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I sincerely hope they send the arrogant gets case to the appeal court.

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Looks like the fox is the latest one

DJ Neil Fox held over 'sex assaults' - BBC News

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There was an old DJ from Wigan................Who said, ,,Love, cum ere I,v a big un..............The lady said, ,,No, that,s as far as you go,,.............I just couldn,t keep up with you,r rhythm.

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I often feel a t.t at work, usually when I break something...all this prosecuting malarkey has got me looking over my shoulder.

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"Former DJ Ray Teret 'raped 15-year-old girl with Jimmy Savile then gave her bus fare home"

Former DJ Ray Teret 'raped 15-year-old with Jimmy Savile then gave her bus fare home' - Mirror Online

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Looks like that silly Munt said "the military should now be included in the upcoming government inquiry into historic sex abuse in public institutions".
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29559163v

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Interesting to hear what Francis Rossi says about what Saville was up to from 14:40 on the time bar...

BBC iPlayer - HARDtalk - Francis Rossi - guitarist, singer and founder of Status Quo

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hiSBYsK1iMk

Worth a watch,for anyone who's interested in exposing the elite peado rings in this country.

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Anyone see the TV program "The Paedophile Next Door."

The Paedophile Next Door - Channel 4

It claimed the stats were; 1 in 4 girls will be molested, and 1 in 8 boys by the time they are 16. That the most common culprit will be a family member or friend that is about 80% of all molestation is by a family or family friend member. Which is shocking really.

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A bit of good news,however, it's still the politicians and other wrong un's that are getting away with it that need weeding out.
Gary Glitter found guilty of sexual abuse and attempted rape of young girls | Daily Mail Online

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Harris and Clifford look like their facing more charges:-
Max Clifford and Rolf Harris set to face fresh sex charges - Mirror Online

Is it just me or do them two beasts bare a striking resemblance to this one?

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"Former home secretary Leon Brittan buried in unmarked grave due to vandalism fears' after 'very private' funeral,staff told not to reveal grave's location without family's permission"

Leon Brittan 'buried in undisclosed location in London cemetery' | Daily Mail Online

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"Fred Talbot: Weatherman guilty of abusing teenage boys"

BBC News - Fred Talbot: Weatherman guilty of abusing teenage boys

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Looks like Rotherham is not alone.

West Yorkshire Police charge 25 men with child sex offences - BBC News

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Sir Cliff Richard is back in the media, facing more charges for crimes he's 'allegedly' committed.

Sir Cliff Richard police inquiry 'significantly expanded' - BBC News

Perhaps I was right about him being a wrong un.

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Perhaps you are also wrong?

Do you have a guilty secret that makes you look for the worst in other's?

I don't like Sir Cliff but I won't keep condemning him the way you do.

Should you look at your own guilt before condemning others?

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The raid on his last remaining UK residence gave him the perfect excuse to sell it.
An arrest would be fraught with difficulties - he now resides only in Portugal and the Bahamas.
There is bound to be reluctance to press charges and the raid may well have been engineered to enable him to avoid it.

I have viewed the Elm Guest House visitors documents and am inclined to not accept his pleas of innocence. The poice are justified in investigating him.

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I have viewed many thing's on the web, some later proved to be false.

I have never enjoyed Cliff Richards, but he is not to be condemned unless by a Jury of his Peers.

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Perhaps,fancy a wager? :)

Not that I'm aware of,How's the relationship with the new neighbour going,has he made you feel like a young chap yet :eek: ;)

I don't like him either,I think he's a wrong un, I'm curious to know if I'm right,with sexual offences nowadays most folk are presumed guilty until proven innocent.
I said if apologise if the allegations were (cough cough,white washed) proven to be false.

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The BBC are running a story on more reports regarding Jimmy Savile's abuse at Stoke Mandeville. The BBC have even commented the fact that Margaret Thatcher tried four times to get him knighted, eventually succeeding, even though it was an open secret he was a paedo.

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I'm with you on this one M.

here is the list (for those who haven't seen it)

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For those about to say -'anyone could write that' -
The documents were held up to camera by a social worker whose face and hands were also in the frame. She did that hurriedly before they were seized by police because she wanted to be sure they didn't 'get lost'.

