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Tinkerbelle 29-06-2006 20:09

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They've taken the maps down at Ossy Mills for an Accrington Pals display.

katex 04-07-2006 18:00

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They've taken the maps down at Ossy Mills for an Accrington Pals display.

Hi Tinks, seems the maps display was organised by the Civic Society and is stored temporarily at Ossie Mills; the Pals was done by the company itself. Will be coming down soon and maybe the maps going up again.

Can probably get you photos of these maps from our Marketing if you are still interested.

Tinkerbelle 04-07-2006 21:20

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Can probably get you photos of these maps from our Marketing if you are still interested.

Owww, Hi Kate, yeah that would be brill if you could please :)

Bagpuss 09-07-2006 21:37

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It's gone very quiet on this subject, did anyone go to the library?

Tinkerbelle 09-07-2006 21:52

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It's gone very quiet on this subject, did anyone go to the library?

No :( I admit I forgot! Sorry ..... I will try to get my butt in gear beginning of this week.

Any news on how to get some pics Kate?

katex 09-07-2006 22:18

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No :( I admit I forgot! Sorry ..... I will try to get my butt in gear beginning of this week.

Any news on how to get some pics Kate?

Ok .. here is the tale.

Went to Chairman, says, "Yes Marketing has images on a DVD, ask them" Gave me a run-down of the history of the stream, etc. Confirmed everything you have said.

I proceed to ask Manager in marketing,"Have you got maps on DVD?" " No.. but will ask Director of Ossy Mills, when he gets back from business trip, where they are and get shots for you"

Gets back to me nobody knows where they stored them, but belong to civic society,"here is E-mail address of Civic Society Chairman" duly notes this.

Goes back to Chairman, explains what has happened,"Do you know where said maps are?" "Yes" quotes he "In the old showroom next to you". "But says I, our Marketing Department says does not have these on DVD". "Are you sure?" says Chairman, did ask for it to be done, anyway, they are going back in three weeks time".

In the meantime, searches dismantled showroom, but lights not working properly and can't find the bloody things !!

Chairman comes to me on Friday asks if I have got them. "No" I reply in disappointed manner. He notes my crestfallen expression and says : "I think young Sarah has these on computer,but she is on holiday, ask her when she gets back from holiday !!"

Think tomorrow, so I will carry on with this quest.

Will post next episode tomorrow. ... :confused:

Tinkerbelle 09-07-2006 22:32

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:eek: Bloomin heck Kate ...... all that trouble!! Cheers though :)

katex 10-07-2006 17:42

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Chapter ll .. well, young lady back from holiday and seems they did attempt photographs of the maps, but are laminated and the reflection distorted the image to the camera, also too large for them to scan.

So .. will E-Mail Mike Booth (have left address on pad at work and didn't get time today). Was history teacher at Rhyddings. Seems he has written books on Oswaldtwistle that can be obtained, so feel might get directed to said books. Will give it a go anyway. x

Bagpuss 10-07-2006 21:06

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Went to Chairman, says, "Yes Marketing has images on a DVD, ask them" Gave me a run-down of the history of the stream, etc. Confirmed everything you have said.

Confirmed everything who said?
Tinks? Me? Doug?
I've never believed any marketing person they do tend to bend the truth. So the bottom line is we still don't know the answer for now.

katex 10-07-2006 21:40

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Must admit Bagpuss, have got a little lost in this thread, just trying to find the maps that's all for yer'. Just that Hilden Group chairman has a lot of knowledge with regard to streams in Ossy, etc., as probably owned most of them in the past, and confirmed where it started etc. Did glaze over a little when he was telling me the history of it all, but what is the ultimate answer you are looking for .. sorry, know probably being a little thick here. :rolleyes:

katex 12-07-2006 21:18

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Well, 'spect you all bored by my hunt by now, however, E-mailed Civic Society, no reply as yet . possibly on holiday BUT .. have found the maps, ironically 10 yards in front of me behind a division wall. Let me know what you want me to look at and will do.

