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Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 15:04

Name the stream
 
:) Now then, I've just been chatting with mtheads dad about local places. He asked if I knew the name of the stream that roughly seperates Ossy from Accrington until it reaches Church.

It roughly runs from Jacob's Lodge, under the Bridge on High Street, down Pendleton Avenue, at the back of St Marys school then Moscow Mill street. It eventually joins the River Hyndburn, we think.

Let's see who get's the right answer first ;)

Doug 26-06-2006 15:11

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:) Are you referring to the Tinker Brook, Tinks? Are is that too obvious :D

You little Tinker :)

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Are you referring to the Tinker Brook, Tinks? Are is that too obvious

No it's not Tinker Brook Doug. I said that :D

Apparently you can only find it's name on really old maps.

Doug 26-06-2006 15:17

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Yes, I can see that now you misleading little fairy…..

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 15:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Yes, I can see that now you misleading little fairy…..

I'm quite impressed that you don't know this. :D I did say "if anyone will know the answer it will be Dougie" ;)

I will tell you in a couple of days if no-one gets it correct. :)

Doug 26-06-2006 15:26

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Was it the one that followed the line of Coal Pit Lane?

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 15:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Was it the one that followed the line of Coal Pit Lane?

Yep ......... :D

Doug 26-06-2006 15:36

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Alright, Cocker.....?

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 15:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Alright, Cocker.....?

Noooo ........ :D

Doug 26-06-2006 15:41

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Jackhouse is the only other one I can remember but I think that runs from the Cocker?

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Jackhouse is the only other one I can remember but I think that runs from the Cocker?

It's not Jackhouse either.

I'm enjoying this lol!!!! :D

Doug 26-06-2006 16:01

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Hang on Fairy Lady. Is it a Brook or a Clough?

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Hang on Fairy Lady. Is it a Brook or a Clough?

Neither Brook nor Clough in it's name. :D

garinda 26-06-2006 16:13

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I don't know it's name but my brother's garden is the first one it flows through.

Gayle 26-06-2006 16:15

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I think there's a stream around here called either Simpsons or Springfield isn't there?

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 16:17

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Give your brother a ring and ask him Rind, see if he know's ;)

No Gayle neither of those :D

Tealeaf 26-06-2006 16:20

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I'm bugg**ed if I know the name, but the route of the stream, roughly working backwards is as follows:

You can see where it emerges and joins the Stink by standing in the middle of the bridge over the Stink at Church, and looking towards the Sports centre entrance. If you then look down, you'll see the water coming out the side of the bank.

It is then along, to the back of the Bridge pub and then it goes underneath the Sacred Heart school. You can see quite clearly the dip in Tanpits road where the stream once made out a shallow valley. It then goes underneath the old Fraser Eagle coach garage and underneath Blackburn Road between the Snooker Hall & the Oaktree pub.

It is of, course, the eastern boundary between Church & Accy (the sign is there saying "Accy" and of course that is why the Oak Tree pub is so called (Accy being the place where Acorns grew...hence Oak Tree)

Church's western boundary with Ossy, is of course the Tinker, and on leaving Church along Blackburn Road, you can see the Ossy sign right above where the river goes underneath the road.

However, back to the Eastern stream...it was the daming of this that resulted in the reservoir on the Church/Accy/Ossy border, which was susequentlt divided in two by the railway. The new estate lies right on top...go further back, and it goes alongside Ossy Mills.

Changes in drainage in the mid-19th century, around Springhill & northern Ossy means that the stream collects only a tiny amount of waterflow.

I still don't know the name, though.

garinda 26-06-2006 16:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Give your brother a ring and ask him Rind, see if he know's ;)

No Gayle neither of those :D

He doesn't know even though he's built a bridge over it and the kids dam it.

It must have a name.:confused:

Doug 26-06-2006 16:25

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I can’t think of any others in the area. I know the one you mean though. I think the Woodnook runs in to it at some point. If it’s the One I think it is It raises just below Green Howarth.

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 16:26

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The route excellently described by Mr. T is a clue to it's name. ;)

garinda 26-06-2006 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
The route excellently described by Mr. T is a clue to it's name. ;)

Is it the B*ggered then?:D

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
If it’s the One I think it is It raises just below Green Howarth.

Doug, it's the one that runs under the small bridge seperating High Street and Fern Gore.

Doug 26-06-2006 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Doug, it's the one that runs under the small bridge seperating High Street and Fern Gore.

I Know, but that's not helping my old and feeble mind...

garinda 26-06-2006 16:33

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Clough Brook?