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I am appalled that the incidents at Stoke Mandeville were not acted upon.
If I had reported something like that I would want to know what was being done about it and if nothing was done then I would be hollerin like the hounds of hell were after me.
I would have reported the situation to the police myself if nothing was done.

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"Former pop star Gary Glitter has been jailed for a total of 16 years for sexually abusing three young girls between 1975 and 1980.
Garry Glitter, whose real name is Paul Gadd, was sentenced for attempted rape, four counts of indecent assault and one of having sex with a girl under 13."

Gary Glitter jailed for 16 years - BBC News

A life's sentence for someone who's so long in the tooth.

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There was a lad in Accy ( I won't mention his name now deceased) but he used to abuse his sister in front of his mates and make her cry - so I bet this has gone on a lot more in families than people think - not just celebrities.

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Shame on his mates for watching not protecting. Of course it happens that's why it's called incest.

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and that makes it right?
Of course it doesn't make it right!
What a big man this person you knew, must have been......and his despicable friends for watching the girl be abused and humiliated in front of others.
It would be bad enough for it to happen in private, but that was unforgivable.

The situation will never be fixed until those in positions of authority/influence/power are rooted out and made to pay for their crimes against children.
Unfortunately these people are in the position of being able to destroy/lose evidence of their misdeeds.

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Of course,sadly, it happens in all walks of life :(

Personally,I became aware of pedos when I was about 9yr old I regularly went to church where a priest had a unhealthy interest in the boys there.
He used to peck,cuddle some of them,the poser ones (thankfully not me).
I remember there was something about him that just didn't feel right and I told my gran about this once,she,a straight talking women of the world,told me about the dangers of folk who regard children as sexual objects but thankfully these grotesque perversions didn’t affect most folk.
As time has gone on I've become more and more aware of cases of abuse against children and have also become particularly skeptical about the sentencing and rehabilitation of these sort of offenders to the point I'd turn a blind eye to vigilantism :dflam:.

Sexual activity between adults and kids remains one thing that a normal folk are not prepared to tolerate, and for that we can only be grateful (hence the thumbs up M,L).

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The thing is, adults know that what they are doing when they engage in sexual activity with children, is wrong on every level.
Some of those abusers will give the excuse that they were abused.
So, if they were abused they know exactly how bad it makes children feel about themselves.....and that it will affect the whole of their lives.
It may cause the child to commit suicide, and will certainly affect how the child makes relationships as an adult.

It is just plain wrong.
But it will continue until those in authority step up to the plate and root out all those in high places. Those who think they are above the law, above justice because they see themselves as justice....the judges, the police, the politicians, the mayors, the councillors.
Those who have been guilty of sexual abuse in the past. I don't care how old they are.
I don't care if they have gone to meet their maker. I want to know who they. The public deserve this, to know which of the leaders of the community were involved.
No more hiding their names....because by doing,so we disrespect their victims and stop them from getting closure.

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Who said I said it was right? I am saying it is probably much more common than people like to admit!

This was when I/we was about 12 - 13 and he was same age, though the sister may have been few years younger than he and from what you would see as respectable family - with about 6 other kids there watching and most of them laughing! God knows what he did to her in private?

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Are you saying you witnessed this?

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I did not say or imply that you said it was right...if you looked you would see a question mark....I was asking a rhetorical question.
What I was saying in a roundabout way was, because it is common, should that mean it is an acceptable form of behaviour.......then I answered that it should not be acceptable for any reason.

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Yep twice, something he did on a Saturday afternoon - but I wasnt one of his main gang so he probably did it a lot more on other occasions - weren't nice but lads laughed - this is a good reason we need sex education as things like this are more likely to happen if its a taboo subject and can't be discussed with the parents.

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It depends what you mean by sex education.
Sex education is not a one size fits all thing......and sometimes it will stimulate a curiousity to try out the things which have been discussed.
I think it would be far better coming from parents(they are best able to respond to questions in an environment that is familiar and the child need not fear being ridiculed by peers)...and that children should be told about inappropriate touching of parts covered by a swimsuit.
Children should be educated to know to tell a parent if there has been any inappropriate contact by anyone......even if that someone is a teacher, a family friend or another family member.

