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katex 02-08-2011 20:39

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This is on the canal at the Clayton Bridge (next to Albion) going towards Altham. Has been some sort of plaque there at one time. Anyone know ?

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garinda 02-08-2011 20:44

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I remember that one.

It said 'No plaques here.'

:D

katex 02-08-2011 20:50

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 923051)
I remember that one.

It said 'No plaques here.'

:D

One of your better attempts at mirth .. love it .. x

cashman 02-08-2011 20:50

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Perhaps was mileage Leeds @ Liverpool?

katex 02-08-2011 21:06

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Perhaps was mileage Leeds @ Liverpool?

Maybe, sorry .. not giving you an idea of size, is it. Probably about 3'6" in length. (Guess, as she holds her arms outstretched)

dusty mears 02-08-2011 21:17

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was down there myself recently with clayton prospects group having assessment of canal with british waterways. we spoke bout this but cant remember what now. Would need to consult cllr collingridge or another of the gang

katex 02-08-2011 21:25

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was down there myself recently with clayton prospects group having assessment of canal with british waterways. we spoke bout this but cant remember what now. Would need to consult cllr collingridge or another of the gang

Thanks Dusty .. thought you might turn up .. noticed the work you had been doing down there.:alright:

Was this you too ?

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dusty mears 02-08-2011 22:05

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tnanks. dont know as cant get photo to enlarge - accessing via mobile.. we try our best. Are still waiting feedback from bww after ? weeks as to what reno they can do / would support panel with. Do i know you ?

Retlaw 02-08-2011 22:27

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Originally Posted by dusty mears (Post 923105)
tnanks. dont know as cant get photo to enlarge - accessing via mobile.. we try our best. Are still waiting feedback from bww after ? weeks as to what reno they can do / would support panel with. Do i know you ?

Everbody knows Medusa. She uses the canal as a reference point, when she's flying home on her broomstick
Retlaw.

cashman 02-08-2011 22:31

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tnanks. dont know as cant get photo to enlarge - accessing via mobile.. we try our best. Are still waiting feedback from bww after ? weeks as to what reno they can do / would support panel with. Do i know you ?

Its a Moorfield Colliery Memorial Plaque Dusty,if that helps.:)

Retlaw 02-08-2011 22:38

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 923116)
Its a Moorfield Colliery Memorial Plaque Dusty,if that helps.:)

They are on about that big block of stone, not that blue plaque, you daft old bat:D
There are loads of them along canals they usually record mileage between various known places.
There used to be some on old country lanes as well, showing how many miles to the next town or village.
Retlaw.

katex 02-08-2011 22:42

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Originally Posted by dusty mears (Post 923105)
tnanks. dont know as cant get photo to enlarge - accessing via mobile.. we try our best. Are still waiting feedback from bww after ? weeks as to what reno they can do / would support panel with. Do i know you ?

No, never met you, Dusty .. just gather you are daughter of Lurch down here .. LOL..vvvvv

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 923113)
Everbody knows Medusa. She uses the canal as a reference point, when she's flying home on her broomstick
Retlaw.

Correct. Sat. nav hasn't caught up with broomstick technology unfortunately. :(

Alan Gilmartin 03-08-2011 00:51

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Try this towpathtreks.co.uk click on to Blackburn to Burnley, it does'nt give the one Kate shown, but shows others & links. Many happy memories of cadging a lift on a barge at Clayton, trowing our bikes on, going to rishton, and biking home.

walkinman221 03-08-2011 07:03

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The stone wont be an original mileage marker , the original ones are usually made from cast iron and are triangular in shape and aprrox 3ft high for mile markers and about 18 inches high for half mile and quarter mile markers.Its more likely to be something to mark the place of a bench or work done by prospects or the council , and if the plaque was metal the gypsies have probably had it away:D

Bob Dobson 03-08-2011 07:07

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I feel sure that Mike Clarke, who wrote the history of the L&L Canal will know - Google the Leeds & Liverpool Canal Society for his E-address.He is chairman. He lives in Barnoldswick now. A lad who comes on this site may well know to, as he is a Claytoner - Alan Gilmartin.
I think it is the wrong shape for a mileage post, which were of uniform size & shape.
It may be similar to one further along, just inside Yortkshire I think, which says "ON THIS SPOT IN 1795,NOTHING HAPPENED'

Alan Gilmartin 03-08-2011 07:32

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Its a while since I walked on the cut bank, but I seem to remember the mile stones,

Gremlin 03-08-2011 07:54

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Do you know anything about a coke loading gantry over the canal? From the little I can remember being told it was situated some where behind the Moorfield Colliery/Coke works and was like a bridge where coke was tipped into barges.

I have tried to find it on Google maps but all I can see is a structure for carrying pipes over the water, is that the bridge which has been utilized by the water comapny.

walkinman221 03-08-2011 17:20

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 923155)
Do you know anything about a coke loading gantry over the canal? From the little I can remember being told it was situated some where behind the Moorfield Colliery/Coke works and was like a bridge where coke was tipped into barges.

