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Jim Procter 12-11-2007 13:59

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Hi Accrington Was born in Church and used to live in Clayton but now live in Hull Yorkshire. I am 76 and I cant travel but I would love a Piccy of the place I was born.Peel Arm Cottage Dill Hall Lane. Thank you in advance to anyone who can help Jim Procter Accrington Grammar School Old Boy

MargaretR 12-11-2007 14:31

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I lived at 249 Dill Hall from 1961- 1966, and at no 60 from 1984-1991, so I have lived 'at both ends'. I do not know of any property then, or still existing, which might be described as a cottage, since that term indicates (to me) pre 1900.

We do have local history enthusiasts as members- who may know, and some who have archives of photos from the past. So - fingers crossed for you :)

cashman 12-11-2007 14:32

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whereabouts on Dill Hall would that be Jim? reason i ask is the bit that took in church hall, near Express gifts(Joseph Arnolds) was altered a bit when the dual carridgeway was built.

MargaretR 12-11-2007 14:36

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Yes Cashy - that property next to the petrol station might be it - it does look old enough
Streetmap.co.uk- search results

Doug 12-11-2007 16:12

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This is the Location.....If nobody can do it sooner I'm hoping to be over on Weds....

WillowTheWhisp 12-11-2007 17:40

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Superb map Doug. You'll probably beat me to it as I'll be in Chorley tomorrow.

Doug 12-11-2007 18:17

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 492724)
Superb map Doug. You'll probably beat me to it as I'll be in Chorley tomorrow.


It's a Mario, which reminds me they do a arial shots as well.....

cashman 12-11-2007 19:06

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nice one doug, suspected it was that area.;)

Jim Procter 13-11-2007 14:34

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When I was a little lad there were some horse stables belonging to the Council I think. They later became a Garage and Filling Station. Well Peel Arm Cottage was just behind on the lane up to the canal.Opposite was Steiners Works. My grandad was a foreman there.I hope this description helps to pin-point where it is.I understand that a road was built which came from Accrington via Hyndburn Road and Countess Street and across to Rishton. I hope that they didnt demolish the house to build the road Thank you to all who took the interest to reply.

MargaretR 13-11-2007 15:37

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The house is still there - see the 2 maps we have provided - Doug said he will be over this way on Saturday and will take a photo for you

WillowTheWhisp 13-11-2007 16:25

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The new road goes from the Dunkenhalgh to Hyndburn Road and cuts through Dill Hall Lane just past where the stables used to be which is now a petrol station.

Bonnyboy 14-11-2007 09:08

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Going of the maps the others have provided, I'm fairly confident that this is the cottage :)

Doug 14-11-2007 09:44

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Nice one Bonnyboy.............

Jim Procter 14-11-2007 13:49

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Thank you Bonneyboy. What wonderful pictures. It is just as I remember except for the Conifers and the modern windows and the garage.My father and mother and my brother and I lived in the extention at the back and my Grandma and her family had the original cottage at the front.Perhaps someone remembers the Westells and Ainsworths who lived there? I would be delighted to hear from anyone who knew them.Harper Westell died in 1937 and a kind person in Accrington sent me a copy of his Obituary from the Observer. His Grandson Clifford died recently and was I think Mayor of Accrington at one time. Does anyone remember the Clogger who had a shop down the hill near the corner of Hyndburn Road. The wonderful smell of leather which permeated the shop while you waited for new irons to be fitted to your clogs.And the sparks your new clogs made on the pavement as you ran to school.And Mister Chadwick the ice-cream man who came round on a three-wheel cycle from his shop on Countess Street.And the swings and slide in Gatty Park. I used to stand and watch the men turning the great big lathes from the doorway at Steiners opposite.And going to school at Church Kirk with Mr Greenwood the headmaster and Mrs Golding my favouite teacher.And going to Church on a Sunday at Church Kirk and singing in the choir with Rev Stephens --Mister Stiffkey was his nickname--Oh I could go on all day.
Thank you all the people of Accrington for giving me such a wonderful day.Best Wishes to you all Jim Procter

WillowTheWhisp 14-11-2007 13:51

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Did Clifford live up Manchester Road?

