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Alan Gilmartin 20-05-2004 00:30

Clayton history In 50s & 60s
 
Any Claytonians past or present. I know this site is mainly devoted to Accrington, but living in Clayton for the first 21yrs of my life, you cant have Accy without Clayton, so to start this nostalga bit off, any body remember the Star Cinema, ( later Carlton ), Empress Cinema, Load of mischief Pub, Doras fish & chips, across from star, Nori & quarry, Pillings f&chip shop, Hackings F & C shop, Clayton youth club, down bottom end in Aurthur st, run by ex cop John Garner, Old Catholic church in Altham, the old swing bridge across canel, where you can walk from dill hall to Blackburn rd, Bottom end. Villabe Blacksmith pub, Forts Arms. Shops on Whalley rd, Frank Scambers grocers, Hoyles Long Row, Ramsbottoms, Tildslys, Youngs bakers, Varlys Bakers ( Friday Buttered Pies ). Just to kick this off, anybody remember any other, people, places, or things.

mez 20-05-2004 07:36

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hi, alan i remember going into varleys for my dinners , when i worked at broadleys print works, although i lived in church i had a few friends in c-l-m, do you remember pauline smith, cathy cannie, vivien briggs,pat lennon, just to remember a few, i also remember going bopping up the vic , on victoria st , mm showing the age now

mez 20-05-2004 23:37

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alan just been talking to cathy cannie who now lives in auss & she vagually remembers you //

Alan Gilmartin 20-05-2004 23:54

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Mez, Yes I remember Broadleys print works, my mum used to work at the Cambridge Press, in Whalley rd, I remember Vivien Briggs, She was married to John Garner, also Pat Lennon, I was in the same class as her brother Mathew. I was good friends with Viviens brother Martin, who married a girl called Susan Tootle, Lost touch in 1970s, wish I coudl get in contact again, they move to South Africa, his mum & dad went over to visit in early 70s & was killed in a car accident. I used to work with Martin at Brockhall in 60s. Pauline Smith rings a bell, but not Cathy, she might mean one of my brothers. More to Jog memory, Gittens news agents, Thornbers chemist, Meyercocks Tobaconist, next door to varleys.

Tybow 23-10-2004 02:50

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I remember most of those places. How about Woods fish & Chips (near Top Club)

I lived next door but one to the Top Club # 12 Whalley Road. What about dancing at the VIC, it was owned by Fred Skinner. do you remember Johnny Kid and the Pirates preforming there?
I went to Mount Pleasant School from Infants to leaving, 1946 (aged3) to 1958 (aged15)

bygum 23-10-2004 05:24

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What about the river stink Alan having come from Rishton lol had a few scraps with the clayton lad in our younger days and then ended up marrying a Clayton girl.

Darby 23-10-2004 12:40

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Anybody remember Freddie Gorton?

He lived near Broadleys and use to frequent the "Top Club" and the Hare & Hounds. Worked with me at Allspeeds in the 60's. He also played football for Altham amongst other teams.

mez 23-10-2004 21:46

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darby did he have a brother who worked at broadleys i think his name was frank

mez 23-10-2004 21:59

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alan, martins mum is still alive & got remarried a few yrs ago, viv& john are doing very well, hes just got a o.b.e from the queen for his work for charity. ill try to find viv's telephone no for you & pm it to you mabe then you can conntact martin again .

Margaret Pilkington 24-10-2004 19:47

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Hi there Alan......
are you/were you related to Rose Gilmartin? I worked with Rose at the Carborundum from about 1969 to 1974. Joe Pilling who had the chip shop in Burnley Road is still around. My husbands mother Isobel Pilkington used to work at the Cambridge Press.
David and I married in 1966......so I remember George Hoyles Shop......and did Dora's F&C shop become Chans Chinese chippy. We lived at the bottom of Henry St.....Did you know Florence and Bob Pollard? John Oldham and his wife bought a little haber dashers next to or next but one to Hoyles...... I think it became a betting shop later.
Aaaah happy days!

