Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 

I found this link, saying that allegations about Jimmy Savile were covered up by the BBC!

BBC 'buried Savile sex abuse claims to save its reputation’ - Telegraph

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I was always told not to speak ill of the dead.
This man is no longer here to speak for himself.

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There were many rumours and allegations doing the rounds whilst he was alive.

I don't know the truth and it maybe better it dies with him.
I felt so uncomfortable about what had been said I couldn't bring myself to say R I P in the thread opened on his death.

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Seeing he cannot set the record straight.....
Guido Fawkes wrote about this weeks ago.
You really are a class A fool.
Do you like stiring up trouble?
I am tired and bored of your very strange outlook on life Kestrelx and therefore will not answer anything you say. I may even start a ignore list with you on it.
You really need to get a life.

Yes he is.

Yes he does, but he doesn't do it very well.

As are we all.

That would be a mistake, it would only be a small victory, but never the less, it would be a victory for him.

He actually has one, it's just that in his case he is jealous of anyone with an inferiority complex, they are obviously superior to him.

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Nah your right Less,I won't use the ignore function. This idiot can be dealt with

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leave him alone,,,that man did so much good to help less fortunate people....
We could do with more people like that,,,who are not just out for themselves,the
.................................I AM ALRIGHT JACK ,,,,,,,,,,,types

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Isn't this thread just another example of the moral Compass of person who started it, its a pity he didn't raise it before the man died.

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It does no-one any favours(or any good) to rake up this stuff when the man is no longer here to defend himself.

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I wouldn't expect owt else from someone of that ilk.:rolleyes: True or False none of us know, What is Fact is the guy did loads of charity work n good fer people, But some prefer rumour, Says it all.:rolleyes:

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When I first read this article I felt the same as you!

But on thinking about it I wonder why this man, who I can't remember any photos of him with woman that he had relationships with - always hanging round young girls and kids! Now if this was a guy who wasn't famous and lived down your street and always wanted to hang round with kids you lot would be the first to start thinking his motives were unsavoury!

But because this person is a TV personality you don't want to think anything untoward!

Jimmy Savile himself said that he didn't own a computer because he didn't want people to think he was downloading child porn!

nolans documentry - YouTube

In this video at 3.30 - listen to what Coleen Nolan says!

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Proves nothing, your still talking rot

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This smacks of cashing in on someone who can't answer back.

If anybody had a complaint to make against him, they should have done it at the time, not wait until he's dead.

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Well this thread started by you and added too only reiterates what I've said elsewhere. There's an old saying don't talk ill of the dead, they have no right of reply, hey but you do everything true to form:mad:

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think i've just put him into the red....what a shame

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The only place for divvies;)

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I do not label him a paedophile, but for those of you who are wondering why some people do, it is due to -

"When the abuse at Haut de la Garenne in Jersey became public, Savile claimed not to have visited the school at Haut de la Garenne but The Sun newspaper then published an old photo of Savile at the school. Savile’s reaction was to slap an injunction on The Sun who had to withdraw the picture." .

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Around the era that Jimmy Savile was popular, lots of male stars/pop stars/film stars....were told by their agents not to be seen with wives or girlfriends as this would alienate female fans.......who all liked to think they had a chance to date their idol(fools)!

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Jimmy Savile sues the Sun!

Jimmy Savile turns to Fox Hayes for action against The Sun | News | The Lawyer

He sued the Sun back in 2008.

fact is Gary Glitter got away with it for years and it was only the fact he got caught with photos that he was nicked, but for computers maybe Glitter would not have been caught!

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I saw the Louis Theroux interview when he was still alive and he came across a weird character. All his colleagues such as Dave Lee Travis and Tony Blackburn said "you didn't know the true Jimmy! he was good at keeping his private life private!"

In this interview Jimmy Savile tells how he claims he "tied people up in the basement of his club!" He didn't care what the law said! :rolleyes:
BBC: When Louis Met Jimmy Savile - Zero Tolerance - YouTube

Yes, well, being weird isn't an offence or perhaps you would have been locked up yourself?