Tinkerbelle: sure if you wished to come and look, they wouldn't mind.

Bagpuss 12-07-2006 21:23

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If you go back to the first post we are trying to find out the name of a stretch of water. We want to know if it has one name from Jacobs Lodge to the River Hyndburn or if it splits and then there would possibly be two names.

katex 12-07-2006 21:31

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If you go back to the first post we are trying to find out the name of a stretch of water. We want to know if it has one name from Jacobs Lodge to the River Hyndburn or if it splits and then there would possibly be two names.

Oh, sorry, thought that you had solved it though .. Antley Syke ? Hey, not easy these streams are they ? Ok... will concentrate more sir :D

Bagpuss 12-07-2006 21:39

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Oh, sorry, thought that you had solved it though .. Antley Syke ?

Me and Doug don't agree with that name although we have yet to come up with anything else yet, Tinkerbelle's source came up with Antley Syke but we don't think that is the name for the whole length of the stream.

Tinkerbelle 12-07-2006 21:50

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Tinkerbelle: sure if you wished to come and look, they wouldn't mind.

Sorry Katex I'd missed that bit.

I'm going to try and grab my sidekick tomorrow and have a look in to Ossy Mills. Were do I go?

I'm asking here instead of a private message incase any one else wants to have a look.

katex 12-07-2006 21:56

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Sorry Katex I'd missed that bit.

I'm going to try and grab my sidekick tomorrow and have a look in to Ossy Mills. Were do I go?

I'm asking here instead of a private message incase any one else wants to have a look.

Well, I think I could bring down to reception at lunch time what you wish to see, sure they won't mind. Are actually not at Ossie Mills, at Clifton .. 'ya know the red brick building past the gardens at the back.

I will obviously have to get permission first .. sure will be OK .. anyway I can get in touch with you in the morning? Would have to be my lunch time 12.30 >>1.30 which I would gladly sacrifice to meet yerself.

Tinkerbelle 12-07-2006 22:00

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Well, I think I could bring down to reception at lunch time what you wish to see, sure they won't mind. Are actually not at Ossie Mills, at Clifton .. 'ya know the red brick building past the gardens at the back.

I will obviously have to get permission first .. sure will be OK .. anyway I can get in touch with you in the morning? Would have to be my lunch time 12.30 >>1.30 which I would gladly sacrifice to meet yerself.

Your a diamond! :) I'll be there 12.30 on the dot. Cliftons Reception.

Doug 12-07-2006 22:16

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Well done Kate. :)

I’ll pick up a few interested individuals on the way over, we can all have lunch on Tinks..:D :D :D

As a great man once said, "Antley Syke my A***" :engsmil:

Tinkerbelle 12-07-2006 22:21

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Well done Kate. :)

I’ll pick up a few interested individuals on the way over, we can all have lunch on Tinks..:D :D :D

As a great man once said, "Antley Syke my A***" :engsmil:

As this great woman once said ........ Doug I'm gonna kick your a***! :D

Doug 12-07-2006 22:27

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As this great woman once said ........ Doug I'm gonna kick your a***! :D

Do I look bothered........:D

Is that way you always run and hide when I drive up your end. :D :D :D

You fairy..:)

Tinkerbelle 12-07-2006 22:36

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Never seen you up here yet? I'm hoping Garindas description of you are correct though, I'd hate to mistaken you for just another common garden gnome. :D :D :D

garinda 12-07-2006 23:34

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They might try and exhibit Tinks in the Time Tunnel exhibition....as one of the little fluffers of times gone by.;)

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 13:12

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Originally Posted by Doug
I’ll pick up a few interested individuals on the way over, we can all have lunch on Tinks..:D :D :D

As a great man once said, "Antley Syke my A***" :engsmil:

Well Dougie dear where were you? I was going to let you buy our liquid lunch when you realised I was correct :D

Many thanks to Katex and her colleagues for allowing us to have a look at this display. It really is a fantastic display and when it goes back up in Ossy Mills I recommend anyone with even the slightest bit of interest in local history, to go along and take a look.

