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PS I think I am in your 'nutters list' but you are too polite to say so :D |
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I think I've said a long time ago, I always thought he was dodgy. Looks like I may have been right.
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All it seems to me is nobody can trust anyone with their young children so always be there to protect them. I might talk to people like that every day but I can't tell who is what, I just don't know. |
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If there is any truth to all this from the articles it looks like there is a ring of these monsters. If anything, if it is true, then perhaps others that are still living can be taken down.
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We need the D notice that was placed on Operation Ore lifted pronto.
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The police bungled it - maybe on purpose. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01...n_list_leaked/ |
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It says including somebody from within the COE.... well that doesn't surprise me. The amount of these monstrosities that actually exist does. To me its further proof that god does not exist.
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Whilst delving into this topic I learned that all contributions to Childline are passed to NSPCC - and one of the NSPCC chiefs is Mandelson!
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Actually if it's all true and it seems it is, Savile has done much more harm to the world than all the money in the world can fix. As now there will be much more paranoia and suspicion about people that may be genuinely trying to do good things for people. So that is a good point Less, also anyone who is eccentric is now more likely to be labelled a Paedo because of this. Also when I started this thread I got a lot of bad karma and attacks - now it seems I am vindicated and a few apologies wouldn't go amiss! :eek::D:D:D |
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well i don't remember giving yeh any red fer it?:confused: still if i did yeh would know, cos i sign em.
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'Blair covering up paedophile scandal?' | www.tpuc.org |
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I find this rather explosive reading - politicians blackmailing each other because of their perversions.
Tony Blair as 'Miranda ' |
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How Britain came to be in the EU under such disastrous terms was because Edward Heath was allegedly a cuprophiliac, he would regularly take boys from certain care homes away on his boat for weekends So he liked copper, did he? More likely he was a coprophiliac: someone with a marked interest in excrement, especially the use of feces or filth for sexual excitement Good ol' Ted - used to see him around the local pubs when we and he lived in/near Salisbury after he retired. He always had his minder with him but no little boys. (I see that typo has been faithfully reproduced in several other articles if you can believe a google search - oh the joys of cut and paste! |
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Heaven forbid that pedophiliac investigations be abandoned because of a spelling mistake :rolleyes:
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His name crops up numerous times - this is just another
THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT: Child Abuse : Kincora Scandal - MP Ted Heath Visits Kincora I had never heard of that sexual practice before this scandal broke. It seems that faeces are frozen in a condom - home made appliances maybe? I saw on one forum that a customs officer was puzzled by finding condoms in Savile's luggage. |
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I knew such sites must exist, now I'm afraid, very afraid, I can no longer say I've never visited one. I feel so dirty, if I go for a bath in bleach will I be able to scrub away the effects? :eek: |
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When I said I always thought he was dodgy it never really occurred to me that he may be a paedophile, more that he was dangerous in a Krays sort of way, just goes to show how foolish we can be, looking at his use of charity work to gain access to victims, it's obvious what he was up to.
But taking a broader view, in the times he was operating, mainly the sixties to early eighties public perception was far different. One example - I've been watching episodes of A Touch of Frost and thought I'd like to read the books that the series is based on. I downloaded the first book, written in the early eighties on to my Kindle, and having read it I am shocked! Inspector Frost and his colleagues are sex obsessed, sexist, racist dinosaurs who can't distinguish between children and adults - one bit has Frost finding obscene photos of children taken by a vicar and doing nothing because 'he wasn't doing any harm', in others he speaks sexually of being interested in twelve year old girls. Not the cosy Inspector Frost we know from the telly at all! What I'm saying is that this was the culture of the time which allowed Jimmy Saville to do what he did throughout his life with no repercussions. |
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I read an article in last weeks Saturday Mail that in the early 70's a couple of big rock bands had girls knickers as part of their record - one was Alice Cooper, a pair of knickers was part of their record sleeve. Also a well known term was Jail Bait! meaning a girl under 16 who was sexually attractive to adult males, but could go to prison for - this was a buzz term in the rock media at the time. |
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Now this film "Withnail and I" is a cult film but one part, 0.51 on this video he's shouting at school girls and then saying "little tarts they love it!" So it's an undercurrent of 60's and 70's culture that is a fact. Withnail and I (part 4) - YouTube |
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I think looking at the situation from our current world of political correctness that in the years up until the early eighties people generally gave little thought to girls indulging in underage sex - if girls were doing that then they were generally considered to be up for it and to deserve everything that happened to them. The idea of paedophilia didn't really exist other than weirdos abducting children every now and again until Esther Rantzen highlighted it on her programme in the mid to late eighties.