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Think you have hit the nail on the head - great pity it wasn't physical on this prat.
Haven't yet decided whether this one is a moron or a cretin - perhaps a moronic cretin?

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I'll bow to your wisdom Barrie I've always found you as a good judge of character, even for a plastic Manc:D

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Could not agree more Barrie, we may banter over our clubs, but there is no malice intended. Shame others on here don't understand!

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I started this thread as a vague question - not as a statement of fact.

Today I came across this article by accident... Jimmy Saville mediating a meeting between the Yorkshire Ripper and boxer Frank Bruno roughly 10 years after he was put in prison for his crimes.

Frank Bruno meets Yorkshire Ripper | Picture of boxing legend meeting the murderer Peter Sutcliffe at Broadmoor top security hospital | The Sun |News

I find this photo bloody creepy! Does someone who butchered 13 woman every really "Get better!?"

Do we every forgive people like the Yorkshire Ripper? But maybe Jim wanted to Fix it!!!:eek::confused:

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There is no malice in why I posted this - I just saw an article and thought it should be seen! :rolleyes:

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How could he shake his hand? I would have turned and walked away.

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What I find even more strange is some people can use "swear words" on a family web site while others can't;)

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Yuk! I find this very disturbing, I've had my own opinions about Jimmy Saville for a number of years, but I don't really want to go into them on a website because I couldn't substantiate them.

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and of course he's no longer with us either to defend himself:rolleyes:

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The idea that any secrets/revelations should not be revealed after death is not practiced by governments (unless it is in the national interest)

That is why The Public Records Office operates the policy that some facts are not revealed until after the affected parties have died.

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Totally agree Margaret

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So :confused: - you agree that his death is NOT a reason to censor? :confused:

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I have never sworn on this forum - not proper swearing like the F or C words!

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So what is this big thing about not telling the truth after someones death? I think it's rooted in Christianity isn't it? :confused:

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No its called doing the decent thing, if you can't say something about a person when they are still alive to defend it keep your gob shut

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Wasn't saying that, but it seems there's one rule for one and not the others, if you used the F and C word you'd be banned anyway

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No I read the post wrong, to my mind let the dead sleep, no point in draging things up when the person isn't there to defend it

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I completely agree.

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Can you be more specific? Where have you seen this hypocricy in the application of rules?

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The photo speaks for it's self - why is Jimmy Saville posing with a psycho after only 10 years of a sentence for killing 13 innocent women! Perhaps it betrays something about Jimmy Savilles attitude? :confused:

I think your hypocrtical - aren't you a hardliner for punishing murderers? Is 10 years too short a time for someone like Sutcliffe to be forgiven? Of course it us!!!

Also I never saw this photo at the time, so why should I ignore it?

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It seems some people only want to put accusations under the microscope, brushing aside all the good he did throughout his life.
Jim worked as a hospital porter, for free, not using the occasion to bolster his public profile. He ran large numbers of marathons for charities. All his lifetime of service to others has been diminished by unfounded rubbish.

"Let the person among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at him." (changed the gender on the quote)

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If you think I'm trawling through the rubbish you post on here you've another think coming, but you used what is seemed to be a swear word and no action was taken, it know appears it was an oversite, oh and you weren't the only one

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Your wasting your time Dave as the good book says "and some fell on stony ground" :rolleyes:

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If the policy 'don't speak ill of the dead' was universally applied, subsequent generations would never be told of the deeds of Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini.:D

Incidentally, my italian ex mother in law was eternally grateful to Mussolini because he financed surgery for her as a child - not a relative - just human compassion.

No one is 100% good - knowing their failings as well as their good deeds provides a balanced view of a personality.

