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Didn't think it was Jaysay but thanks for that.

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Again, don't worry about it. It, really not being of any great importance.

There are threads about it, if you really want to know all the ins, and outs.

Basically it goes up the longer you're here, and if people give you karma...I think.

Who cares?

Like Cashy said, until you can spend it, who really gives a flying fox?

http://www.futanaripalace.com/images...smilies-18.gif

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Just switched on can't believe all the fuss

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What fuss:rolleyes:

Perhaps you could start a thread entitled:-

"Remember when science threw off the reputation of being witchcraft and how come some people are so keen to take us back to the dark ages"?

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No names no pack drill Less:rolleyes:

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Good idea Less. Have just started reading a book called Superstition: belief in the age of of science by Robert L Park which deals with that very topic. Perhaps when I've finished it I'll be back with some more ideas.

By the way I've just read your first blog from way back when so have a good idea of where you're coming from.

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I am in agreement with you Less. No-one will force you to believe any theory....but if you do not have the information, then it follows that you cannot make a choice as to whether to believe what has been theorised about.
Scientists also publish theories which at a later date turn out ot be unfounded and maybe even ridiculous, but because they are propounded by a scientist the general population believe what they are being told.

There has to be some kind of balance......and whatever susie123 thinks, it does not advance her argument/discussion to call another member a nutter.

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Just depends who she was calling, I've been called worse:rolleyes:

No Margaret you are not agreeing with me, you are defending the right for someone to spread bullshine, there are plenty of nutters out there on the www, that post with no thought of consquence, when we have a homegrown one posting such carp on site they need to be put firmly in their place.
As for your comment about scientists and their theories you are wrong, when a scientist puts forward an unsupported theory they usually state it as such or face ridicule from their peers.
A theory until it becomes proven fact is just that, a theory. It only becomes accepted once it is proven.

By the way would anyone care to contribute towards my personal gas mantel? It is at the moment only in the theory stage as I can't quite get around the diet of brussel sprouts only and I can't yet produce a universal fitting that will allow people to take advantage of the gasses and still manage to talk out of their backsides, (one thing though, it will be EMF compatable).

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Well, Less you are entitled to your own opinion...and entitled to post that opinion.
Scientists do publish theories(I never mentioned whether they were supported or not - they have to have some kind of support to do the research)which later turn out to be wrong....that isn't my opinion, it is fact.

We see reported weekly that such and such a scientist, at such and such a University has evidence that Broccoli makes your nose grow bigger....the following week we have yet another academic who goes on to prove that it doesn't. Both of these academics must have had support...but their research gives conflicting information....but you have the choice of which bit to believe. I know I have used a ridiculous analogy......it is only there to illustrate my point.

What you consider to be bullshine, may not be so to other people...they are able to
make their own decisions and choices....and even if the majority believe it is bullshine, again, at some point in the future it may turn out to have some truth in it...like the 'old wives tales'.
On a lighter note, I am sorry you are having so much difficulty in getting your research into a universal fitting to allow you to make use of all that gas....this is because like people anus's(or should that be ani?....I'm not sure, but I think some clever clogs out there will tell me) come in so many different sizes!

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Margaret I did not call another member a nutter. If you read the original thread the exchange went like this:

Originally Posted by MargaretR:
Was your degree from Sussex Uni in psychiatry?
If not, how do you qualify to say who and who isn't sane/normal?

My reply: Doesn't take a degree in psychiatry to recognise a nutter when you meet one.

What I said was meant to be a general remark about nutters, not aimed at anyone in particular. If anyone chooses to take it personally that's their problem.

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Susie, it may not have been your intention to call a member a nutter...and no you didn't actually call MargaretR a nutter, but the inference was there.

The internet is not a good medium to get the subtle nuances across. I know that if you had said the same about me that is how I would have interpreted it....and telling someone that if they take a comment personally 'it is their problem' is not conducive to good forum relations...but then maybe you don't care very much about that.

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I also gave my first ever dose of red karma to someone last week - with explanation, username and real name -never expected to ever send any to be honest but was pretty angry about something I read and it was an instant reaction.
Lo and behold a short time later that day I received some back for the first time too - i don't know how many points I got deducted and haven't worked out how you can verify who sent it, despite G's explanation to Susie on this thread...no nasty words but no signature which I think is pretty cowardly. Wrote to Neil about it as the person said i had broken forum rules so was a tad anxious about reprisals but he told me just to ignore whoever it was -which i did...(Thanks again Neil!) I wasn't bothered about receiving the red stuff -just the fact that it was done in a snide way. If you think someone deserves it then at least have the strenghth of your own conviction to sign it when you send it...

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Never Let The Beastly Garinda Ye Dupe!;):D

I suggest that Michael write a PM to Cashy as I did a while back to ask him what it means - it is just SO.... Cashy!!:)

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I think you may have got the red stuff for lapsing into a foreign language......it does contravene forum rules.
I always sign mine, and I always give myself at least an hour to mull over whether I am being fair or not.....if I still feel after an hour that the post deserves red stuff then I give it and sign it I want the person receiving it to know who and why.
I know Karma doesn't mean anything very much....you can't spend it, it won't pay the gas or the electric.....but yet! Anyway I even thank the people who give me red stuff....it shows that my post was read, and provoked a response......which is good for the forum.

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Just been told what the initials stand for. Thanks, M!