I am sure that this is why Jimmy Savile was able to operate as he did, any allegations made at that time would have been considered as being the girl's fault for being too provocative and no fault of Jim's. It was more the norm at that time. |
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Jimmy Savile was asked "What do you do in your camper van?" His reply was, "Anyone I can get my hands on!"
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we all know Jimmy Saville liked his girls the Same as his Whiskey - Aged 13 yrs, and Mixed up with Coke :hidewall:
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Don't include me, I didn't know.
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If you knew this while he was alive why didn't you as a 'responsible' person report him to the authorities? Please don't claim to be joking because your comment is like you, of the lowest quality. |
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Do not feed the troll, its hard but i'm trying.;)
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I'm just disappointed by the recent revelations :( It was only a joke/ bit of banter :rolleyes: If you knew this while he was alive i would of said something but reporting him to the police would'nt of done anything he was "untouchable" as i think he was the pedo elites top man plus he had links to krays,richardsons,charles etc you'll be saying i'm complicit with these crimes next :rolleyes: |
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John Simpson details another BBC predator in his biography
Home | Mail Online ...and Ester Rancid is removed from the website of the National Association for People Abused in Childhood. Esther Rantzen sacked in wake of Savile scandal The future of the BBC looks grimmer by the day. |
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I'm seeing this as a nice money-spinner, I was around Sir Jimmy fairly often during childhood, up until I was 16 when my Grandfather died, that's the last time I saw him. I may say he fiddled with me in the toilets, that'll get me some pretty pennies won't it...
Or maybe not. If we didn't live in this 'Compensation' loving society I doubt half of the 'allegations' would be occuring. It's all quite sad. I don't 'Know' that he's innocent,of course-I just think it's all a bit too far-fetched, a bit unrealistic, now. |
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The worst thing about this story is that Savile’s “tendencies” were well known by the police and by the BBC (his employer, which is, by the way, funded by British taxpayers) for years but nothing was ever done to stop him. Quite to the contrary, while Savile was aggressively preying on children, the BBC covered up his crimes while the police (took bribes?) ignored him.
While he is dead and (thankfully) gone, many others still remain. How many more jimbo's are still in the industry? |
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So how did he get away with it for over 40 years? I can only assume he had help to keep it all hush hush and under cover. BBC? Police? Masons? It needs to be fully investigated,but I am not sure that the police or another govt agency should be doing it. ;) |
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jimmy sav,gary glitter,Michael Jackson the list goes on :( |
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"...Edmund Burke
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George Santayana So will Jimmy Savile, from now on, be known as the Pope of Paedophiles?:rolleyes: As there have been 200 official complaints and the NSPCC claim it's the biggest ever complaint about child abuse they have ever had! And there are to be investigations into some other people still alive. |
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lol Pope of Paedophiles,i like it ;)
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:eek::eek::eek: knighted by the queen, awarded by the pope, and we are led to believe they or at least their advisors never knew of his perversions?