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In 1991 I would not stand next to the Yorkshire Ripper - Jimmy Savile was wrong to do it! In 1991 when that photo had been taken the Ripper had been in prison for 10years and Savile thought it fit to rub shoulders with him! :(

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Well said Margaret - Don't speak ill of the dead is superstition! No one is perfect and I just feel it wrong for Savile to pose with the Ripper after 10 years - what kind of signal does that send out to younger people! That you can kill people with a hammer, knife and screw driver and then only 10 years on pose with Celebrities! Wrong totally wrong!

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There's a bit of difference between the likes of Hitler Stalin Mussolini and Jimmy Savile, if Hitler had been a man and not topped himself he would have been executed for war crimes, Mussolini was strung up by his own people, Jimmy Savile was never charged with any crime what so ever, so I for one abhor people who are trying to drag his name through the mud when he's not around to defend himself and those people pushing these rumours have only done so now because they can't be sued for Libel and Slander, a mark of cowardice in itself

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Hitler Stalin Mussolini and Jimmy Saville thats a collection of names you dont usually see in the same sentence:rolleyes: Totally agree john.

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Those dictators were named to illustrate the point that 'speaking ill of the dead' is done selectively - and who has the right to decide who is selected?

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I realise that john, I think this thread has moved into the barmpot section, persons are linking Sir Jimmy with Hitler and Mussolini, mass murderers. What has jimmy ever been found guilty of, absolutely nothing, it just shows what links can be made when you talk out of an orifice not designed for conversation

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I think it's sickening after what Sutcliffe did for him to be "hanging round" with celebrities only 10 years after he murdered 13 women and put the country through a terrible experience!

If Jimmy Savile felt the need to work as a porter in a high-security mental hospital for the criminally insane then he should have been more discrete about taking part in a photo like this!

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Your ignoring the facts as usual! Why is Jimmy Savile posing with a psycho only after 10 years in prison after what he did and what he put this country through with what he did! Why do you think that is right!

10 years and allowed to pose with celebrities it seems all wrong!

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You cant ignore facts of misdemeanors if you don't provide any, what facts are you putting forward to support your implications.

You keep going back to the photo, but never mention Frank Bruno, he is also in the photo. What heinous crime has he committed, what about voluntary prison visitors, they mix with hardened criminals, what have they done against society.

You seem to be putting forward the argument that you can be guilty by association.



This is a very slippery slope, and it is something you have argued against in your" illegal drug" forum posts, and I have to say you took great exception to your "guilty by association" link against you.

thanks for the unsigned bad karma by the way

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I mentioned him, how can he shake the hand of a man who murdered 13 women, especially the way he did. The man should have been put down like a mad dog.

They are as bad as each other for having anything to do with him.

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yes you did, without actually saying his name, but that is not the original purpose of the thread.

The allegation was that there has been a cover up with regard to Sir Jim, but no support for this claim has been put forward, only guilt by association.

This is a blunderbuss defense, throwing in everything and hoping something sticks, and as I stated previously some of the theories have moved into the barmpot section

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Well we all agree about putting the likes of Sutcliffe Brady etc down as you say, I'll settle for hanging myself, something we'll never see because of the hand wringing bleeding heart liberals in out society

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It seems all wrong that your still allowed to spout such dribble, day after day, now that is a crime

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I agree, on top of that if he doesnt agree with what you write he sends bad karma. Now that is throwing his dummy out of the pram

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Don't worry giving karma when your in the red don't alter owt.

The guy is a troll, and only likes to get a reaction. How he has the audacity to call others a troll is beyond me. He abodes in the largest metropolis in this fair land, it is not like he hasn't got anything better to do, but spends his time trying to wind folk up on here.

TROLL:jimbo:

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This could be directed at a few people.;)

At least if Kex give ya bad Karma it wont do anything to your total.:D

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Which reinforces the fact he's a first class divvy;)

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So I'm a divvy for doing what you and people like Garinda have been doing hey??? Because that's were I learnt how to dish out karma from by people like you 2 and others - many who do it annonymously! You are a big Hypocrite Jaysay! :mad::mad::mad::cool:

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You are a big hypocrite! You are completely ignoring the fact that your idol, Jimmy Saville is posing with a nutter who slaughtered 13 women and filled this country full of fear for several years!

