Grand National Sweepstake 2008
 

ok here goes. If you dont agree with the rules dont pick a number!!!

Everyone picks a number 1 - 40

Only one number per member.

The winner of the grand national EVERYONE who has took part gives the winner of the national karma.

The picking of the numbers will be open till midnight on Thursday.
If any numbers are left then they will be open to people who have already got a number on Friday till 7pm. At the most members can have 2 numbers only. Any numbers left after that (if there is any) will be left out.

The numbers of the horses will be in the saturday papers and thats when you will find out the name of your horse.


Good luck!!!!

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Spug wants a horse - 14

Mine number 11

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19 please...........................

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:dancedog:i wanted 11 but i will settle for 12,,,,please

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30 plz for me ta

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Please can i have number 29 thank you

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Also NO changing your mind and swapping numbers either.

Once it's gone in the thread thats your horse.

Sorry gc - i picked 11 seeing as its the day of my birthday.

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No probs,,,,12 is mine....:)

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Chav1 wants 22

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13 for me.............

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Poss to have number 7 please

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Number 8 please

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I'll have 33 please

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Number 5 for me please.

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No 3 for me please:D

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6 please.................

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18 for me please.

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39 please.......

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15 please :D

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can i have number 20 please

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17 for me please

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number 9 for me:D...............cheers:D

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what if ya cant give the winner karma, because it may say ya have to spread it around a bit??:rolleyes:

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good point

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Because i will bug you until you give the winner the karma!!!!!

When you give the karma - you give your name so then you can be crossed off the list. If you DONT give the karma then you will be named and shamed on here till you do!!!!:D:D:D

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Could I have number 25 please?

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can i have number 4 please.

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i will have number 11

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i will number 17

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These are the numbers that are still left:

1, 2, 10, 21, 23, 24, 26, 27, 28, 31, 32, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40.

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number 38 for me please

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can i have 31 please

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can some tell me how meany numbers are left

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There are 15 left at the moment.

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Last but not least (I hope) please Shillelagh ... No. 40.

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Put me down for # 28

:)

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#23 Please :)

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21 for me!!

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I picked number 9!, does anyone know the name??

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27 for me please

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You wont know the names of the horses till saturday morning papers panther.

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Number 1 please

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right! got ya:)

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can we have the same no as some one else

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no tosh you cant. Yes i already know about it sent a pm and awaiting reply

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Which numbers are left?

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Can you just put me down for one please, not bothered what number it is. Thanks

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Tell him to **** off and ask himself.


I will have number 2 please. Although why I am trusting a PUP not to cheat is beyond me.

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I think Katex has 40

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Don't think its bad for you :p. Your job is cooking and cleaning and servicing Ginger :D

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What the hell are you talking about lmao :D

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keep it clean you two - we dont want this ending up in the over 18s do we?

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Im not picking your number - pick it yourself cos im not getting blamed if you didnt win!!!!:D

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Numbers left: 10, 24, 26, 32, 34, 35, 36, 37

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He'd logged out last night well this morning before he realised he hadnt put it in - thats why i did it this morning!!!!

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Number 24 please xXx

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i have 16 if not gone

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I'll have number 10 please.

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Thats ok pam sorted

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10 for me please if i may, after the great simon garner !!!



DOH !!!!!!


37 please then.....that makes 10

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Entwisi will have 36 please

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too late blackburn raver

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Buttonsmum is on 10

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see my edit on previous post :p

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Just to say .. "Good game, Good game"

Attachment 11345

:D

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why did my speedy fingers ask about the national? :D:D:D

Anyway FOUR numbers left 26, 32, 34, 35.



(Check em len please just to make sure theyre right)

Some wacky bets for you from the national website:

Over the years there have been many bizarre bets on the Grand National - some winners and some losers. Here are some of our favourites:

Bingo club tycoon, Mike Fuller, who owned 2003 Grand National winner Monty's Pass, won nearly £1 million on the race. His biggest bet was £10,000 at 50/1 which earned him £500,000. So when Barry Geraghty crossed the line, Fuller landed the biggest gamble in the race's long history.