Victims came forward years ago but were told basically to be quiet Jimbo must have known it would come out sooner or later but Increasingly it seems that he was a protected man. Savile was for years a regular guest of Margaret Thatcher at her official country house when she was Prime Minister Even best friends with the adulterer Charles windsor, a frequent visitor to Buckingham Palace, Kensington Palace and Highgrove (Prince Charles’ estate). Indeed Prince Charles had visited Savile at Savile’s retreat in Glencoe, Scotland...I find it hard to accept that nobody else wasn't in some kind of collusion with him :( Then there is the Labour25 Scandal.. read about it here http://labour25.com/ did the BBC expose either? i think not :rolleyes: |
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The video with the geordie chap was going really well until he mentioned kronos and maybe a higher deity WTF.:rolleyes::confused:
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I dont think there is a doubt that sir jim has been a pedo but it seems all these nutters are jumping on the bandwagon claiming that lizards and demons are responsible for all that is wrong in the world. Maybe i am just to thick to get it ,but it seems a little far fetched to me.
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The BBC scrapped its investigation:
Jimmy Savile: BBC scrapped investigation after Newsnight came 'under pressure' from senior managers - Telegraph |
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.U.K Column interview-discussing Jimmy Savile and the peodophile rings throughout the establishment-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJtLsKtGCSY&feature=player_embedded Ted Heath and the jersey care home- http://thedisclosureproject-steelmag...1/pm-ted-heath... Death of a showman Jimmy Savile-http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=36860 The Savile Affair-http://antisupremacy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/the-savile-affair.html Jimmy Savile sex abuse claims: Broadmoor role investigated-http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19936195 Call me a pervert when I'm dead, I really don't care - Jimmy Savile, the lost interview-http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-call-me-a-pervert-when-im-1... Prince Andrew and 'naked pool parties' at his paedophile friend's house-http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362380/Prince-Andrew-naked-pool-part... Dunblane school massacre-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre 'Blair covering up paedophile scandal?'-http://www.tpuc.org/node/34 Government could face civil claims-http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/12/jimmy-savile-government-civil-claims Esther Rantzen covers up abuse-http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4587116/Abuse-campaigner-I-told-Est... 25 named peodophiles of the labour party-http://labour25.com/ Police cover up abuse-http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/ |
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This started as Jimmy Savile molesting and raping underage girls, but as more victims come forward it is clear that boys were abused too, and there are indications that a widespread ring of pedophiles has been operating for decades.
To just restrict enquiries to Savile would enable that network to continue. |
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I want to see "how far the rabbit hole goes" ;) |
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Steptoe and Son actor Wilfrid Brambell. He was named following the scandal engulfing the corporation over the reign of abuse carried out by Jimmy Savile.
Steptoe and Son's Wilfrid Brambell is latest BBC star accused of child sex abuse | Mail Online |
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BBC covered up Uncle Dick
Read more: BBC covered up a second 'national treasure' child abuser known as Uncle Dick, claims John Simpson | Mail Online Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
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Now we know why he always smoked a massive cigar, it was a phallic symbol, he was blowing smoke in our faces - big time. :rolleyes:
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Ref: this video - post 63.
The bone fragments that were found in this Jersey Children's home Haut de la Garenne are now said to be non-human and also 100's of years old! |
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So who's tweeting this information then! ;) |
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And also,do you know that they do not? Okay, now I have had a little bit of time to consider, I will say something to you. It has just dawned on me after a quick post-search, that you are the same user who commented on my blog and has made a point of responding to more than a few of my posts. You do not know me, have never met me, yet have formed an opinion on me because of my chosen line of work. Please correct me if I am wrong, as you could be using an alias? I am inclined to think that this deems you bigoted, ostentatious and pious,all traits that I personally find the most inflammatory in people, but that's not so relevant. What has caused me to reply, is the fact that it's possible you are genuine, and actually think you are doing some potential good, by helping this young, vulnerable character you have decided I am, and if this is true, then it has to be said. I have worked with the vulnerable most of my life, was a pioneer of a support group some years ago, and you're right, there are some girls in my line of work who I worry about. Let us say for arguments sake, that you are correct, I am a young, vulnerable girl, desperate for money, my boyfriend is actually my pimp, I have nobody to talk to and I cry myself to sleep every night.