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julia 14-10-2006 00:14

culvert street
 
Hi Just wondered if anybody knows were culvert street was located in accrington probably about 1900

julia

Retlaw 14-10-2006 22:55

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Yes it ran from Manchester road to Grange Lane, it is still there part under the Fire Station tower in Manchester Rd. the properties were not totally demolished, just enough to bring them down to 3 feet below the Fire Station yard, holes were made in them for the concrete pillars that support the fire station tower. By the way there was another street under the fire station yard, known as Brook St.
Walter

earthdog 27-01-2010 18:53

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Thanks Walter, that's very useful information. I'll see if I can find it on old maps now I know where I'm looking. My wife's g-g-grandmother was apparently living there (No 1) at the time of the 1861 census.

Alan

Retlaw 27-01-2010 20:00

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Originally Posted by earthdog (Post 782909)
Thanks Walter, that's very useful information. I'll see if I can find it on old maps now I know where I'm looking. My wife's g-g-grandmother was apparently living there (No 1) at the time of the 1861 census.

Alan

Bloomin Eck this threads over 4 years old.
This was Culvert St looking from Grange Lane, to Manchester Rd.

Retlaw.

earthdog 27-01-2010 20:03

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Well that's even better, ta very much. Looks quite nice doesn't it? I love all the names, dates and places in ancestry research, but photos really bring it all to life. Thanks again.

Alan

Atarah 27-01-2010 20:22

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Hi - what was your relatives surname? You never know, some of us may know something about her, you just never know! :-)

Bob Dobson 27-01-2010 20:31

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Atarah - this person is posting from Windsor - is it possible that we have Royalty members who come from Accrington. I hope the answer is summat common like Hindle.

earthdog 27-01-2010 21:18

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Sorry to disappoint, I don't live up at the big 'ouse, and Liz hasn't invited me for tea yet. Maybe to do with the fact that I was dragged up on a council estate in Rugby.

earthdog 27-01-2010 21:27

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 782931)
Hi - what was your relatives surname? You never know, some of us may know something about her, you just never know! :-)

This particular ancestor was Ann Jackson, though she was from Hull. She married Edward Burrow soon after the 1861 census and, as far as I know, remained in Accrington after that. Their daughter was Elizabeth Burrow and she married William Henry Woods. Their daughter was Edith Woods who married Benjamin Walter Cotter. Finally, their daughter was Mildred Cotter, my mother-in-law. There's a few names to go on with, I'd certainly be interested to hear from anyone with connections.

This is a great forum BTW, I got some help from the community a while back, see this thread:

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...y-35639-2.html

Alan

Retlaw 27-01-2010 22:39

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Benjamin Walter Cotter.

Benjamin Walter Cotter.
L/Cpl. 17831. 11th East Lancs.
Original Accrington Pal.
Wnd 01-07-1916.
Lived in Mount Pleasant St, Oswaldtwistle.

Retlaw.

earthdog 28-01-2010 07:00

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Oh thanks, yes that's him. And here he is (see attached). I've seen his listings on the Pals web site (absent voters and officers and men lists). Do you know of any other good sources of information? I suppose the obvious thing to look for would be what he was up to at the time he was wounded. Where might I go to find that do you think?

Retlaw 28-01-2010 11:12

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Originally Posted by earthdog (Post 783067)
Oh thanks, yes that's him. And here he is (see attached). I've seen his listings on the Pals web site (absent voters and officers and men lists). Do you know of any other good sources of information? I suppose the obvious thing to look for would be what he was up to at the time he was wounded. Where might I go to find that do you think?

You won't find much of any thing on that web site
and its full of mistakes, several of the Pals who fought at the battle of the Somme are missing.
And he does'nt have the true figures for the killed and wounded, just guesses, which is miles out.

Ben was wounded during the battle of the Somme
July 1st 1916.
There is an obituary for him in the paper in November 1941.

