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Atarah 12-08-2010 12:26

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Hi I have mentioned this pub very recently when I spotted two young lads re-painting. (and making an excellent job of it too).

Now I have heard they intend to revert back to the old name of THE FLYING DUTCHMAN.

If this is so, may I ask ................ WHY?

I think some of our members frequent this pub, anyone know the reason for the possible name change?

Tealeaf 12-08-2010 13:00

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Well, the Flying Dutchman is/was a ghost ship, deemed to sail the seven seas for eternity. Maybe the Arden will be a ghost pub, where spirits will be found other than on the top shelf and lost souls will prop up the bar contemplating loudly the meaning of life while the wailing banshee (aka the barmaid) tells 'em to sup up and get out.

Not much different, then, than most pubs in Accy.

Atarah 12-08-2010 13:09

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Nice one Tealeaf!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_..._the_Caribbean)

davebtelford 12-08-2010 14:12

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I think I've supped in the Arden - is it the one that (oddly) has a working fireplace under a window ? (The ground floor window on the side elevation below the pub name I believe.)

I can't remember it being called The Flying Dutchman - when was that?

Retlaw 12-08-2010 14:21

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Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 836617)
I think I've supped in the Arden - is it the one that (oddly) has a working fireplace under a window ? (The ground floor window on the side elevation below the pub name I believe.)

I can't remember it being called The Flying Dutchman - when was that?

Thats because it was back in 1869 & only for a brief period.
The real Flying Dutchman was at 34 Bank St, it was later used by Daltons Printers before they moved to Hyndburn Rd.

Retlaw.

cashman 12-08-2010 14:25

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 836574)
Hi I have mentioned this pub very recently when I spotted two young lads re-painting. (and making an excellent job of it too).

Now I have heard they intend to revert back to the old name of THE FLYING DUTCHMAN.

If this is so, may I ask ................ WHY?

I think some of our members frequent this pub, anyone know the reason for the possible name change?

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 836620)
Thats because it was back in 1869 & only for a brief period.
The real Flying Dutchman was at 34 Bank St, it was later used by Daltons Printers before they moved to Hyndburn Rd.

Retlaw.

Seems a bit daft to change the name, if thats the case?:confused:

Tealeaf 12-08-2010 14:42

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I can't understand it, either. Publicans have a very good argument about the need to crack down on unfair competition from supermarkets. Why then, spend silly money on changing the name of a pub? An expensive rebranding exercise may well be suitable for a chocolate bar, but not a local boozer.

About ten years ago they changed the name of the Tanpits pub in Church to the Plough. It may well have been done to avoid confusion with the Tanpits Club but in the end it did neither of 'em any good because they are both now permanently shut.

Retlaw 12-08-2010 18:01

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 836620)
Thats because it was back in 1869 & only for a brief period.
The real Flying Dutchman was at 34 Bank St, it was later used by Daltons Printers before they moved to Hyndburn Rd.

Retlaw.

I think some of you may remember there was a thread on the Arden Inn not long ago, when 1/2 of Accy Webbers were calling in to look at a picture,
Dob Bodson have a lot to say on the subject.
Retlaw.

Taggy 12-08-2010 20:04

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Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 836617)
I think I've supped in the Arden - is it the one that (oddly) has a working fireplace under a window ? (The ground floor window on the side elevation below the pub name I believe.)

I can't remember it being called The Flying Dutchman - when was that?

They do have a modern but old style looking fire within the fireplace but its not under the window its in the room to the left of the bar as soon as you go in. They used to have one in the darts room too, with the board over it, but think thats blocked in now....its a bit since i was in, might pop in next Sat before i go Syndey Street!

Best Regards - Taggy

jaysay 13-08-2010 09:31

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 836627)
I can't understand it, either. Publicans have a very good argument about the need to crack down on unfair competition from supermarkets. Why then, spend silly money on changing the name of a pub? An expensive rebranding exercise may well be suitable for a chocolate bar, but not a local boozer.

About ten years ago they changed the name of the Tanpits pub in Church to the Plough. It may well have been done to avoid confusion with the Tanpits Club but in the end it did neither of 'em any good because they are both now permanently shut.

Have to agree with you on that one Tealeaf, they did it with the Hargreaves Arms too, why. Every pub has its regulars, and I know if the were changing the name of my local I wouldn't be to happy:(

davebtelford 13-08-2010 10:17

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Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 836738)
They do have a modern but old style looking fire within the fireplace but its not under the window its in the room to the left of the bar as soon as you go in. They used to have one in the darts room too, with the board over it, but think thats blocked in now....its a bit since i was in, might pop in next Sat before i go Syndey Street!