Margaret Pilkington 14-11-2007 14:02

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Clifford was married to Dorothy Westell, they have two daughters, Judith is one of them and the name of the other one escapes me (senior moment).

One of the girls is married to Ted Robbins(judith -I think)

WillowTheWhisp 14-11-2007 16:38

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The other one wasn't called Anne was she? Yes, I definitely remember the name Dorothy Westell. My mother used to irritate me by calling her Dorothy WestWell. The number of times I told her there wasn't a 'W 'in the middle! :rolleyes:

cashman 14-11-2007 19:10

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think it was Dorothy who was the mayoress? she had the Arcade cafe, my late missus worked for her for years. in the 80s when cliff was the mayor i think.

Margaret Pilkington 14-11-2007 19:55

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No the other daughter is called Alison and she lives in Cornwall somewhere.

katex 14-11-2007 19:59

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 493560)
Clifford was married to Dorothy Westell, they have two daughters, Judith is one of them and the name of the other one escapes me (senior moment).

One of the girls is married to Ted Robbins(judith -I think)

Dorothy lives just a few doors from me (now one of those councillors on the Lancs CC, or whatever). Knew Clifford and Judith (was a dancer in our Amateur shows .. beautiful girl). Yes, is Judith that is married to Ted Robbins. If you wish me to collect any information from them, sure they will be happy to oblige.

Sorry can't help you with your other memories Jim .. Church was not my area.. hey, so glad that Bonnyboy obtained those pictures for you .. must have been very nostalgic .. x

cashman 14-11-2007 20:47

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just an afterthought jim, when Cliff was the mayor, they lived up Riley Hill if i'm not mistaken.:)

katex 14-11-2007 20:49

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 493687)
just an afterthought jim, when Cliff was the mayor, they lived up Riley Hill if i'm not mistaken.:)

Dorothy's other daughter is called Alison by the way.

WillowTheWhisp 14-11-2007 21:34

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I was close - I knew it began with an 'a'.

junetta 14-11-2007 22:59

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I've really enjoyed this thread, Jim, and I'm so glad that Bonnyboy took the time to take the pictures for you.

My Nana was born in Steiner View and it made me wonder if you knew my mother, Millicent Hamer, as she would have been of a similar age to you had she lived.

Just a thought x

Bonnyboy 15-11-2007 00:33

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Glad it was the right house Jim, the pics aren't all that brill but it was early :) hope you enjoyed them ;)

cherokee 15-11-2007 00:51

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Originally Posted by Jim Procter (Post 493551)
Thank you Bonneyboy. What wonderful pictures. It is just as I remember except for the Conifers and the modern windows and the garage.My father and mother and my brother and I lived in the extention at the back and my Grandma and her family had the original cottage at the front.Perhaps someone remembers the Westells and Ainsworths who lived there? I would be delighted to hear from anyone who knew them.Harper Westell died in 1937 and a kind person in Accrington sent me a copy of his Obituary from the Observer. His Grandson Clifford died recently and was I think Mayor of Accrington at one time. Does anyone remember the Clogger who had a shop down the hill near the corner of Hyndburn Road. The wonderful smell of leather which permeated the shop while you waited for new irons to be fitted to your clogs.And the sparks your new clogs made on the pavement as you ran to school.And Mister Chadwick the ice-cream man who came round on a three-wheel cycle from his shop on Countess Street.And the swings and slide in Gatty Park. I used to stand and watch the men turning the great big lathes from the doorway at Steiners opposite.And going to school at Church Kirk with Mr Greenwood the headmaster and Mrs Golding my favouite teacher.And going to Church on a Sunday at Church Kirk and singing in the choir with Rev Stephens --Mister Stiffkey was his nickname--Oh I could go on all day.
Thank you all the people of Accrington for giving me such a wonderful day.Best Wishes to you all Jim Procter



WOW What a wonderful look back on your life . ( brought tears to my eyes ) JIM how wonderful that bonnyboy could bring you those pics and what a discription of your days gone by .. Im so glad you came on this site and found what you were looking for . truly amazing and truly deserved .. keep your memories close to your heart :)

Jim Procter 17-11-2007 14:46

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Hi Everyone,

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This photo of children was taken in the garden of Peel Arm Cottage in 1936. Clifford Westell is back centre. My cousin Joan who still lives in Great Harwood is back right. I am in front centre and my brother Bryan is front left.He died in 1983. Who are the other 2 Children?