-whatever just an example. Your methods, of which I speak of things such as saying their choice of money making apparatus was 'shameful' that they're 'dodgy' and are vulnerable and shooting them down when they show any sort of personality,- do you believe that these things would hold any positive effect, on somebody in such a position? Do you think it would make such a person hold respect and figure that you're correct, and summon up the strength to do something about it? Or do you think perhaps it would cause them upset, cause them even more self-hatred than they already struggle with-make them want to separate themselves from 'normal' society even more than they may already do? Another relevancy is your medium of doing so-on an internet discussion forum. This person I defined has made an attempt to be part of normal society and is discussing various current issues and conversing with some new people. And then, they are addressed the way you are addressing me. I am hoping you have the perceptive ability to understand that this is not a positive thing, and again, can emphasise self-esteem issues and result in further harbouring of self hatred, subsequently egoistic rejection from society. Coming across the way you do, from a stance 'above', causes isolation in young, vulnerable people-especially when it is done publicly. I cannot remember properly and I will not be bothering trawling through more old posts, but did I not advise you from the very beginning that it would be favourable to message me privately, following a response to one of my posts? If you want to help young, vulnerable people then I can only admire you for that. You may even do so already-I do not know -however in any case please, please change your methods, your way of addressing them-rid yourself of the innate snobbery and rigid opinions, and open your mind a little. Coming across the way you do to myself, with those who are vulnerable and sensitive can manifest itself and can affect somebody who is already feeling victimised. Understanding, open-mindedness, kindness is key. I would have sent this privately , but as you choose to jibe at me publicly, I decided you may prefer my responses to be public. I apologise for threadjack, also mods, if you want I will move this to a new thread. It just needed to be said. I almost think she would like it if something *did* happen to me as a result of my work, or at work, because it would mean she had been proven somewhat correct! Jennifer |
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Perhaps if you spend a little more time correcting your own posts you will have less time to worry about other peoples wandering apostrophes? :D P.S. Is it good English to start posts so regularly with lol? :) |
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Lol is what I should reply to that! :)
No I definitely meant ostentatious, do you think I have used it incorrectly? |
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JERSEY:Children were loaned to rich paedophile yachtsmen |
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“‘I RAN THE GAUNTLET OF PEDOPHILES IN THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY’, SAYS FORMER CHILD ACTOR”
'Jimmy Saville may be the villain of the moment concerning revelations about child sexual abuse at the BBC, but the truth is there are pedophiles everywhere in the entertainment industry. Many of them are in positions of power and influence within their respective organisations, including adult stars, directors, producers and executives. The following accounts are just some of my own personal experiences – and brushes with pedophilia out in the entertainment and big media spheres, as a child star who attended the Sylvia Young Theatre School in London ...' ‘I RAN THE GAUNTLET OF PEDOPHILES IN THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY’, SAYS FORMER CHILD ACTOR 21st Century Wire |
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Former child actor Ben Fellows has made further allegations since those
Ben Fellows: ‘Murdoch Newspaper Does a ?BBC? to Protect Pedophiles and Child Abusers’ 21st Century Wire For anyone who feels that rampant pedophilia is mainly confined to the entertainment industry, I provide this link showing a long list of pedo politicians (the ones who got caught/small fry mostly). http://chris-ukorg.org/uk-child-abus...ty-affiliated/ |
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Dear Jim please could you fix it for me to have the British people wake up and see how rotten you and the entire system really is? thanks chris S/J ;) |
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So if yeh think its that bad, Emigrate.:rolleyes:
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Peter Rippon was the man who had a rapid 'change of mind' which resulted in the Newsnight Saville programme not being shown last year.
Entwistle has just told the Commons Committee that he (Entwistle) did not instruct the programme to be abandoned. Does this not make you wonder who did? ....and who has more control over him than his boss. It looks suspiciously like he 'had an offer he couldn't refuse' |
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PS... in case you don't know which of Savile's 'friends' would have such clout
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Whats blindingly obvious is many people in the business were well aware of all this going on, Yet all of em put careers first n kept stum.:( Many seem to be using the excuse " I was only a junior" no-one would believe me against a star, Bull It tells me they have NO Conscience over a promising career.:(
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