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I have given you neg karma once and I signed it

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I have had that many times here - people deleting my good Karma because they don't agree with me and many doing it anonymously! So don't start attacking me for doing what has been done to me! IN fact I would not be doing it if it hadn't been done to me!

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Save your energy you can press your little button all you want won't affect anybody dho:rolleyes:

So it's some sort of blind unthinking revenge for you then is it?

What a waste of time.

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You can award karma as you wish, but have the testicular fortitude to sign it or dont bother at all.

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Would it have been ok after twenty years?

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No it's not blinding revenge! Some people have been unfair to me! Why should some wimp (davemac) complain to me about me giving out Karma when I've been attacked for no reason!

ALL I AM NOW BEING IS HONEST ABOUT WHAT I THINK AS I HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE NOW - UNLIKE THOSE "BROWN NOSERS" WITH THOUSANDS OF KARMA POINTS! Who have got high Karma by being "Yes" people!

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People like Sutcliffe should dissapear and there should be no reporting about their lives in prison, until the day they die! I don't think someone like him can be rehabilitated back into society - so he should be out of sight and mind till he dies! Society can't replace 13 lives - and due to the nature of their death the person responsible is damned for the rest of their life! If there is a GOD - that god is the only one that can put Sutcliffe right! His crimes are that bad!

Savile should not have posed with him! Why was Bruno allowed to that prison??? Was it to rub shoulders with Ronnie Kray who was in that hospital with Sutcliffe? Again if so Bruno was glamorising criminals by his prescence!

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Why after 20 years would it change the fact that he killed 13 years in a manner so disgusting I cant post details about it on this site?

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WIMP, I find that hard to take from a drug addled tosspot, who by association has a long standing club card with Tesco.

To repeat what I said a large number of posts ago; "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at him." (gender changed).

If you don't want your opinion challenged then you should move off here and read Hello magazine, if you cant stomach someone else putting their opinion forward perhaps you should put all of your posts in the "Big sulky Baby" section where you can post all of your hallucinogen induced comments, and take it in turns to throw your dummies out of the pram.

Is that whimpy enough for you..................

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If society was run off that principle "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at him!" Then there would be no Police force or Judicial system, as no one is totally pure and all Police and Legal officials have some sin ...

as for slurs about drugs I don't take illegal drugs! OK so again Davemac - you are talking rot! Something tells me you've been talking to Jaysay! :jimbo:

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I have spoken to no one, all the comments are gleaned from your and others posting about you.

You never did answer the question, as Sir Jimmy is by your implication "guilty by Association" are you also guilty by that same association.

Or are you too Wimpy to answer

Yes, that's how I got mine, by agreeing with everyone except you!

Just let me check...
YES! I've agreed with you so you now owe me some plus karma points, I personally don't care if you sign them or not, just make sure I get them, they are Such an important part of my life.

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Attacked for no reason !..........you have stated that Sir Jim was hanging around children, was like Gary Glitter, had sex allegations covered up, all without a shred of evidence to support the claim, all attacks against him.

Yet you claim that you are attacked for saying this, I think you should be put on a donkey backwards whilst naked and driven out of town...........Oh hang on you live in London, its done for pleasure down there.

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Well he'd certainly get more sense than talking to a brain addled fool like you and you new best friend:rolleyes:

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Ever heard of Photoshop. That photo of Sir Jim, Frank and The Ripper, could have easily been faked.
After all News International is not above such things

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I was making a point about Kestrelx's comment that it was disgusting that Jimmy Saville posed with the Yorkshire Ripper after only ten years of him committing his crimes. My point was that I don't think that it would ever be ok to pose with him but Kestrelx's comment suggested to me that it may be acceptable after more time had passed.