Retlaw.

earthdog 28-01-2010 11:21

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Yes, he was still quite young when he died, my mother-in-law (his daughter) was only about 15 at the time. Thanks for the pointer about the obituary, I'll see if I can get a copy. I guess the local library might hold copies or microfilms of the newspapers? I'll see what they say.

I'll get onto the relevant museums to see what information they hold.

Thanks once more for your help.

earthdog 28-01-2010 11:22

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Sorry, I only just saw the attachment. That's marvellous!

Retlaw 28-01-2010 11:31

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Originally Posted by earthdog (Post 783148)
Yes, he was still quite young when he died, my mother-in-law (his daughter) was only about 15 at the time. Thanks for the pointer about the obituary, I'll see if I can get a copy. I guess the local library might hold copies or microfilms of the newspapers? I'll see what they say.

I'll get onto the relevant museums to see what information they hold.

Thanks once more for your help.

You will only find a copy of his obit in Accy Library, your local library won't have it, the only other source could be the British Libary which is down in your area.
There is a mistake in the obit which says he enlisted in Sept 1914.
His service number wasn't issued until after Dec 8th 1914.


Retlaw.

earthdog 28-01-2010 11:36

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Yes, I meant your local library, not mine. Windsor library doesn't even have much about Windsor I tell you. I'll have a bash at the British Library then, I've got a few other things to chase up as well so I'll have a day there when I can fit it in.

How do you come to have all this information to hand, are you actively engaged in research about the Pals and the like? Whatever you're doing, it's all to my benefit I must say.

Retlaw 28-01-2010 11:55

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Originally Posted by earthdog (Post 783156)
Yes, I meant your local library, not mine. Windsor library doesn't even have much about Windsor I tell you. I'll have a bash at the British Library then, I've got a few other things to chase up as well so I'll have a day there when I can fit it in.

How do you come to have all this information to hand, are you actively engaged in research about the Pals and the like? Whatever you're doing, it's all to my benefit I must say.

I worked with Bill Turner on the Accrington Pals for over 20 years since his first book.

We then did the research again into those who served in the 11th East Lancs, spending a considerable amount of time down at Kew.

His first book is now obsolete, in that we found over 450 new names and numbers that had been missed by the original compiler of the names and numbers in Bills book.

Since Bill died I've found five more.
I also had my own project running at the same time, which was finding all the men from Greater Accrington (Hyndburn) who took the Kings shilling 14/18, so far I've got 14205 names, near 3000 pictures and over 5000 newspaper articles.

Retlaw.

earthdog 28-01-2010 12:04

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Crikey, sounds like a labour of love. I'm amazed you found what you sent to me so quickly if you have that much in your collection.

I can send you photos of a few more Pals in that case. I'll get them out tonight and send them with any details I know.

Retlaw 28-01-2010 13:08

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Originally Posted by earthdog (Post 783168)
Crikey, sounds like a labour of love. I'm amazed you found what you sent to me so quickly if you have that much in your collection.

I can send you photos of a few more Pals in that case. I'll get them out tonight and send them with any details I know.

I've turned the newspaper articles into a scrapbook, each man is idexed by name number, month and year, so every thing is at hand when I need it.
The file is so big it won't fit on a CD. Sent you an email about Benjamin.
The harrogate tripe dresser will be on here before long, seeing what he can get for nowt.

Retlaw.

cudagirl 12-11-2014 01:31

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Thanks for posting this pic. my grandmother lived at 8 Culvert Street. Frances Heagney. Her Father was Francis "Frank" Heagney and mother was Mary Jane nee' Hughes. Do I have my information right? Culvert Street was built by the Hargreaves family. Two blocks of houses at the Manchester Road end of Culvert street. And today this road does not exist, but was the first road from the corner of Manchester and Grange Lane. Can be seen on 1909/1913 map, but road is not named. ???

Atarah 12-11-2014 07:38

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Hi you have seen the photo in posting no. 4 - the top of the street would have almosed be opposite the Monkey Steps on Manc Road, which are still there of course.


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