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Aussie Irene 16-08-2014 08:11

Re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1113464)
Was it just the Mail carrying this story?
No.....all the populist papers had this story on their front pages.
Would you prefer that this had been 'hidden'?
Isn't the hiding of hideous offences against children what got us here in the first place.
In the social media there has (allegedly)been speculation about this for quite some time.

I would ask you...if your son or daughter had been molested by someone(anyone.....not just someone in the public gaze) wouldn't you be wanting them to be brought book??
You do not need to answer that last question because I can guess at your answer.

The other thing is, when a child/adolescent has been abused there are usually others out there who have also had the attention of these perverts......they feel very alone and isolated.....they feel that they must be the only person alive to have gone through this horrible event. Hearing the news that there are more like you gives you the courage to stand up and say 'he did this to me too'.
It isn't a case of jumping on the bandwagon...for notoriety or cash.....the experience was humiliating and having to stand up and tell someone about it is to relive the humiliation and disgust of yourself all over again.....and then to have people say that you are doing it for money. That must be really distressing.

The Police, the judiciary, the people who govern this country have all been shown to have feet of clay...to have behaved badly. The media are not without their flaws either.

To fetter the news media is to give these people(who all need to realise they are scrutinised) a free reign to do as they please.
Is that what you want?

I agree with every word of that post Margaret. We women certainly have a different view of this type of crime.

Less 16-08-2014 08:17

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Originally Posted by Aussie Irene (Post 1113474)
I agree with every word of that post Margaret. We women certainly have a different view of this type of crime.

Do you?
I don't think so, different views have been put forward by members of both sexes, however the commonality running through all the posts has been the disdain for the perpetrators by all.

Aussie Irene 16-08-2014 08:42

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1113476)
Do you?
I don't think so, different views have been put forward by members of both sexes, however the commonality running through all the posts has been the disdain for the perpetrators by all.

Less, i was referring to what Margaret had written in her post.

Accyexplorer 16-08-2014 09:07

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1113468)
And to Jason....sorry if there are too many long words.
I have a very battered and dogeared dictionary....I am trying to extend your education here :D

No apology needed M,that's what googles for ;)
I thought you was neologist at first......

....everyday has the potential to be a school day on Accyweb :D

cashman 16-08-2014 09:07

Re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 
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Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 1113419)
Cliff is reportedly 'outraged' that he only heard about the police search of his flat after the press got to know. No doubt he'll be hot-footing it back to the UK to tidy up & make sure nothing is missing?

Doubt very much if theres any hotfooting back, seems very odd to me he gave up his citizenship awhile ago, makes me wonder if he was tipped a wink.

Accyexplorer 16-08-2014 09:15

Re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 
New series starting tomorrow, 9pm, CI channel (Sky 553/Virgin 237).
Episode guide here - Crime and Investigation Channel
Should be a interesting watch if I'm not busy, the first one is about jimmy sav.

Less 16-08-2014 09:46

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Originally Posted by Aussie Irene (Post 1113481)
Less, i was referring to what Margaret had written in her post.

I read it, didn't think it had a female bias to it, just her usual common sense.

davebtelford 16-08-2014 12:04

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"Conservative MP Nigel Evans says questions must be answered about Sir Cliff's claims the media knew about the search before he did."

Well if Nigel Evans is on his side I'm absolutely sure Cliff is pure as the driven snow.:rolleyes:

Accyexplorer 16-08-2014 12:17

Re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 
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Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 1113504)
"Conservative MP Nigel Evans says questions must be answered about Sir Cliff's claims the media knew about the search before he did."

Well if Nigel Evans is on his side I'm absolutely sure Cliff is pure as the driven snow.:rolleyes:

Hmmm ;)

I'm surprised esta rancid and tribe haven't been out in support for cliff yet :(

Less 16-08-2014 12:20

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1113506)
Hmmm ;)

I'm surprised esta rancid and tribe haven't been out in support for cliff yet :(

Don't you love to dig up and stir the past?
Have you anything actually worth saying?
Hmmmm.

Margaret Pilkington 16-08-2014 15:22

Re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1113489)
I thought you was neologist at first......

....everyday has the potential to be a school day on Accyweb :D

Me a neologist?
No.....I'm nowhere near good enough to be one of those...the only made up word I know is 'imbuggerance'.......something that Ma uses a lot....but I have never ever heard it used by anyone out of our family.

Accyexplorer 16-08-2014 15:44

Re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1113532)
Me a neologist?
No.....I'm nowhere near good enough to be one of those...the only made up word I know is 'imbuggerance'.......something that Ma uses a lot....but I have never ever heard it used by anyone out of our family.

Perhaps "Ma" Is saying embuggerance? not the end of the world, but the world would be better without it.....

....kinda how one could describe jimmy savile ;)

Less 16-08-2014 16:38

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1113537)
Perhaps "Ma" Is saying embuggerance? not the end of the world, but the world would be better without it.....

....kinda how one could describe jimmy savile ;)

Hmmmm, or other words that are just filling up space because I want to say something...

Accyexplorer 16-08-2014 18:14

Re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1113544)
Hmmmm, or other words that are just filling up space because I want to say something...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc

accyman 16-08-2014 18:55

Re: Allegations about Jimmy Saville: covered up?
 
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Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 1113504)
"Conservative MP Nigel Evans says questions must be answered about Sir Cliff's claims the media knew about the search before he did."

Well if Nigel Evans is on his side I'm absolutely sure Cliff is pure as the driven snow.:rolleyes:

whoa hang on a second whats a MP doing blabbing his gob off when there hasnt been an investigation into pedopholia and sexual assault claims within/about government yet


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