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 16:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
Clough Brook?

lol! No.

Think more it's connection with Church. ;)

Doug 26-06-2006 16:37

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Tomknitter?

Tealeaf 26-06-2006 16:38

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It can be clearly seen on the 1829 map, but with no name:

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environ...nnet/index.htm

Its box F4, if you're stuck.

WillowTheWhisp 26-06-2006 16:41

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Well I know the one you mean but I have no idea what it's called either.

K.S.H 26-06-2006 16:43

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And I can nearly paddle in it whilst sat on my front door step and I dont know what its called either :confused:

Is it something to do with Tanpits??

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Tomknitter?

No it's not that either.

Just so everyone knows I'm not pulling your leg, I did a quick Google and it is mentioned in one bit of Council planning information.

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 16:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H
Is it something to do with Tanpits??

No but your getting warmer ;)

WillowTheWhisp 26-06-2006 16:49

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Anything to do with Antley?

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 16:51

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
Anything to do with Antley?

Yes Willow it is :D

Tealeaf 26-06-2006 17:00

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Well, I've cheated & just done a google....but to no avail. It would appear that HBC don't know the name of the stream, either; this is a planning document from last year:

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/council...=A&FILEID=8837

WillowTheWhisp 26-06-2006 17:04

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I'll stab a guess at Antley Brook

cherokee 26-06-2006 18:14

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:idunno: ohhhhh you got us all ere tinks:idunno: :idunno: :idunno: :thumbsup:

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 18:28

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Antley yes .... :D but it's not Brook, Clough, Stream or River. It begins with an 'S'. ;)

Doug 26-06-2006 18:41

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Antley Spring..............

If that's correct I'll rip your wings off......:D

accymel 26-06-2006 18:44

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or it could be Antley stream:rolleyes:

Doug 26-06-2006 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accymel
or it could be Antley stream:rolleyes:

I take it you didn't see this bit :rolleyes: :D

Quote:

It's Antley something yes, but not Brook, Clough, Stream or River. It begins with an 'S'. ;)

accymel 26-06-2006 18:48

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I was making sure it couldnt be :D

Doug 26-06-2006 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accymel
I was making sure it couldnt be :D

This is infuriating really I can remember paddling in it and I can remember peeing in it. But can’t remember what we called it. But from our end of town we didn’t call Antley anything……. :D

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 19:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
It's not Brook, Clough, Stream or River. It begins with an 'S'. ;)

Sorry Doug you can also add Spring to the others above that it isn't :D

Doug 26-06-2006 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Sorry Doug you can also add Spring to the others above that it isn't :D

You are beginning to take the spring out me Tinkerbelle le Fey. PM me the answer and I won’t tell anyone what you were doing last Saturday afternoon…… :D :D :D

K.S.H 26-06-2006 19:13

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Antley Syke?

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 19:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H
Antley Syke?

HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done K.S.H :D :D :D

K.S.H 26-06-2006 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done K.S.H :D :D :D

I cheated :)
You gave the clues saying you googled so I did the same and come up with THIS LINK

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H
I cheated :)

Cheating or not, someone had to put Dougie out of his misery :D

I have this image of him at a table with ordance survey maps and goodness knows what else strewn all over the place ;)

talentedbutslow 26-06-2006 19:23

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in Shurmers official guide of Hyndurn......it states.......Higher Antley Reservoir.......the boundary of the 2 towns Accy and Ossy.......access from newark st,accy and clayton st ,ossy......

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by talentedbutslow
in Shurmers official guide of Hyndurn......it states.......Higher Antley Reservoir.......the boundary of the 2 towns Accy and Ossy.......access from newark st,accy and clayton st ,ossy......

You've lost me there Tal?

The reservoir is no longer there btw it's a housing estate now :)

cherokee 26-06-2006 19:28

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:Banane13: :Banane13: :Banane13: :Banane13: well done k.s.h

Doug 26-06-2006 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Cheating or not, someone had to put Dougie out of his misery :D

I have this image of him at a table with ordance survey maps and goodness knows what else strewn all over the place ;)

Antley Syke? Never heard of it…..:rolleyes:

Nice one KSH…..:)


Tinkerbelle. I’ve looked at several maps this afternoon and resorted to opening a nice bottle of Nottage Hill “Gold Medal” That means you own me £6.49. :D

Tinkerbelle 26-06-2006 19:47

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Originally Posted by Doug

Tinkerbelle. I’ve looked at several maps this afternoon and resorted to opening a nice bottle of Nottage Hill “Gold Medal” That means you own me £6.49. :D

Call it £3.25 and save me half the bottle :D

Doug 26-06-2006 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Call it £3.25 and save me half the bottle :D

Its gone!! :D :o

You can have the bottle for 2 quid if you like. You can stick a message in it and float it up your Syke :p :rolleyes: :)

WillowTheWhisp 26-06-2006 20:32

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:eek: .................................