I have tried to find it on Google maps but all I can see is a structure for carrying pipes over the water, is that the bridge which has been utilized by the water comapny.

I dont know about the coke gantry but the pipes you mention are part of the thirlmere pipeline which takes water from the lakes to manchester.(I used to work on the canal did 11 years worked everywhere from greenberfield to liverpool stanley flight)

katex 03-08-2011 17:57

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Was being a bit thick with a question.. sorry.

katex 03-08-2011 18:26

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 923244)
Was being a bit thick with a question.. sorry.

Sorry, about above .. was asking if the gantry would have shown in the sketches of the disaster but, of course, would have been built later.

Nevertheless, would it have shown up in this image, Gremlin ?

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Gremlin 03-08-2011 18:30

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 923227)
I dont know about the coke gantry but the pipes you mention are part of the thirlmere pipeline which takes water from the lakes to manchester.(I used to work on the canal did 11 years worked everywhere from greenberfield to liverpool stanley flight)


The coke ovens had been closed when I moved to Accrington, I got a job for a short while driving a tipper for Gilmartin, they had the yard where Greyhound car body repairs is now next to the old Moorfield pit, that was also closed before 1966.
There was hundreds of tons of coal which should have been made into coke and we had the job of taking it to Bank Hall, there it was loaded into railway trucks and taken to Padiham Power station. We actually passed the prower station on the way to Bank Hall.
It was during that time that one of the NCB chaps told me about the coke loading bridge but I never got to see it, maybe the pipe bridge replaced it.

Maybe some one will know.

dusty mears 03-08-2011 20:01

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oy clever trousers father couldnt tell what blue disc was either! Cant remember who was involved with that. Dont remember it being prospects though. There is another plaque to go up at the other bridge but rennie pinder's being a bitch - seems to think he owns altham & can dictate what goes where & by who. When we did walk about with BWW we saw a few markers - metal & stone & all in need of renovation plus lots of stone walling vandalised but that's a massive & v expensive job to do. Have it in mind to paint the markers & anchor thingies

Retlaw 03-08-2011 22:06

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Originally Posted by dusty mears (Post 923282)
oy clever trousers father couldnt tell what blue disc was either! Cant remember who was involved with that. Dont remember it being prospects though. There is another plaque to go up at the other bridge but rennie pinder's being a bitch - seems to think he owns altham & can dictate what goes where & by who. When we did walk about with BWW we saw a few markers - metal & stone & all in need of renovation plus lots of stone walling vandalised but that's a massive & v expensive job to do. Have it in mind to paint the markers & anchor thingies

Smarty pants, this is what I was refering to.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...n-plus-007.jpg
So what what you bitching about, any more, and you'l get my belt, where it hurts.
Retlaw.

katex 03-08-2011 22:22

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Smarty pants, this is what I was refering to.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...n-plus-007.jpg
So what what you bitching about, any more, and you'l get my belt, where it hurts.
Retlaw.

Hahah ...love her.. chip of the old block, eh Retlaw.

This is the full picture of the site plus some pictures of a sort of stone circle ... what did these hold ? Did these have some sort of anchor ring within them ?

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Alan Gilmartin 04-08-2011 08:30

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So this is on Con Club side of the canal, there was a ramp going down to the path, am I right.

katex 08-08-2011 11:27

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Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 923362)
So this is on Con Club side of the canal, there was a ramp going down to the path, am I right.

No, on the opposite bank.

'Course I confused you ... got the wrong bridge to start with :silly: It is near the other bridge going over Blackburn Road, moving towards Altham .. just past that first old building.

dusty mears 09-08-2011 22:43

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after consultation with superior knowledgeable locals, it's thought the blue plaque was something to do wi prospects & stone plinth type thingie - was a seat til vandalised

Alan Gilmartin 10-08-2011 05:58

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Right Im with you Kate, when I was a boy there were wooden rollers fix to the bridge to guied the ropes thru, from the ground to the bridge roof. They call it the Enfield Wharf. Thats where we used to get the barge to Rishton.

Alan Gilmartin 10-08-2011 06:17

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Just found this, by gum, that brings back memories, But where the trees are, that was the Taywils factory.

walkinman221 10-08-2011 17:02

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Planning has recently been passed for housing on the offside (opposite side to towpath) next to hyndburn seacadets.

cashman 10-08-2011 20:28

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 925173)
Planning has recently been passed for housing on the offside (opposite side to towpath) next to hyndburn seacadets.

Along with a mobile mast.:hidewall:

Alan Gilmartin 11-08-2011 09:37

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No doubt, Cashy no doubt,

katex 12-08-2011 19:33

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 925173)
Planning has recently been passed for housing on the offside (opposite side to towpath) next to hyndburn seacadets.

Indeed, Walkinman .. this was it :

Case File


Looks like things could be moving .. demolition request :

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Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 925030)
Right Im with you Kate, when I was a boy there were wooden rollers fix to the bridge to guied the ropes thru, from the ground to the bridge roof. They call it the Enfield Wharf. Thats where we used to get the barge to Rishton.