Amateur rider and optimist Peter Walker, from Blackpool, bet £10 at 1000/1 with William Hill in 1993 when he was 54 that one day he would become the oldest man ever to ride in the National.

Judy Higby from St Albans, Herts, tried to bet that the 1993 Grand National would not be run after she had a premonition. Her bookie said he'd do her a favour by not taking her money because it couldn't happen. The race was cancelled after a false-start fiasco!

Terry Ramsden staked over £100,000 on his own horse, Mr Snugfit, in 1986 and stood to win over £1 million. With three fences left Mr Snugfit, the 13-2 favourite, had most of the 20 runners in front of him but jockey Phil Tuck galvanised him so well that he passed all but three and finished in fourth place to give his owner a small profit from his each-way bets.

Headmaster Peter Rogers collected £6,000 in 1983 after betting the parents of children at his St Michael's Junior School in Kirby that he could complete the Grand National course - without a horse. He did it in 40 minutes - and donated his winnings to school funds.

In 1971, Lord Poulett, owner of The Lamb, had a dream in which his horse won the National, ridden by jockey Tommy Pickernell - so he hired Pickernell. The Lamb started 11/2 second favourite - and duly won!

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Where's Willow? she has a bag full of karma she could potentially give out ....Well, Rep Power, which means more Karma for the winner. :D

:)

Yep, same as my list.
26, 32, 34, 35,

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may i have 32 please ........half my age :D

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bernie says 34

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Number left:

26

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Can I have no. 35 please?

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Knew i should have done this in General Chat - would have upped my post count and my karma!!!! :D:D:D

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come-on Willow, only one place left. Someone give her a ring. :D

26

:)

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I dont have her number - i rang bernie

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yeah i'd noticed that willow hasnt posted for a while, where is she? hope she's ok

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willow says yes please no; 26

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Well .. give it her anyway .. like it lump it Willow .... :D

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ok thats it all numbers are taken.

Horses names will be put on here as soon as i know them.


Horse No Member
1 loz
2 neil
3 Stanleymad
4 Mummiboo
5 Lancs Dave
6 emamum
7 Pendle Red
8 Margaret Rothwell
9 Panther
10 buttonsmum
11 Shillelagh
12 Granny Claret
13 KSH
14 Spuggie
15 Flashy
16 Pam1
17 Royboy
18 Lolly
19 Cherokee
20 Ber999T
21 slinks
22 Chav
23 Nickelson
24 Miss kitty
25 Nikkival
26 Willow
27 Norwich stanley
28 len
29 Lancsboy
30 Emzy
31 tosh
32 mez
33 Gayle
34 bernie
35 lilly
36 entwisi
37 Blackburn raver
38 Lancscat
39 Jaysay
40 katex

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Can you imagine it though all that karma willow will receive if she wins - it will really put her out of reach!!!!!!!


And there i was thinking and hoping that no one realised that the horses are all declared on Thursday and if there was any numbers left ......:D:D:D

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So are you his b**ch or something?

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I rekon when the winner is announced, we had to post to say we have given karma, or if we " have to spread it " we put an IOU in here.


Just a thought.