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If you witnessed this twice (can't understand why you'd be in this lads company a second time after witnessing it once) and never did anything about it, then you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

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Rubbish! You wouldn't have done anything about it anyway mate. It was really quick and you just don't think about it when you are that age - also how do you know what it was?

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Really quick and yet forceful enough to make her cry?
You were there twice, only now after he dies do you mention it.
Please, don't tell us about anything else, she may still be alive and a member on here, does she need to be reminded of such times?

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Because you told us -
You don`t know what I or anyone else would have done, but we do know that you did nothing (except go back again for another look)

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Cyril Smith child abuse inquiry 'scrapped after his arrest' - BBC News

So the police were (criminally) complicit....Not surprising news :rolleyes:

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They were complicit because they were involved....Politicians were involved....judges were probably involved too.
So how can there ever be justice for the victims and their families?
It is ok for politicians now to say that there will be zero tolerance....but how can this be when there is still so much distrust about transparency in the investigations.
How can the police be trusted to investigate themselves?

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My trust in every single one of 'the Establishment' has been eroded through different experiences.Folk deemed 'high profile’ are usually handled by more senior as apposed to junior officers, thus confirming that there is one law for the powerful and another for the the rest of us.
Nothing will change unless there is genuine accountability for those scumbags who govern us....


...I won't hold my breath.

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How can you have accountability when those who are supposed to be the law makers, the law enforcers and the judges are mired in this kind of sleaze(and that is just the polite word for it).
Those in these professions who are honest(and there are some)have no chance without the support of those who should be safeguarding us.
I thought the Magna Carta was supposed to tell us that 'no man is above the law'!
Well now it seems that if you are the law, then you can do anything you want without fear of consequences.

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all polititions have to do is decide if they should face criminal proceedings or not

as shown in the expenses scandal they decided they shouldnt and the same will happen over pedophile and rape cases

MPs are immune if they decide they are immune to punishment

it has now become so accepted that MPs are crooked that they can flaunt their actions openly and still keep their positions in parliament

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I didn't go back and have another look because that is not what happened - so don't make assumptions when you don't know the exact events!

You should be more worried about why Cyril Smith was let off for serious abuse allegations in 70's and the cover up of wide scale paedo accusations in our political system!

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It may have been once or twice. But there was some other dodgy deed he did of a gay nature. It seemed to be about exhibitionism to his mates, like he was showing off - being clever!

The reason I brought this up is on context of this subject...

Again the point I was making that it's not only these people like Saville, Hall and Harris that have been doing this but everyday people who may live next door! But also that their friends did nothing about it so that indicates an acceptance like in 60's it was acceptable to wolf whistle and passing women now it's frowned on. Now that said I was not one of this lads close friends he had about 6 others who did nothing and were his close friends. The circumstance I was in was a Saturday afternoon - "Oh come to our house for a lemon juice!" and as about 8 kids are standing about - this activity starts up - just like someone kicking a football round. The point is he must have done it before amoungst his crowd of best mates. As I was not one of those I don't know how often he did it.

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Pathetic!

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People like you your not interested in a conversation your about controlling this forum because your son runs it and pushing people about you idiot! You and your little clique!!!

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Not in the slightest, people like me find people like you that seem to enjoy exposing other people's terrible vices then go on to confess they were involved not once but twice, in a form of abuse probably as bad (even if only a witness) to be pathetic.

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A quote from Desmond tutu "if you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor..."

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Looks like the BBC aren't impressed by the elite pedophile investigations...I wonder why :(

BBC at war over Panorama on claims of VIP paedophile network | ExaroNews

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Total rubbish - I have witnessed a lot of things in Accrington that were bad and that perhaps indicates the state of people generally not just those from Accrington. So I take it you would have been the big 12 year old "he-man" punched the lights out of 6 lads who were part of this lads best mates - and ride off down Stanley Street into the sunset. How many times have you been at school and seen some unsavoury behaviour and not intervened - it's the same thing.

