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'The political correspondent has a contract to give after-dinner speeches and show off his dance skills on a cruise that includes a trip through the Panama Canal.

The trip begins six days after his last appearance on the BBC1 talent show, on Saturday night, and has prompted speculation he quit because he had expected to be voted out by viewers before the holiday started.'

John Sargeant heads off on cruise after Strictly Come Dancing drama - Telegraph

It does rather put a different slant on his 'noble' decission to quit.

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I WOULDENT DREAM OF IT,,,John was a perfect gent in every respect,and now that the babies(judges )have all thrown their toys out of their prams ,it wont be the same and i personaly dont care who wins,,:alright:
Have a nice holiday John,,,,,

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One thing has struck me about this - why did he enter if he didn't believe he was going to win and now, when there is the possibility that he might win has he stood down?

Actually that's two things but it's the same stream of conciousness.

He's a clever man, he's been around the block a few times, he must have known that he was in there to make up numbers and be the light relief so, surely it shouldn't be too much of a surprise to him when he gets voted through. Plus, he's been touting for votes on the show since week one asking people to vote for him.

At least one thing though - it all proves that the phone lines aren't rigged any more because if they were he'd have been in the bottom two a few weeks ago!

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couldent have put it better,,,its like the prem football players,if they dont get their own way they take their ball in...:tongueout

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Or throw coins into the crown:rolleyes:

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It said on the B.B.C. radio news today that although profits from the phone vote has in the past gone to charity, this is no longer the case.

Any profits from the programme's phonelines now go into the coffers of the B.B.C.

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oh so yer saying yer bent?:D

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I'll treat that with the contempt it so richly deserves:D:tongueout

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Well got to praise John his speech was lovely tonight. Actually felt sorry for Kristina.

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I think the judges are two faced,,,they pushed John out,and then pretended to be upset,,,the judging stinks when they move the goal posts,Anyway He got a well deserved standing ovation ,,Nice to see Zara Philips in the audience

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I thought it was going to Children in Nead ,,

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I think the special slot they did for Children in Need raised money for the charity this year, but not the phonelines from the shows. That's what it said on the news, and I can't find anything that says otherwise.

Rachel's foxtrot was really good tonight, but I wouldn't have given it a 10. I thought Austin and Tom were better than Rachel, but I guess their dances were just more appealing to me than the foxtrot.

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I don't know if you listened to John's speech, but he was adamant that he was NOT pushed out.

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You leave rachel alone, she should have got 11s never mind 10s:D:D:D:D

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John Seargeant is a legen, full stop

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John Seargeant is a legen:confused::confused::confused::confused::conf used::rolleyes:

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If you believe that then you,l believe anything He was the perfect gent as usual..

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But even you have to admit GC it was a much better show this week without him, I just thought during yesterdays results show, when they did that tribute to "Saturday Night Fever" just how would he have coped, as he said himself it was a joke to far:rolleyes:

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I wonder if there were as many votes,i havent heard how it affected the programme

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They never tell you about the voting anyway GC, but there was over 11 million watched it according to viewing figures

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Well they made a massive cock up last night didnt they!?! I realised what was going to happen when it showed the full leader board last night.

I cant understand why the producers didnt think about this before hand, its just simple maths at the end of the day.

Brendan Cole looked furious at the end of the results last night, as did the judges who are said to be very angry!

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It's a good that the dancing was entertaining, because the rest of it was a shambles!

I believe the whole thing was a set up, just so they could still have three couples in the finals, even though John left.

Rachel recieved rave reviews from the judges for her last dance, but then poor marks, meaning she'd tied for first place with Lisa.

The phone lines opened, and when they came back for the results show, that's when they say it was realised that the public vote would make no difference to the result.

The tie for first place was planned, and the whole thing stinks.

Apparently there's been scores of complaints.

After all the recent scandals you'd have thought the B.B.C. would realise it needs to be be squeaky clean, which this proves it isn't.

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Can somebody please explain why it happened. Is it because two couples tied in first place?:confused:

Must say I am glad Tom got into the finals he has been brilliant all the way through.

As for Brendan he acts like a spoiled child storming off when he doesn't like the marks.

Hope Rachael wins, think she is superb:)

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Yes, and in my opinion that tied first place was a fix, because Rachel got great comments, then a relatively poor score, which ensured a tie, and which meant Tom would be in the dance off, even if he got the most public votes.

Viewers’ fury at Strictly vote shambles: All three couples stay in after scoring bungle leaves Tom in certain dance-off | Mail Online

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Thanks G can't give you green stuff got to spread it around;)

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I think the programme has lost all its credibility...I hope Tom wins now,,,but he wont because i think its a foregone conclusion to see him off,,

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Rachel is by far the best dancer. Tom, no, he is not to me. Very smarmy too.

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i still can't get me head around this- a Tie, no way, in all me years can never remember a tie in Local or General Elections, very close so a recount many times, but a tie? smacks of a fix to me.