Bagpuss 27-06-2006 20:12

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I'm still not totally happy with this name, it was always Springhill clough when I was a lad.

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
I'm still not totally happy with this name, it was always Springhill clough when I was a lad.

Tough !!! It's called Antley Syke :p :D

Bagpuss 27-06-2006 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Tough !!! It's called Antley Syke :p :D

I need more just because Ians dad says so doesn't mean he's right.

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 20:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
I need more just because Ians dad says so doesn't mean he's right.

His Dad didn't, 2 seperate maps did ;) and so do Hyndborough Council

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...k&ct=clnk&cd=1

K.S.H 27-06-2006 20:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
I need more just because Ians dad says so doesn't mean he's right.

Hyndburn Council mention it in THIS document, Hyndburn council are never wrong are they :confused:

K.S.H 27-06-2006 20:26

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Wow thats a long link Tinks :)

Bagpuss 27-06-2006 20:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H
Hyndburn Council mention it in THIS document, Hyndburn council are never wrong are they :confused:

Just read that and I was not convinced that it was the same bit of running water.

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 20:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K.S.H
Wow thats a long link Tinks :)

lol! I know it's to view it in HTML code or something :confused:

K.S.H 27-06-2006 20:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Just read that and I was not convinced that it was the same bit of running water.

Well i've never followed it myself but led to believe that it goes from Springhill down by the lodges (now gone) through Tanpits and as Tealeaf mentioned further up the post it comes out at the bridge on Dill Hall lane where it joins the river Hyndburn.

K.S.H 27-06-2006 20:33

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Just found ANOTHER LINK that mentions it, interesting read as well

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 20:59

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WOW! That is an interesting link there K.S.H. All that over a game of dice eh!

WillowTheWhisp 27-06-2006 21:05

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That link won't open for me. :(

Bagpuss 27-06-2006 21:05

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After studying all the evidence it's my impression that any running water from Moscow Mill Street is Antley Syke but from Jacobs lodge to the bottom of coal pit lane it is something else.

Doug 27-06-2006 21:08

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Just read that and I was not convinced that it was the same bit of running water.

Sorry, le fey. Bagpuss is right. Antley Syke runs out towards what was Hyndburn House. What Bagpuss identifies as Springhill Clough appears to be correct.

My source of information is the Mario site which clearly shows both systems….. :)

Doug 27-06-2006 21:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Sorry, le fey. Bagpuss is right. Antley Syke runs out towards what was Hyndburn House. What Bagpuss identifies as Springhill Clough appears to be correct.

My source of information is the Mario site which clearly shows both systems….. :)

Actually it’s the Hyndburn. :o Yes I know I’m a pillock but I sincerely believe that Bagpuss is correct. :) I just need an older map. :o

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 22:03

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I've just been following it's route on that Mario map website. It shows it clearly but no name.

I'll go and have a look at the maps tomorrow were Ian's dad saw it, if I can find them.

Bagpuss 27-06-2006 22:07

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Out of interest Tinkerbelle what did you think it was called?

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 22:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Out of interest Tinkerbelle what did you think it was called?

What do you mean Bagpuss? Before his dad said it was called Antley Syke I just thought it was part of Tinker Brook.


Right, the maps are on the walls in the Oswaldtwistle section at Ossy Mills.

Bagpuss 27-06-2006 22:14

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Sorry just read the early posts again and you did say Tinker Brook.

Doug 27-06-2006 22:38

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Ok. I can’t be sure but I think we’re still right. Springhill Clough runs out for Jacobs lodge and runs all in a straight line following Orchard Drive, Star Street crossing the corner of Tanpits on to the Hyndburn.

Now Antley Syke I believe ran a course through Lower Antley as it was and now takes a line under Lonsdale Street and India Street and on to the Hyndburn.

This of course maybe just supposition on my part but if anyone is going up to the library anytime soon I would be interested to find out if this is correct?

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
This of course maybe just supposition on my part but if anyone is going up to the library anytime soon I would be interested to find out if this is correct?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheWhoIsAlwaysRight
Right, the maps are on the walls in the Oswaldtwistle section at Ossy Mills.