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When are you going to stop digging the hole?
Of course I wouldn't have been some form of hero, i don't really know what my reaction would have been BUT, I wouldn't have gone back for second helpings nor would I announce such a personal shame to the world pretending I was innocent.
You have already admitted you did. Shame on you and your so called friends.

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Another example of pedophiles in high places....

....."creepy" isn't the word I'd use :(

Video: Joe Biden Is That Creepy Uncle You Avoided at Family Reunions as a Kid | The Daily Sheeple

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The story you told. My 'mates' that i hung around with wouldnt have laughed, they wouldve beaten the crap out of him. Glad such a person is no longer with us.

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I am totally with you on this, I was no angel as a young teen, but would have kicked 10 colours of **** out of the perpetrator. IMO, the voyeurs, all of them, were just as guilty as the perpetrator - perhaps more so in that they did not report what was a despicable crime.

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No question at all, agree entirely. We were far from perfect,in fact little sods, but theres a line yeh do not cross.

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Never mind that you are nit picking deliberately! It had nowt to do with me and I feel no guilt what so ever about it happening - I am sure there are many here muck racking - who have seen things and perhaps done things they should be ashamed of!!! I don't give a fig.

WHAT about 44 Police to be investigated in Rotherham for ignoring child sex abuse claims!? You should be very worried about that...ediots!

Rotherham scandal: IPCC to investigate 44 police officers over handling of child sex claims - Telegraph

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You are right of course, the scandal of Rotheram is terrible....that police officers are implicated is very worrying. They were supposed to be protecting vulnerable children.....BUT, this is just an attempt to divert our attention from your confession about having seen a young girl abused by her brother and not having done anything about it.
The fact that you feel no guilt about doing nothing to help the girl is quite disgusting.....you knew what was being done was wrong, so you are complicit in the abuse.
To call the condemnation of your offence 'muck raking' is another justification.....and you should give a fig.....in fact you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

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Lord Janner appeared in court to face child sex abuse charges for 59 seconds | Daily Mail Online

What's good for the goose Mr Janner

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Seems he was unfit to appear...........until the judge threatened to have him arrested, amazing how inspiring the thought of that was.:rolleyes:

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Yes,it was pretty much common knowledge he was a wrong un,when I read about it I thought buggar me :D...I'm surprised it took so long ;)

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Did he?

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And how long did it take him?

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Buggar off :p

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Get your foil hat ready,look who's No4 on the guest list

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Ex-Tory MP Harvey Proctor insists he's 'completely innocent' as police probe claims of child sex and murder - Mirror Online

Vatican ex-envoy Wesolowski dies ahead of abuse trial - BBC News


Coincidence? Hmmm

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The cover up continues :rolleyes:

'Grave doubts' over claims of key witnesses in VIP sex abuse inquiry | Daily Mail Online

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Jonathan King has been arrested for sex offences against young boys :rolleyes:


Former music mogul Jonathan King 'arrested on suspicion of historical child sex offences' - Mirror Online

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The Police like a good dawn raid, must get more on overtime for the early start. Why don't they just wait until he's up and about. It's not like he's hiding from them, he's been walking around since he did the alleged crimes for 40 years.

They did the same with the so called phone hacking, dawn raids lots of arrests, big stories in the papers. When they were all released or acquitted almost nothing was said. Does anyone know who actually got sent down for what? Even Rebekah Brooks is back as chief exec of News UK the company that was News International before the News Corporation split

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come on neil if the law was equally applied most of westminster would be in prison

Rebekah brooks is protected by cameron and there wer so many people guilty of fraud and corruption across all the major parties they wrote themselves a get out of jail card

as for dawn raids .. well you have to make it look good for the news so it looks like they are doing something

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Cliff Richard may still face charges!? Police will hand case to Crown Prosecution Service for them to decide if there is a case to answer.

Cliff Richard child abuse probe police prepare to hand file to CPS | Daily Mail Online

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With cliffs position in the chain,chances of him being prosecuted are slim to none :(

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Will this documentary,made by a pedo protecting company,tell us anything new or about his links with Royal's etc? Ummm

BBC - Louis Theroux to make new film about Jimmy Savile for BBC Two - Media Centre

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Some people seem to have a perverse interest in this particular thread - I wonder why?