Alan Gilmartin 25-10-2004 00:18

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Thanks, Mez & Margaret. It would be great if I could contact Martin again, its been over 30yrs. To answer other Questions. Woods F&C shop, they had a son in the RAF, as a pilot, he died flying, ( red arrows ?? ). Fred Skinner ( liked boys ) At one time my uncle Ted Talbot owned the Vic club. My anuty Rose Gilmartin, Dads sister, she died in 1969 of cancer, daughter Margaret lives in Clitheroe, Shiela in Gr Harwood. My mum work at the Carborundum at the same time as rose. Joe Pilling must be 90 now. My mum also worked at Cambridge Press, with aunty Kathleen Walkden. Yes Dora's became Chan's chippy. REmember Ramsbottons Sweet shop, Tildslys, potted meats, Youngs & Varlys Bakers. Frank Scamblers Grocers. Starkies Ironmongers, Gittens Newsagents, Hoyles, long row. John Garner was always a nice guy, He was asked to leave the police force, when he divorced his first wife. They had to back then. He used to run clayton youth club in the late 60s, down Aurthur St.

Alan Gilmartin 25-10-2004 00:24

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Sorry I have repeated myself here, But that first post was in May. Did'nt read it till now.

Tybow 25-10-2004 00:37

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The Woods son that was killed flying with the RAF acrobat group was Stanley, and was actually Walt Woods brothers' son. There were two boys, and the youngest son Trevor was adopted by Bertha and Walt, but not Stanley.(He was the eldest) I knew them really well, living next door but one to the F& C shop.
I also used to go in the toffee shop George Holyes on my way to school.

Kathleen Walkden, I knew her, didn't she marry Tony Walkden?

Henry Steet used to be called "Long-Row" didn't it?

Alan Gilmartin 25-10-2004 05:14

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Kathleen, you mention is the daughter of my aunty kathleen & Jimmy Walkden. Tony is her Brother, he lives in Ossy and Kathleen lives up Dill Hall Lane, she married Dennis Parker. Uncle Jimmy is still living and lives in the house next door to where I was born in Atlas St, Number 58. ( have a look at photos, Mary's Music ) and take a look at Tommy Robsons door. Do you remember Joe Bracewell milkman and his horse and cart and Hacking's chippy just further down from Woods on left hand side.

Darby 25-10-2004 06:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mez
darby did he have a brother who worked at broadleys i think his name was frank

I don't know Mez...I only ever went drinking with Freddie, well apart from playing football and the fact he worked at Allspeeds! Thanks anyway!

Tybow 25-10-2004 13:37

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I remember Hackings F & C, also Pillings. I think they had 2 boys Alan who would be about 62 now and a younger one.

Tony Walkden did he not marry a girl named Kathleen? I can't recall the milk man, but we used to get our milk from the co-op.

Alan Gilmartin 28-10-2004 21:32

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Yes Tybow, Tony did marry a girl called Kathleen. One of the Pilling boys played for Enfield.

Alan Gilmartin 02-11-2004 22:09

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Just on a sad note, My brother Peter sent me an email to say that ( Daryl ) Katheen Walkdens, husband passed away last week, the funeral was at St Mary's Clayton.

thindle 05-03-2006 23:23

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Hi Alan, I lived in Clayton until 1962 when I got married. I didn't move far away. I now live in Ossy and have lived there for longer than I did in Clayton. By eck you have certainly brought back some fond memories for me. People and places. Tony Walkden was my best pal.. It should have been Kathleen but I was a tomboy. I am still in touch with Tony and he lives not far from me. He married a girl called Kathleen, that's why people get mixed up with her and Tony's sister. You don't know how I can get a picture of the old St Marys Church at Altham, do you. Anyway best of luck and keep those memories going. Bye. an old Claytonian

