Atarah

Originally Posted by ian1 (Post 738967)

My grandad worked there Jack Wilson , i use to see him through the windows on ormerod st !!
ian

Originally Posted by AnneW (Post 748360)

My dad worked at H and B for almost 40 years - I've been racking my brains to try and remember what he told me before he died 10 years ago. He was a miller I believe and also involved in the union. I remember walking home from school and waiting for him outside an entrance on Ormerod st to walk home with him. I have this vivid memory of hundreds of men running out of the factory to get to their cars!

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 749543)

Did Bulloughs manufacture weaving looms ? . Or were they manufacturers of other types of textile equipment (spinning and winding stuff) only reason I ask is , I thought Northrop (Blackburn) were the main manufacturers of weaving looms (the 'original' Lancashire loom and later the 'automatics' ) .

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 749583)

Anyone remember the big fire at H & B? It would have been about 1969....I recall being woken up the following morning and told all the grown-ups had been out on the street (this was in Church) watching the glow in the sky.

Originally Posted by katex (Post 750299)

Gosh Retlaw .. that made a mess !!

What was the cause ?

Originally Posted by wadey (Post 737967)

Platt Saco Lowell had a large research establishment on Holcombe Road at Helmshore

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 886312)

What a gem of a photo this is! Employees of Howard and Bulloughs. Must be in the late 60's or 70's at a guess. Wonder if any of our members can recognise themselves?

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 800086)

Here is a map of the location of Howard and Bullough's factory as most of you will never have seen before. My apologies for the quality, but the plant is that which is outlined in the red:


H & B were in Pawtucket from the 1870's to the 1920's. This area was the American answer to the Lancashire cotton industry. The irony of it all was that the yanks offered bounty money to English textile engineers to go over there in the late 1700's - England was trying to keep our inventions safe and taking manufacturing ideas out of the country was regarded as treason. By the 1870's this idea had long gone and H & B - by then the world’s largest textile machinery manufacturer -came to the conclusion it would be cheaper to build out there rather than build and ship from out here. So out they went. Early globalisation from the Globe works, so to speak.

But in the 1920's it all came to an end. A somewhat further irony is that this area is where Sacro-Lowell came from, which some would argue would partially responsible for H & B's final demise.

One final little gem, though. H & B took with them some of their English corporate philosophy, which included the creation of a works football team. "Soccer" was at the time, relatively strong in the USA - there had been massive European immigration throughout the latter part of the nineteenth century and the gridiron game was still relatively novel. So much so that the American football Association was directly affiliated to the English FA. They even had their own version of the FA Cup....the American Cup (not to be confused with the America's cup).

...And guess which team won it in 1913? Yep, Howard and Bulloughs!

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 209440)

Howard & Bulloughs, Accrington formed in 1851. Partners James Bullough and John Howard. Engineering firm making machinery for the cotton industry.

James's son John joined them business in 1862 and he helped to build up the company to one of the largest employers in the Accrington area with over 2,000 workers which eventually grew to over 6,000 in its heyday. The factory, known as "Globe Works" was a huge square building covering more than 50 acres, with an open interior area like a quadrangle. It totally dominated the town. Most of the building has now been demolished but the front part remains as "The Globe Centre". There was even a link across Ormerod Street to a smaller building (now occupied by the Council as Scaitcliffe House) which was connected by overhead covered walkways.

Up to 75% of the factory's output was exported and most of the people in the town worked there, had family who worked there or knew someone who worked there. It was commonly refered to as "Bulloughs" (Poor old Mr. Howard being totally ignored)

During the second world war they turned to manufacture of armaments such as bayonets, shells, gun carriages, mine sinkers, aircraft components.

After the war they returned again to machinery manufacture. However, by the late 1980s things were in decline. The company had been taken over by Platts whose logo appeared on the front of the building. American company Saco Lowell took over Platts and the firm became Platt Saco Lowell, which finally closed down in 1993.

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 886450)

I think the people who were in Accrington when Howard and Bulloughs were in there prime, forget just how HUGE the company was. I took this photo last night with my digital camera, off the original. Not brilliant, but better than nothing.

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 886459)

This posting was from Nov 2005 by WillowTheWhisp. Just seemed a nice bit of info for new members to read in connection with my last photo.

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 886449)

That has answered a question of mine, why so many men came over from Pawtucket, and enlisted in Accrington, into the British Army, one or two even served Pals.
Those that survived were given paid passage back to America.
Retlaw./

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 886766)

You may wonder, Walter, where I first picked up on the Pawtucket connection.

About 10 years ago, I was propping up a bar in London on a hot summer afternoon when an elderly, obviously Yank, tourist wondered in and ordered a pint of lager.

I asked him if this was this first time in London and when he replied in the affirmative, I informed him that lager in England was only drunk by women, children, gays and dogs and as he did not appear to fall into any of those categories, he may wish to consider revising his choice of beveredge. Which he promptly did.

Anyway, we got talking and after a while he seemed to recognise my accent; he asked, and I told him Accy, and he told me his grandad had emigrated from Accrington in the late 1890's to work for H & B in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. However, he was not one of those who returned to the town.

I asked the old gentlemen if he had any plans to visit Accy but he said no, as him & his mrs were off to Paris the next day. Accy would have been better, I replied and stated that no true Accy man would let his mrs make such a decision, but it was to no avail.

I didn't get his name.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 886770)

From Accrington?

Trying to impress, and appear cosmopolitan?

You're from Church.

Take the shame.

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 886774)

Aye. I always say Accy when I meet tourists in the smoke. I tell 'em all about the marvellous Market Hall and the Victorian Arcade, a shopping experiance to rival that of Paris, Milan or NY.

After all, it's Accy that needs the visitors, not Church.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 886775)

Church born, Church bred.


;)

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 886776)

Hard as nails

Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 887209)

So many of us Accringtonians will also have "family" - maybe even family they have no contact with (because they dont know of their existence!) - who are living abroad,

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 886539)

My dad and grandad both worked there , my dad served his time as an electrician and my grandad worked in the grinding shop his name was Wilson yates and my dad is Bryan yates.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 887300)

Just seen this walkingman, yer dad wasn't brought up on "Maudsley St" was he?;)

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 888177)

Yes he was cashy thats right they moved from there when my grandad got a job working for the ncb. They lived in High brake house then it was the offices for Huncoat pit.I take it you knew my old man then?

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 888178)

Yep used to go down to house, was on block before me nans going up, on left hand side, me nans was on right, block below St.Johns, was only young, but remember yer old man was a very nice bloke.;)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 888183)

dunno mate may well do, glad to hear hes still batting, cant even remember why used to go down.:confused: about 50 yrs ago, but yer always remember folk yeh liked.;) so thats why i remember him.

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 888187)

Probably me grans baking:D, its a small world isnt it.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 888188)

Think yeh might of nailed there, she was a friend of me nans i seem to recall.:)

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 888190)

What was her name i will ask me dad if he remembers her?

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 888191)

Molly n Grandad was Reg.;) lived at 58.