Best Regards - Taggy

The photo shows a chimney on the side elevation - but it has no pots, so maybe it's been blocked up? From memory the flue was on the left of the fireplace as you looked out of the window - which would make sense. Has anyone seen another fireplace under a window?

Taggy 14-08-2010 21:12

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 836574)
Hi I have mentioned this pub very recently when I spotted two young lads re-painting. (and making an excellent job of it too).

Now I have heard they intend to revert back to the old name of THE FLYING DUTCHMAN.

If this is so, may I ask ................ WHY?

I think some of our members frequent this pub, anyone know the reason for the possible name change?

You are correct Atarah...my friend called in there last night and asked, and indeed they are changing the name!...I really dont see the point..but seems to be the thing to do these days...but why at the Arden?...its not like it has a bad reputation that a name change might help with, the pubs always been a pretty decent boozer really!...I must admit though, the current landlord does seem to be making an effort, and breathing some new life into the pub..but the same can be said for at least the last 3 or 4 landlords there that i know of...things look promissing in the early stages only for custom to die off a bit later...hopefully not the case this time!

Best Regards - Taggy

davebtelford 15-08-2010 09:03

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Maybe if they opened up that fireplace & promoted it as a feature ??????

flashy 15-08-2010 09:34

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has Ste Bentham still got the Arden?

Taggy 15-08-2010 11:42

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 837444)
has Ste Bentham still got the Arden?

If he's the chap that used to be at The Crown (Benny) then yes!

Best Regards - Taggy

flashy 15-08-2010 12:55

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yeah Benny, thought so

Taggy 15-08-2010 15:14

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Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 836864)
The photo shows a chimney on the side elevation - but it has no pots, so maybe it's been blocked up? From memory the flue was on the left of the fireplace as you looked out of the window - which would make sense. Has anyone seen another fireplace under a window?

I'll have a look next time i go in Dave. I usually see Jack Pearson most weeks around town, he used to be the Landlord there in the 70's so when i see him i'll ask what he remembers. I know when he had it, the pub was divided up into several rooms, with another entrance on that side elevation, which as you can see was blocked up many years ago!

Best Regards - Taggy

gbell 15-08-2010 16:36

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I go in the Arden on a Friday night. Yes,it is now a busy pub.

After the old troughings fell down a few months ago,new ones have been fitted.New paint work outside has been done.Now black from a maroon colour.
Following this new signs in gold saying 'Arden' have been added.
Because of this it seems unlikely that it will have it's original name of the 'Flying Dutchman'

Tealeaf 15-08-2010 18:42

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What about calling it 'The Flying Arden'?

jaysay 15-08-2010 18:48

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Originally Posted by gbell (Post 837503)
I go in the Arden on a Friday night. Yes,it is now a busy pub.

After the old troughings fell down a few months ago,new ones have been fitted.New paint work outside has been done.Now black from a maroon colour.
Following this new signs in gold saying 'Arden' have been added.
Because of this it seems unlikely that it will have it's original name of the 'Flying Dutchman'

Maybe the Flying pig aye G:D

Tealeaf 15-08-2010 19:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 837538)
Maybe the Flying pig aye G:D

What about the 'Flying Hard-On'?

Whoops....where's Neil and the rest of the monitors to delete this post? They've already done about 6 of mine today?

jaysay 16-08-2010 09:42

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 837543)
What about the 'Flying Hard-On'?

Whoops....where's Neil and the rest of the monitors to delete this post? They've already done about 6 of mine today?

6 you should be so lucky:D

Taggy 16-08-2010 12:23

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I saw Jack Pearson this Morning and he said that there was indeed a Working Fireplace under the Window in the front bar, the flue did slope off to the left! I'm not sure if its blocked off now, but if i go in soon i'll check.

Regarding the name change, he hadn't heard anything as yet, but the name has been taken down at the moment, and as i said, my friend went in there last Friday and asked about this, and was told they are changing the name. Yet strangely the Arden Inn sign on the side elevation has been painted Black at the same time as the other paintwork so not sure why they would have painted this, if it was going to be replaced.

If i get chance to pop in on Saturday before i go to The Sydney Street club i will, but there's a really good "Turn" on so i might go early to the club!:)

Best Regards - Taggy


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