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When i've got spuggie? Get real i got a man:D why would i want a chav? :D

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good idea slinks.;)

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poor chavster, is he not a real man then? :D

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i wouldnt know - never wanted to know either Neil why do you want to know? :D

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Check on your runners here:

BBC SPORT | Other sport... | Horse Racing | Grand National runners and riders

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1 9-P572 HEDGEHUNTER 12 11-12
Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins
The 2005 winner has to lump a massive weight these days, and rarely enjoys it, but the booking of double Grand National-winning jockey Ruby Walsh may ease some of the burden.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 25-1



2 625142 HI CLOY 11 11-12
Tom Doyle Michael Hourigan
Solid jumper and a classy sort on his day but does most of his racing over significantly shorter trips and will struggle to stay.
Rating: 5/10 Odds: 66-1


3 135P16 KNOWHERE 10 11-11
Joe Tizzard Nigel Twiston-Davies
Did not make it far round the course last year and his jumping looked off-key in the Cheltenham Gold Cup (he finished sixth). Huge weight scarcely helps matters.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 40-1


4 22-416 MR POINTMENT 9 11-11
Sam Thomas Paul Nicholls
Fell foul of the handicapper after winning over the National fences in last November's Becher Chase and will probably face too tough a task now.
Rating: 7/10 Odds: 16-1


5 P-P123 TURKO 6 11-10
Richard Johnson Paul Nicholls
Trainer extremely bullish about this one's chances, although despite some fine form he looks too young when carrying a big weight to stand more than a slim outside chance.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 33-1


6 3-4425 MADISON DU BERLAIS 7 11-9
Tom Scudamore David Pipe
Once so consistent and a sound jumper, he has not been at his best this season and is likely to be outclassed.
Rating: 5/10 Odds: 50-1


7 F-52U4 SIMON 9 11-7
Dominic Elsworth John Spearing
An untimely late fall in this race last year dashed his hopes after he had travelled so well. Expected to be a prominent runner again, although high weight might prove a hindrance.
Rating: 8/10 Odds: 12-1


9 16F5PP IRON MAN 7 11-5
Christian Williams Peter Bowen
Eighteen months ago was one of the most progressive chasers in training but has been dismal since. Avoid.
Rating: 4/10 Odds: 66-1


10 412183 FUNDAMENTALIST 10 11-4
Paddy Brennan Nigel Twiston-Davies
Doughty competitor with little to fault him but ran two hard races at the Cheltenham Festival in March and may be tired.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 50-1


11 11-373 BUTLER'S CABIN 8 11-3
Tony McCoy Jonjo O'Neill
Irish National winner in 2007 began the season as favourite for this but has had some unfavourable results of late. Trainer is likely to have invested time and effort in getting him right.
Rating: 7/10 Odds: 16-1


12 3-62S5 SLIM PICKINGS 9 11-3
Barry Geraghty Tom Taaffe
Third last year when he seemed not to stay the final half-mile. Has had a decent campaign this season and has attracted support. Arguably best of the Irish hopes.
Rating: 8/10 Odds: 10-1


13 3F6514 CHELSEA HARBOUR 8 11-2
Davy Russell Tom Mullins
Won under a big weight at Punchestown before staying on nicely over an inadequate trip last time out. Arrives in good shape but will not want the ground to dry out too much.
Rating: 8/10 Odds: 14-1


14 -01105 VODKA BLEU 9 11-02
Paul Moloney David Pipe
Blinkers have worked wonders for this horse, netting two wins on the bounce this season, but punters must note there will be some major doubts about him getting the trip.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 40-1


15 -63003 L'AMI 9 11-1
Mick Fitzgerald Francois Doumen
Ran well for a long way last year before finishing 10th. After dropping down the ratings, showed his well-being when third to An Accordion in the William Hill Trophy. One for the shortlist.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 33-1


16 -F1133 SNOWY MORNING 8 11-1
David Casey Willie Mullins
A one-time second to Denman at Cheltenham and backed into about 10-1 at one stage but a poor performance at Fairyhouse and some iffy jumping since then.
Rating: 7/10 Odds: 20-1


17 29F-2P BEWLEYS BERRY 10 11-0
Denis O'Regan Howard Johnson
Regarded as an Aintree specialist, so a surprise that he should fall at Becher's Brook 12 months ago. His weight has gone up again amid fears his best days may be behind him.
Rating: 7/10 Odds: 14-1