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I think the reason for him being there has been overlooked, he wasn't there to pose for a photo, he was there doing voluntary work in the prison.

Therefore by being there he would associate with the scum of society, thats why they are there.

A question to be asked is, why was there a photo call with these people allowed at all inside this facility, it must have had official permission, yet the barmpots on here are making out it is Sir Jimmy's fault, and by the fact that he is in the picture he must also be a wrong un.

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Totally unacceptable at all time in my view , 10,20 or 30 years or eternity - Savile should not have posed with him! As for Frank Bruno - I am wondering perhaps Jimmy Savile thought he could "Fix it!"

Otherwise why was bruno even in Broadmoor!:confused:

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I doubt it Boeing Guy!


When Louis Theroux met Jimmy Savile - the flat in Scarborough - BBC - YouTube

It's odd that Saville kept all his Mothers clothes and her room perfect after she died for years - I think that is very abnormal to keep his mothers clothes and have them dry cleaned yearly!

Bit Creepy as far as I'm concerned! :rolleyes: And when she was alive he wasn't allowed to bring woman back home to meet her!

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Stories have been rife for a long time about Mr Savile & his private life & his connection to the Jersey car home & that he got an injunction out on the sun.

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Thats what they are though "stories, we are at post 85 and not one shred of evidence, just accusations, truth has gone out of the window.

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Have you actually seen your profile page picture?

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He raised over £40 Million for Stoke Mandeville. After his death he left the bulk of his estate to Charity as well.

Still a dodgy photo, (sorry but I could do that), in the Sun, (which always told the truth!!!), and it is evidence...
What next Chem Trails again?

This thread started out with Jim being a thinly veiled accusation of Paedophilia, how ever you want to pretend otherwise.
Now he is mates with Peter Sutcliffe.
Maybe he was another Lord Longford, trying to see the good in everyone.

I will not be adding to this any further, as it is rather pointless.:D

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About as pointless as the guy that started the thread BG;)

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Yeh a photo of me looking in a mobile phone with no shirt on! Glad you took time out to look - oh thee who used to have a photo of some one with their nose split open on it as their avatar!:rolleyes:

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Think he was complaining that the phone didn't cover all your face, this is a family site and we don't want to frighten kids to death if they accidentally log onto your profile;)

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Possibly it would be too harmful for the BBC and society generally to investigate Jimmy Saville to find out and it turned out he was. Former friend of Gary Glitter and Jonathan King!

This from article from Mail published today...

Sir Jimmy Saville was the subject of a two-month sex pest investigation by journalists from the BBC, it was claimed today.
Reporters from Newsnight launched a probe into allegations about inappropriate behaviour by the Jim'll Fix It legend towards schoolgirls just days after his death on October 29.
But they were eventually told to spike the story, which was due to be broadcast just days before a BBC1 Christmas special celebrating the presenter's life.


Read more: Jimmy Saville child sex claims investigated by the BBC days after star's death... but program was axed | Mail Online

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Pratt - why don't you have a good look at your avatar - that will give the kiddies a fright - Count Dracula!!!;) Also I wouldn't expect kids would be going into my Profile you idiot!

As wrong as I think the birdman is on many, many subjects, I think it wrong to use how he looks as ammunition in this sick thread.
Just because he gets his kicks slagging off a dead man, that gives you no right to have a cheap shot at how he (kestrelx) portrays himself.

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Well its one down one to go:jimbo:

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Typical of people of low intelligence on this thread - always reverting to personal attacks when they can't take the truth!

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You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the bum

Is that all the thanks I get for taking the trouble to put something in your defence?
Well I couldn't be more hurt if you had attacked my karma and left one of your mindless comments!
That's the last time I bother with care in the community, they just throw it back in your face.

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Pot and kettle springs to mind!

Thank's for that Anne, I still think you have an alternative agenda, I just can't make out it's details because of the way the sun reflects off it's bald patches!

;)