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This photo is of the wedding of my Grandma Sarah Alice Iddon nee Ainsworth and Harper Westell the Grandfather of Clifford To the right are my parents James Procter and Margaret Ainsworth . To the left is my paternal Grandfather James Procter of Rishton.

Yes Junetta I do very vaguely remember Millicent Hamer. I think she was in my class at Church Kirk.There was also in my class Billy Gamson Joan Hitchen and 2 lads called Boothman and Wadsworth who lived at the top of Dill Hall Lane, Another lad called Holden whose parents had a shop opposite the school and someone called Barth who lived on the street at the bottom of the school.
As anyone got a piccy of Church Kirk School. I know it is long since demolished but someone may have a copy.

Thanks Jim.:)

andy westell 20-01-2009 11:48

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Hi My Grandad Harper Westell Lived On Riley Hill Two Doors Down From Cliff And I Think He Passed Away In 1981/82.my Grandmothers Name Is Mary Westell.


Andy Westell

Retlaw 20-01-2009 18:14

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 493687)
just an afterthought jim, when Cliff was the mayor, they lived up Riley Hill if i'm not mistaken.:)

Your right Cashy, they did live in one of those cottages up Rileys Hill.

As for the spelling of their name Westell, Westwell & Westall,
they all stir there tea up with the same spoon, just like Whittaker & Whitaker, Cornwell & Cornwall, etc, cloth eared parish clerks caused the problem with name spelling, back in the1700's very few of the parishoners could read or write, so they would'nt know what the god botherer had written.
Jack Broderick, in his work on the parish registers, traced a lot of the names back to their original spellings.

Retlaw.

MargaretR 20-01-2009 18:27

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I worked alongside Jack Broderick when I started work at Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance in 1959. He was a meticulously smartly dressed batchelor who caused a sensation when he announced he was getting married in his 'middle age'.
A perfect gent if ever there was one :)

andy westell 21-01-2009 05:53

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Hi Jim ,Did you know Harper and Mary Westell? I do not live in the UK, My mother and father are from Accorington. They emigrated to Australia in the late 50s. I was born in Australia I am now 45.

Retlaw 21-01-2009 13:47

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 670992)
I worked alongside Jack Broderick when I started work at Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance in 1959. He was a meticulously smartly dressed batchelor who caused a sensation when he announced he was getting married in his 'middle age'.
A perfect gent if ever there was one :)

Your right Margaret a perfect Gent, we worked on a few historical projects together, sadly he died few months back. His sight deteriated in the last two years of his life, we met up quite a few times in the library, he was still researching, I used to read some of the documents for him, or make them bigger on the photocopier so he could read them himself. Jacks wife still lives in Rishton.

Retlaw

groove 21-01-2009 15:25

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were do u mean by rileys hill?always called the hill between bullough pk n highfield house rileys hill myself,is that were u mean cos the only cottages i can think of r rose place in the park?thanks

George Walker 21-01-2009 16:36

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Do you remember Alan Hindle, Derek Omara,Jannie Lane,Edna Kenyon.
The Barth was called Birtwistle,and the Holden was Jimmy.
Barth Bertwistle lived on York St, Jimmy Holden's parents had a grocers shop.
Alan Hindle was a butcher later to become a director of Slingers.I think his son
has a meat stall in the market hall.

George Walker 21-01-2009 16:49

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The petrol station you mentioned was owned by Eddie Whitaker who lived in one of
the big houses on the bridge across from the bridge pub.

Retlaw 21-01-2009 18:14

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Originally Posted by groove (Post 671191)
were do u mean by rileys hill?always called the hill between bullough pk n highfield house rileys hill myself,is that were u mean cos the only cottages i can think of r rose place in the park?thanks

If you go to the smoothing iron, at the junction of Bath St & Marsden St, you will see the cottages up Rileys Hill.
Rose Place is off Willows lane.

Retlaw.


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