Heres the pics :

:D Bagpuss and Dougie you will now bow at the feet of me ... the knowledgable one!

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 13:23

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Right I think the pics work after many tears of trying to resize them !!

accymel 13-07-2006 15:34

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Yeh you 2 ...Doug & Bagpuss :p i can definately say as i went with Tinks to see these maps & what Tinks says is legit, thanks Katex & her collegues for letting us take up their time to view them & for their hospitality:D

Ps like your sence of humour too we got such a welcome in reception pmsl!!!

garinda 13-07-2006 17:35

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She's wrote Antley Skye on that map with a biro this afternoon!!!!:D

Only joking, well done.:)

I remember looking at the same charts. They also had one which showed a prehistoric burial mound which is still visible on the horizon line of Ossy moors, if I remember correctly.

mthead 13-07-2006 17:39

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She's wrote Antley Skye on that map with a biro this afternoon!!!!:D

Only joking, well done.:)

I remember looking at the same charts. They also had one which showed a prehistoric burial mound which is still visible on the horizon line of Ossy moors, if I remember correctly.

Yeah,we saw that one Gary.They had some with some stone circles marked out to dating back to the 'Bronze Age'

katex 13-07-2006 17:49

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Originally Posted by garinda
She's wrote Antley Skye on that map with a biro this afternoon!!!!:D

Only joking, well done.:)

Can verify you would be joking, the excitement from these three when they found the name was mind boggling.

Loved every minute of this lunch hour in lovely company. Awakened my interest here, and will back back in the morning to give this display a good going over.

Thanks to Peter Hargreaves for getting them out for us and I loved the fact he loaned me the 130 year old key, with original Jacob's Lodge tag still attached for the sluice gates they put there to control the water flow.

Bagpuss 13-07-2006 20:15

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Originally Posted by garinda
She's wrote Antley Skye on that map with a biro this afternoon!!!!:D

That did cross my mind the first time I saw it.

I have to say even though you have found the name I am still far from being convinced that Antley Syke ran from Jacobs Lodge all the way to Hyndburn Rd. I will study your maps and see if I agree but I guess it's up to me now to prove you wrong.

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 20:19

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That did cross my mind the first time I saw it.

Now that's not very nice is it!! :rolleyes:

These are work done by the Ossy Civic Society and are covered in plastic. I couldn't alter them even if I had wanted to ..... which I didn't need to do cus I'm right, your wrong nah nah ner ner :p

Bagpuss 13-07-2006 20:20

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Bagpuss and Dougie you will now bow at the feet of me ... the knowledgable one!

Wait a minute you did not know the answer when Tom asked you in the first place.

accymel 13-07-2006 20:23

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Now that's not very nice is it!! :rolleyes:

These are work done by the Ossy Civic Society and are covered in plastic. I couldn't alter them even if I had wanted to ..... which I didn't need to do cus I'm right, your wrong nah nah ner ner :p

And theres plenty of witnesses to verify that its in original entirity:D

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 20:24

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Wait a minute you did not know the answer when Tom asked you in the first place.

Oh ok lol! Well we'll all bow at Toms feet because he is the knowledgeable one ;)

Bagpuss 13-07-2006 20:36

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It's a stupid name anyway nah nah ner ner.

I'II be back !!!

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 20:39

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Right, I have this little theory.

You said Bagpuss that you think it's Springhil Clough, is the clough not just the wooded or areas with trees there and the Syke is the stream? I noticed a number of different Sykes and Cloughs on these maps today.

Does that make sense? What I'm trying to say is that we are actually both right ...... Springhill Clough is the wooded area that Antley Syke stream runs through.