dhm 27-07-2014 07:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 59075)
Any Claytonians past or present. I know this site is mainly devoted to Accrington, but living in Clayton for the first 21yrs of my life, you cant have Accy without Clayton, so to start this nostalga bit off, any body remember the Star Cinema, ( later Carlton ), Empress Cinema, Load of mischief Pub, Doras fish & chips, across from star, Nori & quarry, Pillings f&chip shop, Hackings F & C shop, Clayton youth club, down bottom end in Aurthur st, run by ex cop John Garner, Old Catholic church in Altham, the old swing bridge across canel, where you can walk from dill hall to Blackburn rd, Bottom end. Villabe Blacksmith pub, Forts Arms. Shops on Whalley rd, Frank Scambers grocers, Hoyles Long Row, Ramsbottoms, Tildslys, Youngs bakers, Varlys Bakers ( Friday Buttered Pies ). Just to kick this off, anybody remember any other, people, places, or things.

my second job was at bracewells woodyard just over the canal bridge [1959]

Bob Dobson 27-07-2014 09:04

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This thread is ten years old and the one before dhm's of yesterday is 8yrs old. Is
Clayton about to be re-discovered?

Eric 30-07-2014 23:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 59075)
Any Claytonians past or present. I know this site is mainly devoted to Accrington, but living in Clayton for the first 21yrs of my life, you cant have Accy without Clayton, so to start this nostalga bit off, any body remember the Star Cinema, ( later Carlton ), Empress Cinema, Load of mischief Pub, Doras fish & chips, across from star, Nori & quarry, Pillings f&chip shop, Hackings F & C shop, Clayton youth club, down bottom end in Aurthur st, run by ex cop John Garner, Old Catholic church in Altham, the old swing bridge across canel, where you can walk from dill hall to Blackburn rd, Bottom end. Villabe Blacksmith pub, Forts Arms. Shops on Whalley rd, Frank Scambers grocers, Hoyles Long Row, Ramsbottoms, Tildslys, Youngs bakers, Varlys Bakers ( Friday Buttered Pies ). Just to kick this off, anybody remember any other, people, places, or things.

Remember both cinemas ... wasn't the Empress called the "laugh and scratch"? And the swing brig ... and the Village Blacksmith, a Dutton's house. Basil Brierly, the last rag and bone man, used to call in there for a pint.

Eric 31-07-2014 00:15

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I remember the Sat'day pictures at the Star ... thrip'nce ... you got a cartoon, a movie ... usually an oater ... and the good old cliff hanger.:alright: I watched "Rock Around the Clock" there, and "Love Me Tender". You could nip out of the show; grab some fish and chips, and head back to the movie. Great times.:D

Jim Procter 31-07-2014 07:00

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The manager of the Star was a guy called Barlow Hardy if my memory servs me right. Anyone remember him?

Aussie Irene 01-08-2014 00:43

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Originally Posted by Jim Procter (Post 1111765)
The manager of the Star was a guy called Barlow Hardy if my memory servs me right. Anyone remember him?

Yes Jim, My hubby remembers him, he was also a member of Clayton council. Another well known man in Clayton around that time who was on the council, was J.W(Jack) Talbot. He had a builders business on Atlas St. He built and lived in one of the bungalows on Talbot Ave. which was named after him. He also owned and managed the Vic ballroom. Jim Birchill was the band leader at that time.

Alan Gilmartin 07-08-2014 08:23

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My aunty Mary Talbot, ( my grandmas sister ) married Jack Talbot, He had been married before, He had a son & a daughter, Edward & Hilda from his first marriage, Hilda's daughter lives in Clitheroe. I used to go to the Vic with aunty Mary, when she went to clean in the mornings, It was later sold to Fred Skinner, My aunty rose past away in the 1970s, she worked with my mum at the Carborundum, I'm still in contact with her daughters Margaret & Sheila, Also there are photos of old St Mary's church if you google it. My dad is still a although in his 90s he's as sharp as a tack. I was over in April and he filled me in in all things regarding Clayton. Bye the way its Tony & Kathleen Walkdens golden wedding this Saturday at St Mary's club in Ossy ,

