Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1047814)

- an elderly tory ex cabinet minister and a very christian pop idol ;)

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1047824)

Down to your normal standard of insult, I almost 'liked' the post just for it's predictability.
:o

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1047811)

You and Jaysay are Dumb and getting Dumber! ;):)

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1047886)

Hey i'll tell your kid oer you.:D

Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 1047300)

Has anyone gone back to the first pages of this thread, I have found it quite amusing to see the change in opinions!

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1048074)

not sure if i posted at the begining but when the accusations first broke i thought it was 1 or 2 people trying to make a few quid by choosing someone who was dead and could not defend themselves against allegations

over the past 20 years there have been cases where people have had their carreers shattered by false acusations such as mathew kelly and that bloke who people guessed was supposed to have raped ulrika johnson so people cant be blamed for thinking this was just another horrible accusation especially when in the eyes of most of the public he was practically a saint and patron of many worthy charities..

its only as more evidence and more people came forward that it became pretty obvious the guy was pure evil.

just as when people cry rape when they havnt been raped the people who cry abuse when they havnt been abused cause dammage to genuine victims past ,present and future.

what i want to see is teh people who helped cover his crimes up and helped facilitate his crimes punished propperly.Its too late to punish saville but its not too late to punish his co-conspirators and accomplances

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1060501)

testing testing

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1047826)

No matter how hard cashy and myself try we'll never get anywhere close to being as dumb as birdy, put his brain in a bird it would fly backwards ;)

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1060526)

Brainwashed fool! :rolleyes: I take it that your decision I am dumb relates to drugs and my stance on that - people like you havn't got a clue - you see the words "Legalise drugs" and you see red because you ain't got a clue about the issue!

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1060526)

Brainwashed fool! :rolleyes: I take it that your decision I am dumb relates to drugs and my stance on that - people like you havn't got a clue - you see the words "Legalise drugs" and you see red because you ain't got a clue about the issue!

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1060514)

Trying, trying :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1060550)

His decision just might, I don't know but just might, be made because of the low standard of post you have a history of putting on...

But what do I know?

I can only work with the evidence you put before us!

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 1081990)

Your standard is very low you are hypocrite!

Originally Posted by Burningman (Post 1082004)

Time is the greatest healer.

Unless you were molested by Jimmy Savile 40 years ago, then the solution appears to be money

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090326)

Female MP abused boy in care | UK | News | Daily Express wonder whats this all about:confused:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1090671)

So a girl goes to Roache's house and is raped and traumatised. She then returns - from the reports, a number of times and she is raped again.
Perhaps I am missing something here but why return to a place where she was abused and traumatised to such an extent that she can clearly remember the details of something that happened over 50 years ago?????????????????????

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1090686)

If a wife doesn't respond to foreplay it means she doesn't want to do it. To carry on regardless is emotionally damaging to her.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1090689)

a woman refusing intimacy (with her spouse)isn't a big deal.

There we go again- a lack of sensitivity.Try asking the man whether it's a big deal!:eek::eek:

Any man who finds that a refusal of intimacy damages his confidence, has issues that will not be dealt with by getting his end away.

Surprised at you, Margaret. I thought you at least would understand how sensitive and easily hurt most men can be. :eek:

( Gordon, I do hope your post was 'tongue in cheek')

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1090695)

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1103809)

I don't think anyone should get compensation from the estate because nothing has been proven in court.

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1103814)

I am not saying he did or didn't but that should be proven in a court of law not in the media

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1103883)

He`s a 73 year old male, so it must be him.

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1103889)

...You could of given me a rolleyes icon, unless your serious ;)

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1103890)

Not easy to do on tapatalk, have double now..:rolleyes::rolleyes:. :)

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1103891)

I always seem to long for the 'green green grass of home' when I'm away ;)

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1103919)

Depends where you go, you should be able to find some equally green & succulent grass. ;)
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/smoke/sm...sing-joint.gif

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1103920)

Probably a good thing after all is said and done D, I'm thinking of quiting..cough cough....ok at least cutting down after reading this:
CardioBuzz: Is Marijuana Bad for Your Heart? :smoky:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1103933)

The herbal smoke I use is Mullein

The Benefits of Mullein - Healing.Answers.com

Legal and cheap at £2 for 50 grams. It doesn't give you a 'high', but mixed with tobacco, it helps in weaning off nicotine and has a lung healing effect.