18 459-0P CONTRABAND 10 11-0
Keith Mercer Paul Murphy
A horse in apparent terminal decline, having achieved nothing of note for more than three years. Don't back it!
Rating: 2/10 Odds: 500-1


19 612-80 MCKELVEY 9 11-0
Tom O'Brien Peter Bowen
Bravely chased home Silver Birch for second place last year, despite going lame in the last 100 yards. Something of an unknown quantity this year, with only two races over hurdles.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 20-1


20 -20030 JOAACI 8 10-13
Johnny Farrelly David Pipe
Trainer gave him time off after a poor run in a hurdle race at Bangor in December. Massive improvement required.
Rating: 4/10 Odds: 66-1


21 080403 POINT BARROW 10 10-13
Tony Dobbin Pat Hughes
Former Irish National winner fell at the first in 2007 when sent off co-favourite. Has not enjoyed a consistent season, and cannot be backed with any great confidence.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 20-1


22 2-P014 D'ARGENT 11 10-12
Robert Thornton Alan King
An out-and-out stayer who goes well in long-distance slogs but has seen his overall record marred by some erratic jumping. Unlikely to be improving that discipline at the age of 11.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 25-1


23 -434P2 NO FULL 7 10-12
Shay Barry Eoin Doyle
Has never fallen in 16 starts over fences, so may complete a circuit or two. Little else to recommend it.
Rating: 4/10 Odds: 66-1


24 F176P0 BAILY BREEZE 9 10-11
Paddy Flood Mouse Morris
Not a noted stayer but connections are bullish and stable is in form after winning Irish National at 33-1.
Rating: 5/10 Odds: 66-1


25 2-360P BOB HALL 7 10-11
Noel Fehily Jonjo O'Neill
Form has declined worryingly over the course of the season, and nothing indicates he will stay the trip.
Rating: 4/10 Odds: 100-1


26 U-5111 CLOUDY LANE 8 10-11
Jason Maguire Donald McCain
With outstanding recent form, this horse is well ahead of the handicapper and has exceptional claims. Trainer's father saddled Red Rum, and the only negative is that he is unraced at Aintree.
Rating: 8/10 Odds: 5-1


27 P-2221 KING JOHNS CASTLE 9 10-11
Paul Carberry Arthur Moore
Definitely one for each-way hunters, with six seconds from 11 starts and the right weight and age balance for the race. Irish trainer has canny record in handicaps.
Rating: 7/10 Odds: 16-1


28 34-P36 MON MOME 8 10-11
Aidan Coleman Venetia Williams
Enjoyed a long lay-off before returning to racing in February and then ran well enough when sixth to An Accordion at Cheltenham. Given decent running, he should complete the race.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 28-1


29 26-2P8 CORNISH SETT 9 10-10
Mr Nick Scholfield Paul Nicholls
Has three wins in 15 starts over fences but has never seen an Aintree obstacle. Not a major contender.
Rating: 4/10 Odds: 100-1


30 104329 NAUNTON BROOK 9 10-10
Andrew Tinkler Nigel Twiston-Davies
Solid stayer who led for a while on the first circuit last year. Right credentials and could snatch a place.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 50-1


31 -57626 TUMBLING DICE 9 10-10
Tom Ryan Tom Taaffe
An inconsistent sort who simply does not stay this trip. Don't be tempted - invest your cash elsewhere.
Rating: 4/10 Odds: 100-1


32 4/0-14 BACKBEAT 11 10-9
Wilson Renwick Howard Johnson
The surprise winner of a 3m chase in January, he remains desperately inconsistent. Not one to recommend.
Rating: 5/10 Odds: 66-1


33 /-0P21 COMPLY OR DIE 9 10-9
Tommy Murphy David Pipe
Top weight did not stop him winning the Eider Chase, following a second place to Cloudy Lane when he gave away weight. Now gets two pounds from the same horse; connections are bullish.
Rating: 9/10 Odds: 10-1