Aussie Irene 07-08-2014 09:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 1112609)
My aunty Mary Talbot, ( my grandmas sister ) married Jack Talbot, He had been married before, He had a son & a daughter, Edward & Hilda from his first marriage, Hilda's daughter lives in Clitheroe. I used to go to the Vic with aunty Mary, when she went to clean in the mornings, It was later sold to Fred Skinner, My aunty rose past away in the 1970s, she worked with my mum at the Carborundum, I'm still in contact with her daughters Margaret & Sheila, Also there are photos of old St Mary's church if you google it. My dad is still a although in his 90s he's as sharp as a tack. I was over in April and he filled me in in all things regarding Clayton. Bye the way its Tony & Kathleen Walkdens golden wedding this Saturday at St Mary's club in Ossy ,

Hi Alan.
What is Hilda's daughter's name, my husband cannot remember. Edward's wife's name he thinks, was Olive, and daughters name Marian.
My hubby did the first year of his apprenticeship for Jack Talbot. Both Edward and Hilda's husband Bob(Catlow) worked for Jack. He also remembers Mary, Jack's wife.

Aussie Irene 08-08-2014 02:54

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Originally Posted by Aussie Irene (Post 1112611)
Hi Alan.
What is Hilda's daughter's name, my husband cannot remember. Edward's wife's name he thinks, was Olive, and daughters name Marian.
My hubby did the first year of his apprenticeship for Jack Talbot. Both Edward and Hilda's husband Bob(Catlow) worked for Jack. He also remembers Mary, Jack's wife.

Is Hilda's daughter's name Marilyn?. It was Easter 1948, after leaving Junior Technical School, that he started work for J.W. Talbot & Son. Although he is in his eighties, his memory is not as good as your Fathers

Alan Gilmartin 08-08-2014 21:40

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Yes Irene It is Marian , Our house in Blackburn Rd, backed on to Talbots yard, in Atlas St.Bob Catlow was a very quiet man, I called her aunty Hilda although she wasn't really my aunt, and aunt Mary was my great aunt, she had a child out of wedlock called Jimmy, Jack Talbot was a lot older than her. Edwards wife was Olive, Hilda's daughter Marilyn.

Aussie Irene 10-08-2014 08:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 1112766)
Yes Irene It is Marian , Our house in Blackburn Rd, backed on to Talbots yard, in Atlas St.Bob Catlow was a very quiet man, I called her aunty Hilda although she wasn't really my aunt, and aunt Mary was my great aunt, she had a child out of wedlock called Jimmy, Jack Talbot was a lot older than her. Edwards wife was Olive, Hilda's daughter Marilyn.

Alan, was old Beswick the chemist there when you lived in Blackburn Rd?. He was always coming into the workshop for a natter and a brew. Did you know the late Volny Crosston?. He worked for Jack when my hubby was there, and later, after he was married, started his own firm, Crosston School of Motoring up Ossy. In fact he taught my hubby to drive.

Alan Gilmartin 11-08-2014 04:08

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Yea beswick's was there, then Brian Mercer took it over, as a hardware shop. didn't know Volny Crosston.

teddyboy 08-09-2014 14:12

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hi there i lived in Clayton from 1943 to 1953 went to st Marys till i was 7 years old then started school at mount pleasant lived in wellington street

Eric 09-09-2014 14:04

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Originally Posted by teddyboy (Post 1116337)
hi there i lived in Clayton from 1943 to 1953 went to st Marys till i was 7 years old then started school at mount pleasant lived in wellington street

A bottom ender:alright:

teddyboy 09-09-2014 15:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bygum (Post 91738)
What about the river stink Alan having come from Rishton lol had a few scraps with the clayton lad in our younger days and then ended up marrying a Clayton girl.

hi there i remember the river stink we used to cross over on the pipe
and i was at mount pleasant:gooddog::gooddog: school about that time


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