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1103933)

but mixed with tobacco

and has a lung healing effect.

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1103891)

Maybe the stresses of everyday life are getting to me, perhaps I need a 'Summer holiday', saying that, I always seem to long for the 'green green grass of home' when I'm away ;)

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1103973)

Seems a rather contradictory situation to my mind, you take a substance to alleviate respiratory problems - but to deliver this healing substance you introduce it with a product known to causes the damage in the first instance????

Somewhat odd logic that Mags or have I missed something? :idunno:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1103975)

Life should be the only 'high' you need.
Have a look at the story of the young lad who is dying and has just raised 2.5 million quid for the Teenage Cancer charity.
Ask yourself if the stress in your life is equal to what he has gone through with fortitude and courage and then put your own life into that frame and see if the perspectives are better.
I think you might find that they are!

There is nothing like dealing with cancer to give you a short sharp lesson in what life is really about.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1104038)

To get back on thread....it seems that David Steel is still maintaining that he knew nothing of the allegations about Cyril Smith. I don't quite know how that can be so.
I worked with a Nurse who lived in Rochdale in the late 70's and she would tell me of the 'rumours' about the fat man....and she said it was general knowledge around the town.
So I don't believe it for a minute.

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1104393)

BBC News - Max Clifford guilty of eight indecent assaults

Hopefully this wrong un will get a long sentence.
Tip of the iceberg? Hmmm

If he's so good at public relations, whys everyone think he's a [insert word].

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1104788)

Will he be bringing down any of the other peado's at top? :(

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1103975)

Life should be the only 'high' you need.

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1104909)

Here we go again.
Max Clifford jailed: Police investigate fresh allegations against shamed PR guru after new women come forward - Mirror Online

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1104910)

Nope, here you go again, just a link, no real input.

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1104942)

Nope, here you go again, just a (provocative) comment, No real input :p

Anyway, Max's antics have caught up with him, he could appeal but there's always a chance he could get longer.
Hopefully, with more of his 'victims' coming forward he won't see the light of day again and I know they do segregate what's known in prisons as "beasts", accidents can (and hopefully will) happen.

For anyone interested here's the "sentencing remarks" :(
http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resource...v-clifford.pdf

Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1105032)

I think Clifford may be aware that when Stuart Hall appealed his sentence was increased. Wonder if he's a gambling man?

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1107306)

'celebrities' can be seen as soft targets

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1107311)

Quite so it appears, in truth the common consensus is that the rot is deeper, darker & goes further up the food chain than is being allowed to be broadcast! Certain political figures have been cited as involved/present but not brought to task. The system reeks of cronyism & cover up, so for those reasons alone the whole truth & depth of the depravity & indulgence will never be exposed.

In the mean time, the populace will be thrown the comforting crumbs of a few has-beens up for public exhibition & reviling, this pitiful charade all a part of the appeasement to throw the baying hounds off the blood trail of the higher placed degenerates.

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1109482)

Microwaves can kill....

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1109487)

Not big enough to bungle a body in & frizzle 'em! ;)

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1109482)

Microwaves can kill.... But not in the 'smoke alarms give u cancer' way :D

Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 1109479)

Rolf Harris found guilty and driven home - why is he not taken down to the cells like any other common criminal ?

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1109513)

Of course they can kill, if someone is walking past a three story building and I throw one off a balcony I suspect that the dent in the head would just about be fatal.
However having spent my working life with microwaves in their various forms and survived somehow I feel reasonably sure that, they have had less affect on me than a cigarette has on a beagle.
and the second head on my shoulder is nodding in agreement.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1110053)

Yes, and they talk of his age as if it is some kind of get out clause.

Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 1110062)

Maybe they should add an extra couple of months to their sentence for each year they "got away with it" ?

30 years x 2 = an extra 60 months, seems fair!

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1110078)

The enquiry is to be conducted by retired judge Baroness Elizabeth Butler-Sloss
BBC News - Ex-senior judge Butler-Sloss to head child sex abuse inquiry
She failed miserably when she conducted the enquiry into Church of England abuse, as this next link shows.
BBC News - Church abuse report over Sussex sex abuse 'inaccurate'