Just realised this week that bridge is called Enfield Canal Bridge ... :rolleyes:

walkinman221 16-08-2011 22:24

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 925893)
Indeed, Walkinman .. this was it :

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Looks like things could be moving .. demolition request :

Case File


Just realised this week that bridge is called Enfield Canal Bridge ... :rolleyes:

Yea thats right kate it is also a change line bridge where the towpath swaps sides ,the next one is at the end of st james road at church just past the half way point of the Leeds Liverpool canal:)

katex 20-09-2011 21:40

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Originally Posted by dusty mears (Post 923069)
was down there myself recently with clayton prospects group having assessment of canal with british waterways. we spoke bout this but cant remember what now. Would need to consult cllr collingridge or another of the gang

Speaking to Nick Collingridge today and, seemingly, the plaque that was in there (got nicked) was depicting the half way point between Liverpool and Leeds. Wouldn't apply now as they extended the canal slightly at the Liverpool end.

The stone circles were just decorative as they tried to make a little garden area. Unfortunately, got vandalised and became a hangout for our less socially communicative residents of Clayton.. :(

katex 20-09-2011 21:44

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Yea thats right kate it is also a change line bridge where the towpath swaps sides ,the next one is at the end of st james road at church just past the half way point of the Leeds Liverpool canal:)

So is this the new half way point then ?

The canal changed sides because the Dunkenhalgh people didn't want us commoners walking near their land... :rolleyes:

JCB 21-09-2011 17:34

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So is this the new half way point then ?

The canal changed sides because the Dunkenhalgh people didn't want us commoners walking near their land... :rolleyes:

Quite right too . ;)

This photo is of the wall next to the canal approaching Church , but I'm unsure whether it marks the half way point .

Sorry I can't be more definite .

Tealeaf 21-09-2011 18:07

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Can't you lot get anything right?

The old half way point is clearly marked on the towpath running behind St James's Church, Church Kirk.

I don't know if new signage has gone up to mark the new half way point, but given that the South Dock extension in Liverpool is just under one and a half miles long, then by my calculation that new point is somewhere near where the railway crosses the canal, next to Blythes.

JCB 21-09-2011 18:37

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 935224)
Can't you lot get anything right?

Occasionally . :rolleyes:

katex 21-09-2011 19:12

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 935224)
Can't you lot get anything right?

The old half way point is clearly marked on the towpath running behind St James's Church, Church Kirk.

I don't know if new signage has gone up to mark the new half way point, but given that the South Dock extension in Liverpool is just under one and a half miles long, then by my calculation that new point is somewhere near where the railway crosses the canal, next to Blythes.


Mmmm.. can only go by what I was told, Tealeaf. Willing to listen to alternative views. Further investigation required methinks.

JCB 21-09-2011 19:27

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Mmmm.. can only go by what I was told, Tealeaf. Willing to listen to alternative views. Further investigation required methinks.

Haven't you a long tape-measure ? ;)

katex 21-09-2011 19:30

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This is interesting, stating in Clayton-le-Moors, whereby the second link is in Church:

Clayton-le-Moors - Village in Clayton-le-Moors - Visit Lancashire

'Coincidentally, the half-way point of the Leeds Liverpool canal is in Clayton-le-Moors.'

Can't find a date for this.

Halfway Point on the Leeds/Liverpool Canal:: OS grid SD7429 :: Geograph Britain and Ireland - photograph every grid square!

katex 21-09-2011 19:31

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 935263)
Haven't you a long tape-measure ? ;)

Daft sod.

JCB 21-09-2011 19:55

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Daft sod.

Ouch ! :D

walkinman221 21-09-2011 20:21

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The half way point of the l&l has been a point of dispute for some time , the l&l incorporates the rufford branch and the leigh branch as well as the main line l&l so including these two arms the canal is 147 miles long with the main line being 127 miles long so depending on which measurement you use depends where the half way point is, the half way point was marked aout 8-9 years ago near the bottom of the donkey back at church i put the lattice metal panels in and i think prospects did the setts and metal pole in the towpath to mark half way. The picture above from jcb post is a mural done about 3-4 years ago just on the west side of simpsons bridge near what us canal workers called the big turn at church the turn is so wide because originally the canal was supposed to go into Accrington on this route

walkinman221 21-09-2011 20:26

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 935224)
Can't you lot get anything right?

The old half way point is clearly marked on the towpath running behind St James's Church, Church Kirk.

I don't know if new signage has gone up to mark the new half way point, but given that the South Dock extension in Liverpool is just under one and a half miles long, then by my calculation that new point is somewhere near where the railway crosses the canal, next to Blythes.

The dock extension doesnt count cause the water in it is actually from the mersey not the l&l proper and its below the last lock of the leeds liverpool on the stanley flight and water doesnt flow uphill:D:D:D

Tealeaf 22-09-2011 09:47

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The dock extension doesnt count cause the water in it is actually from the mersey not the l&l proper and its below the last lock of the leeds liverpool on the stanley flight and water doesnt flow uphill:D:D:D

It does when the tide comes in.

walkinman221 22-09-2011 16:41

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It does when the tide comes in.

Not up the canal it dont because of the locks;)


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