What's wrong with the ones at the mills, I'll go for a look tomorrow and take some pics.

garinda 27-06-2006 22:44

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I don't think it's the Tinker Brook. That comes down from the John St. area before making it's way to the bridge on Union Road.

WillowTheWhisp 27-06-2006 22:45

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What about Antley Hall (by Bullough Park) there must surely be a connection with that due to that name.

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
What about Antley Hall (by Bullough Park) there must surely be a connection with that due to that name.

I'd forgot about that place!!!

big_guy 27-06-2006 22:48

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Is it tinker brook?

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 22:49

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Originally Posted by big_guy
Is it tinker brook?

No definately not. ;)

garinda 27-06-2006 22:56

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Go and bathe in it naked tomorrow Tinks, then we can rename it Tinky's Stream.:D


(Bathe as in wash, not as in tinkle.):D

Tinkerbelle 27-06-2006 22:58

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Originally Posted by garinda
Go and bathe in it naked tomorrow Tinks, then we can rename it Tinky's Stream.:D


(Bathe as in wash, not as in tinkle.):D

Been there done that ;) Where do you think Tinker Brook get's it's name :D

garinda 27-06-2006 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Been there done that ;) Where do you think Tinker Brook get's it's name :D


Why isn't it orange anymore?

Is it Cocker's Chemicals, or have you stopped drinking Iron Bru?:p

Doug 27-06-2006 23:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
Why isn't it orange anymore?

Is it Cocker's Chemicals, or have you stopped drinking Iron Bru?:p

Like I said rindy, we use to pee in it on a regular basis. :D

Bagpuss 28-06-2006 20:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
What's wrong with the ones at the mills, I'll go for a look tomorrow and take some pics.

Still waiting, bet you didn't go:)

Tinkerbelle 28-06-2006 20:58

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Still waiting, bet you didn't go:)

I didn't :o I had visitors all day ...... but I'll have a go at getting there tomorrow. Wish me luck ;)

Did you go?

Bagpuss 28-06-2006 21:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Did you go?

Yep, about an hour ago for a number 2. :rolleyes:

Doug 28-06-2006 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
I didn't :o I had visitors all day ...... but I'll have a go at getting there tomorrow. Wish me luck ;)

Did you go?

:) I didn’t but I’m over on Saturday for the Civic Parade. When it’s finished I’ll pop up to the Library if you haven’t managed to get your self up there Tinky. :D

Tinkerbelle 28-06-2006 21:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss
Yep, about an hour ago for a number 2. :rolleyes:

I hope you've remembered to wash your hands! ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
When it’s finished I’ll pop up to the Library if you haven’t managed to get your self up there Tinky.



Might be worth a look there too tomorrow if I get chance. :)

Neil 28-06-2006 21:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
He asked if I knew the name of the stream that roughly seperates Ossy from Accrington until it reaches Church.

Us Ossy folk wish it was called the Atlantic :D :p

Doug 28-06-2006 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Us Ossy folk wish it was called the Atlantic :D :p

:) We Accrington folk would wish you Ossy folk was in it......:D :p

Gayle 28-06-2006 21:47

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Oy, you be careful Doug, or we'll put passport control up on the M65 and you won't get back in.

Neil 28-06-2006 21:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
:) We Accrington folk would wish you Ossy folk was in it......:D :p

You're an ex-pat so must have wanted out :p

accymel 28-06-2006 22:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
:) I didn’t but I’m over on Saturday for the Civic Parade. When it’s finished I’ll pop up to the Library if you haven’t managed to get your self up there Tinky. :D

Tinks in the library:eek: :eek::eek::eek: research section :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::p:D

accymel 28-06-2006 22:07

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Is there another mission coming up:confused: :D

Tinkerbelle 28-06-2006 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accymel
Is there another mission coming up:confused: :D

Yeah, you coming?

You can show me where the library is :D

Doug 28-06-2006 22:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle
Oy, you be careful Doug, or we'll put passport control up on the M65 and you won't get back in.

No fear there Gayle, you buggers have never been that hot with immigration policy…….. :D :D :D

Doug 28-06-2006 22:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Yeah, you coming?

You can show me where the library is :D

Just head for the Bees Knees. :D Its near the place a relative of yours showed ... ........ .. ... .... :o

accymel 29-06-2006 16:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Just head for the Bees Knees. :D Its near the place a relative of yours showed ... ........ .. ... .... :o

do u mean the kebab shop:confused::D


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