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Its all explained here Cashy:

BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Voting review for BBC's Strictly

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Arlene Philips was BBC Breakfast this morning, it was very interesting what she had to say, apparently the judges have a key panel each for scoring and the minute the dancing stops they key in their score, they do not deliberate and collude in any way. If you remember there were only two in last years final caused Kelly Broke dropping out, so two wouldn't have been a problem has has been suggested. it appears that irrespective of votes cast the one gaining the most votes gets 3 points the second gets 2 and the third 3 just like the judges leader board. As I said on another thread I missed the show on Saturday night and was going to watch it on the Iplayer as Rindi suggested, then in waltzes my Granddaughter who had taped it, apparently my daughter had said she would get plenty of Brownie points from me if she brought the tape round, she's now my favourite:D

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I get it now and think it was the right decision. Even if every member of the public had voted for Tom he would still have been in the dance off. So I think they just did right.

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The judges can quite easily collude.

The comments Rachel received for her second dance certainly didn't reflect the marks they subsequently awarded, which brought about the tied first place.

It certainly doesn't excuse the fact that the phonelines were opened, and then closed, because Tom couldn't be saved from the dance off, no matter what the public vote was. Anyone with any sense might have foreseen this happening.

It's not rocket science. The people in charge made one almighty cock up, by not seeing this straight away, but only when the phonelines had been open for an hour, and people thought they'd wasted their money, hence all the complaints.

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Well I do tend to agree with you on this Rindi, but the thing is its the first time its happened and we are on series 6 now, but to me if your having a phone vote it should be votes actually cast and not 3 points for the first etc, then their would be no problem

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thanks lolly, read it n it still sucks to me.;)

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Me too...............:idunno:

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The idea of carrying the votes over is wrong IMO. They should just start with no votes this week, if Tom had a load of phone votes that gives him an unfair advantage

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AND ME What a shambles.

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The B.B.C. have caved in under public pressure, and are having to refund those people who voted in Saturday's fiasco.

Strictly Come Dancing to refund voters - Times Online

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I think its not the refund the Beeb will be worried about Rindi, there problem will be if Tom goes on to win it, with the votes being carried over. I think they all have a chance of winning on Saturday, but if Tom does the Beeb will have an Head Ache big time

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They should really start with a clean sheet on Saturday.

The votes cast last weekend, were based on the dances performed then.

Rolling those voted over could very well interfere with who wins the final.

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Totally agree Rindi, it should be on the nights performance only, mind you the good thing is that the judges don't have a vote this week its just down to the viewers phone in vote alone.:mosher:

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Then that chap will be voted winner - viewers will do that just to send up the BBC (as they did voting for John Sargeant)

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after all the scams wi phone votes i am suprised people are dumb enough to waste their money.:rolleyes: but many are.

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Well its one of the few programs of that sort that I like casy, but I've never vote by phone ever, just like watching the show for the dancing

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i think the peter kaye send up version was more realistic than the real thing


ALL PRESS YOUR PURPLE BUTTON NOW

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Rachael has hurt her back quite badly in training. She is having treatment, hope it doesn't scupper her chances:(

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She'll be there Bernie, she's just playing the sympathy card;)

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I've no doubt she'll be there but surely her dancing will be affected:(

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Watched the BBC 2 show last night and she seemed to be gliding around as normal, but I hope (if she has an injury) that it doesn't affect her performance

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I hope that gives Tom a chance.....its an ill wind and all that...But probably the results are all done and dusted all ready

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Your not actually saying its fixed are you GC:eek::eek::eek:

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Well can't wait for tomorrow night, don't really know who I want to win but it will be a great show:D

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I honestly thought Austin Healey would win this. Not been a regular watcher, just look in now and then. But after seeing him dancing at the TV awards, thought he would be a dead cert.

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I am keeping an open mind, but with all the fiascos,and dubious goings on,,and with other programme voting ,who knows,,

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What an amazing final!

A truly memorable night's television.

Lisa, Rachel, and even Austin, whose jive tonight was the best by a male celebrity I've ever seen, would all have won earlier series.

Both girls achieved pefection tonight, and can certainly hold their heads up high, but Tom's show dance was really nothing short of a show stopper. I loved it.

A worthy champion.

All the mess up with the voting was forgotten, thanks to the fabulous dancing from all tonight's competitors.

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I said that earlier:rolleyes:


So he won then?
(Haven't watched any - prefer NCIS)

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Yes, but after Lisa was placed third the votes were levelled, so both Rachel and Tom had an equal chance of winning.

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.........fix!!!!!!!

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I wanted Christine to win!!!!! :D

Actually I thought that Tom was going to win all along because he clearly had the viewer vote. Whether that was right or wrong or whether Rachel was the better dancer or not. I also thought that if he'd won people would go shouting 'fix' and 'Rachel was robbed' etc but then they did the showdance and blew everyone out of the water.

After that dance no one can argue that they didn't deserve it.

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I'd be the first to agree if it was...but I can assure you it wasn't.

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Fantastic entertainment, I will be the first to admit that I voted for Rachel. But good on you Tom, you truly deserved to win.

Only one problem now, what am I going to do with my Saturday nights now?

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Yay for Tom......

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The female vote wins it again!!!

If it was free, more fellas would vote:cool:

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I think you're wrong.

If that were the case it would have been an Austin versus Tom final.;)

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Not to worry Bernie, Dancing on Ice starts shortly:D

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Yep will be watching:)

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Thank heavens for that, was feeling a little bereft.

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Wow Tom that show dance was just magic,and to think if those judges had have had their way you would have been history....