Re: Sir Jimmy Saville
 

No we aren't, and I dropped a stitch on my knitting while watching this unrevealing thread, speed up the tumbrels the blade on Madame guillotine is getting rusty from lack of use.

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

Its called a nice little earner or my 15 mintues of fame and no chance of a libel case;)

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

Mmm but Lord Longford didn't say killing some kids was OK - he was just trying to help her - because he believed she was mislead by Brady and he got his fingers burned as Hindley used him.

Savile said that what Glitter did wasn't really a crime and it was only for him and that was OK! This is supporting a paedophile's actions - Longford didn't support Hindleys actions, there is a big difference, I think.

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

Sorry I must have missed it, when did he say that?
(Easy for me to miss this kind of thing I don't go looking for it, unlike some).

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

There was an interview in which Jimmy Savile said Glitter was only using the pictures for his own use etc etc etc so it wasn 't like a big deal.

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

link Please, otherwise your hearsay.

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

Didn't you watch the program about Sir Savile? It was played on that show and it was clearly him talking.

Here is a link to an article about it.

Sir Jimmy Savile: paedophile Gary Glitter 'did nothing wrong' | News | 1 | The Week UK

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

Thank you for the link and by the way no I didn't watch the prog', I didn't know it was mandatory? I watch the haunted fish tank in hopes of enjoyment not to gloat about the worlds nasty bits.

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

I'm so sick of some of the people coming out of the woodwork with facile stories...now it's Liz Kershaw who's saying she was groped on air in the 80's.

Now I could be really crass here and say, they were probably groping for their guide dog, because she could never be described as one of your average stunners.

Instead I'll say that times were less PC than now, there was a certain acceptability about horseplay between males and females in a more innocent age. One dinner time in the 70's I witnessed a bunch of mature women from Highams grabbing a young lad in the Woodnook pub, they debagged him and covered him in lipstick, rouge and whatever else women have in their handbags.

There was no way that this event could be described as sexual, perverted or weird, it was just a few girls having a laugh, likewise I'm guessing that whoever 'groped' Ms Kershaw was attempting to put her off and make her screw up on air.. i.e. having a laugh, horseplay.

Nowadays these things are frowned on, some are even classed as a health and safety risk and many companies have policies forbidding horseplay and of course employment law forbids sexual harassment both real and perceived.

Today those Highams machinists would be fired and on the front page of the redtops, the young lad would be claiming stress and trauma using 'accident at work r us' lawyers. His mum and dad would be serialised in the Sunday rags. 20 more people would claim that the Woodnook was a hotbed of girl gangs and a no go area for any decent male. Thwaites brewery would be dragged into it, and all other Thwaites pubs would be investigated, a similar instance would be found etc..etc..etc..

Don't get me wrong. I'm not making excuses for Jimmy Savile, I'm just appalled at the media witchunt, the bandwagon jumpers and the lack of context for many of the headlines.

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

That sums things up very well to me, Wrong without question these days, back then twas par fer the course.

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

I don't think any of us that are capable of thinking for themselves are happy with the witch hunt, yes, he may be guilty, we don't know, I'll always think of him as an eccentric, but charitable guy, until someone proves different. does that make me a pervert? A child molester?
No, I'm just someone that if it proves to be the case with Jim I'll have been let down again.
:mad:

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

DJ Mark Radcliffe calls TV the "Idiot Box!" :D:D:D Anyway don't you want to know facts - not cheap escapism? It wasn't mandatory just I thought you may watch it instead of asking me questions about issues that were covered on the program.:rolleyes:

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

so does Stephen King.

What is your opinion. Do you think Savile is a saint or an evil peado?

I don't see the point in this debate continuing over and over. It can't be proven now without hard evidence. DNA, Videotapes, Audio. Whatever!

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

Gotta remember he was 40 in 1966 and presenting Top of the Pops - in this day and age no way would a 40 year old be allowed to present a pop program. So he was effectively an old man at the peak of his career in today's terms.

Also he peroxided his hair, it's not that blonde color naturally is it.

Personally I think he's very dodgy...

re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

Gotta remember that the majority of TV presenters in 1966 were around 40. The only TV for kids was watch with mother and crackerjack, which was presented by Eamonn Andrews who was 44 at the time..different time..different criteria...context..context..context!!!