34 28U575 IDLE TALK 9 10-9
Brian Harding Donald McCain
It would be idle talk to big up this one's chances. A very iffy jumper, he rarely inspires even when his jockey stays in the saddle.
Rating: 4/10 Odds: 50-1


35 4300F2 KELAMI 10 10-09
Barry Keniry Francois Doumen
Finished second in the Racing Post Chase (Kempton, 3m) when he looked the likely winner and is likely to get the good ground he needs to be most effective. Clearly warrants consideration.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 40-1


36 85-547 MILAN DEUX MILLE 6 10-9
Tom Malone David Pipe
Strung together four wins on the trot last season, and is regarded as a National type. Recent form uninspiring.
Rating: 4/10 Odds: 100-1


37 -713P7 NADOVER 7 10-9
Robbie Power Charlie Mann
Trainer admitted last December this horse doesn't stay even three miles, let alone four-and-a-half, and needs soft ground.
Rating: 3/10 Odds: 100-1


38 564420 BLACK APALACHI 9 10-8
Andrew McNamara Dessie Hughes
Usually confined to Irish handicaps, this is a dour stayer prone to errors and is likely to struggle.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 50-1


39 /84-2B PHILSON RUN 12 10-8
Daryl Jacob Nick Williams
Gained each-way backers a big pay-day by snatching fourth at 100-1 last April and has sound each-way claims again after having been earmarked for the National all season.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 25-1


40 1P-062 DUN DOIRE 9 10-07
Richard McGrath Tony Martin
Irish trainer is one of the shrewdest in the business at handicaps, so it may be best to ignore some patchy recent form. Was excellent as a seven-year-old, less good last year.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 25-1

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doesnt it all depend if any drop out though?

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Looks like Willow has got the current favourite
I thought that mine was a non runner but then found #8 right at the bottom of the list
......an omen......tis a horse 'set apart'


8 166POP ARDAGHEY 9 10-07
David England Nigel Twiston-Davies
Won his first race of the season but has since declined and has produced three wretched performances in last three outings. Promoted from reserve list to replace Opera Mundi.
Rating: 3/10 Odds: 66-1

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Typical!! I get a 50-1er. Am getting worse, normally in these things my odds are 30-1 lol

Oh well, Im ready to give karma coz i doubt i stand a chance

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LOL - Trust me to get the one-eyed, three-legged donkey! :rolleyes:

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My horse is at 10-1 and has been selected by a couple of pundits as a good bet so I've gone all out and put £1 each way on the same horse at a real bookies!

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Yes, I think only 33 (I think) of them can line up at the start.

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my horse snowy morning at 20-1
lets hope its snowing it my have a chance,
apart from that i think cat in hell chance
:dancedog:

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No Gayle it is 40 down at the start and all line up at the tape ready for the off.

There are 4 Reserves in case any horse drops out before 9.30am this morning.

find all the history about the national etc
The Grand National

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mine tumbling dice 100-1 it says invest your cash else where.
that tells me a lot.
i think i will invest the money at food festival in the morning

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Ive got Slim Pickings,, so i am having that tommorrow along with Turko which i got in another sweep...The bookies think that Cloudy Lane is really well fancied and are realy scared it will be an odds on favorite by tomorrow..

Would Len or Mick be able to sort out karma for the winner,,,Do the deducting and adding....automatic?? just a thought :hothothot:hothothot

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UMMMM second last yr .. but not happy about the lame thing .. oh well

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21 080403 POINT BARROW 10 10-13
Tony Dobbin Pat Hughes
Former Irish National winner fell at the first in 2007 when sent off co-favourite. Has not enjoyed a consistent season, and cannot be backed with any great confidence.
Rating: 6/10 Odds: 20-1

Oh that looks great!! NOT :rolleyes:

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There you go all the numbers, runners and who's picked what.

Should be easier come saturday at 4.25 to find out whos won!!!!:D