Doug 13-07-2006 20:51

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I concede with good grace. (Not happy, you bloody fairy) I stand by the fact that I have peed in the thing on many, many occasions and never once called it or knew it by the name of Antley Syke.

Kate, darling, sweet angle of womanhood. Could you find out for me if there are any full scans or copies of the maps in question? I would love to be able to look over them at my leisure. Good work Kate.

Nice to see that some old place names, details, and farmsteads have survived the passage of time.

Doug 13-07-2006 20:53

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Right, I have this little theory.

You said Bagpuss that you think it's Springhil Clough, is the clough not just the wooded or areas with trees there and the Syke is the stream? I noticed a number of different Sykes and Cloughs on these maps today.

Does that make sense? What I'm trying to say is that we are actually both right ...... Springhill Clough is the wooded area that Antley Syke stream runs through.

Clough - a ravine or the sloping side of a ravine.

Bagpuss 13-07-2006 20:56

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That's very good of you but it's begining to look as though I am wrong. What we knew as Springhill Clough will always be that as it was a name we made up, I doubt you would find that on any map. I really did think that Antley Syke began somewhere near Ossy Mills and from there to Jacobs Lodge had a different name.

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 20:57

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I would love to be able to look over them at my leisure.

............. :D

They are really interesting Doug I could have spent all day looking at them but it was Katex's dinner hour which she kindly gave up for us.

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 20:58

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Clough - a ravine or the sloping side of a ravine.

Right, so is a Syke a Lancashire term for a stream do you think?

Doug 13-07-2006 21:44

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Right, so is a Syke a Lancashire term for a stream do you think?

Syke – A made up name for a stream that runs through Ossy…..:D :D

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 21:52

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Syke – A made up name for a stream that runs through Ossy…..:D :D

:up2someth Oh you really are asking for it!!

There was more than one syke on these maps. Another that I remember was called Wight Syke (I think). You'll eat your words when you see the maps for yourself ;)

katex 13-07-2006 21:55

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[QUOTE=Doug]

Kate, darling, sweet angle of womanhood. Could you find out for me if there are any full scans or copies of the maps in question? I would love to be able to look over them at my leisure. Good work Kate.

QUOTE]

You such a Lothario you, say owt to get what you want :D

As mentioned I have mailed the Chairman of Civic Society, but he hasn't got back to me yet. Hoping he did something before they put the plastic over.

accymel 13-07-2006 21:56

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Think it was Walkden Syke [??] anyways look on the last photo in Tinks attachments further up you can see another syke thats the one we're on about too.

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 22:03

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Ps like your sence of humour too we got such a welcome in reception pmsl!!!

HE HE HE !! Totally agree :D

(P.S. Thanks for sorting the pic Mel. One more pic problem today and I think I would have been in the psychiatric ward tonight ;))

accymel 13-07-2006 22:07

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HE HE HE !! Totally agree :D

(P.S. Thanks for sorting the pic Mel. One more pic problem today and I think I would have been in the psychiatric ward tonight ;))

PMSL!!!! no probs :D

Least everyone can see the welcome we got hehehehe:D:D

Doug 13-07-2006 22:07

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Lothario – I just looked that up….:eek: :eek: :eek:

I protest my lady. :o :o :o


Walkden Syke, I know that one and I’ve pee’d in that one an all. :) Use to go Stickle back fishing for bate. :)

Bagpuss 13-07-2006 22:10

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Looking at the maps I think Antley Syke as it is commonly known on accyweb does not start at Jacobs lodge.

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 22:14

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Looking at the maps I think Antley Syke as it is commonly known on accyweb does not start at Jacobs lodge.

Where does it start then?

Bagpuss 13-07-2006 22:25

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Where does it start then?

Who cares what next can we argue about and then investigate?

Tinkerbelle 13-07-2006 22:28

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Who cares what next can we argue about and then investigate?

lol!! I'll have a think and get back to you. :D


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