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Wow Mobertol you've been on here four years and only just had your first red karma? It only took me three weeks. You must be a much nicer person than me!! ;)

That is exactly the reason you don't have tp sign karma, not just the red stuff but also the green as well, there is nothing worse to me than someone just giving karma tit for tat, Ooh he/she gave me karma must do the same, pathetic!
Under no circumstamces is it cowardly not to sign it, if you have given it right then that will often infuriate the receiver into guessing who gave it to them, then with their petty revenge they remove karma from their suspected culprit, (and of course they sign it because they are better than that person,(not)). Oh how I laugh at their high horse antics when they make the mistake of wrongly accusing me, do I tjen reciprocate? Nah, they've just proved themselves unworthy of a reaction.

Hey Mr. Mod any way of posting this anonomously?
I have a fear of the red stuff this might bring me, both signed & unsigned.

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Less, Karma means nothing...and you know that...You in fear of red karma??????
Now that is funny.
Just because some members play the tit for tat game doesn't mean that everyone does it.

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Join date 4 yrs ago - then dropped out till this summer! Since then there's no stopping me ( verbal diahorrea!) - we have a scientific training in common by the way.

I joined originally to play the Accywebbers quiz against my mum (Aromaanne).

Have made some good friends on here and there's always something interesting to research or read...don't just stick to nostalgia and don't be scared to write what comes to you naturally because of what happened - I cringe at some of the things i've written sometimes -have learned it's best not to go back and read things! Just be yourself and you'll find lots of others with common interests and ties.

I know there's a thread about what you're reading at the moment but have been trying to work out if there was some way to start up a sort of book club on here - i love reading and it would be nice to be able to talk about books to other people... (Margaret is a big reader too I believe...) perhaps it's something to think about.

Keep posting!:hothothot

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I do miss him, it was so much fun giving him unsigned red, like a double kick in the backside :D:D:D


That of course was before I had my brain removed and became a moderator, I would never get involved in such petty things any more, well not as often as I used to :rofl38:

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Haha, I like how you ask garinda for an idiots guide, you know him so well already :rofl38:

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Dearest Less -where have you been? Lost in Boloxnia perhaps...

No red karma from me for this, am so glad to hear from you again - did you receive the green I sent you a while back - cried myself to sleep when it wasn't returned;) Naughty,naughty...

Must go, my friend Gina Loopybrigida needs her daily airing - it is so hard being the most beautiful woman in the world -but someone has to do it....:rolleyes::D I know you are a fan for sure....

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Yes I had noticed you posting fairly often in the three weeks I have been a member - and wondered how you'd amassed less than a thousand posts. Good luck with the book club idea though it's not really my thing - I like reading but not really keen on discussing books.

There's no way I'll let this put me off posting - I started with nostalgia because I'm interested in local history and had a lot to say - so watch out everyone!

Cheers

Sue

PS would be interested to know more about your science background - not many people admit to having one! Pm me if you like.

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That is the most hilarious post I've seen in a while :D
I can't decide whether you are being sarcastic to our resident misogynist, or whether you are just misguided.
Either way - thanks for the chuckle.

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Love Less to bits Margaret he's just so..... well..... Less!:rolleyes::D

(PS No-one loves women more than Less..... What sarcasm?)

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Pah.

I laugh in both your faces.

It took your's truly three whole minutes.

:D

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Everyone should have one good laugh every day.

I've not been on out of sympathy for Bee, I told him let me know as soon as your ban is lifted and I'll start posting again.
The little shishter never got in touch and has been posting for a fortnight!

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Wouldn't brag about being too quick G, it's not something we girls appreciate....;):D

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...and that's only because it was the midddle of the night, and there weren't that many people online.

:p:eek::p

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Tsk -will have to send him some red karma for coming between us...:rolleyes:

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In that case.

It wasn't true.

It was three seconds.

See ya.

;)

(Phew, another lucky escape.)

:D

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Don't be so sure - as Liz Taylor so wisely said:

"It's not the having, it's the getting!" ;):D

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Who did she make that threat to, Lena Jolly-Bridgier?

:rolleyes::D

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Not a threat surely just a wee provocation.:rolleyes::)

She was a real go-getter our Liz, knew what she wanted and Whammy! She might have given Gina a few hints along the way -will have to ask her....

She also said "Big girls like big diamonds" - now there's a woman with her priorities sorted;):D

From what I understand quite a few of the feminine ilk suffer this, that's why panty liners were invented.
(Not you mags I'm sure you've read somewhere on the internet that this is some masculine plan to extract the pee).

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Hah! Pull the other one!!

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Less, Less, Less I despair of you -when will you learn to avoid certain topics of conversation while trying to flirt with those of the feminine ilk..:eek:

It will not do. Am tempted to press the Red karma button....

Less is more...I think I've already tried to impart this to you in the past.

I see we're back to square one, that Bee certainly has a lot to answer for in keeping us apart for all this time!

So much work still needs to be done, I do hope you are not a hope-less case.

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the fact that this thread has been bouncing along since 24/03/2005 indicates a polarisation of views on this subject.
It would make it more real if the points could actualy do something apart from give people the hump over red ones.
Lets be able to cash in the points for prizes(what do points make, prizes) an people who issue red ones have to do community sevice.


I think I just took the argument too far, so I am off to a darkened room and will await the arrival of the red ones.

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I tried cashing mine in with my Tesco clubcard but they referred me to Asda.

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Na ya just give red warnings now:D

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Lol, we did actually used to have forum currency, called Ackers.

I bet all mine on an outsider, in the betting shop, yes there was one.

I was an Acker millionaire. I'm still smarting, after the great crash, and they were devalued overnight.

Bookies, banks, pet shops, people who'd try and nick 'em...all great fun.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ers-11389.html

:D

Yes and you could also steal them if someone kept them on show, I remember Park someone or other getting upset when I stole a couple of his thousands, he never forgave me even though I gave them back to him.
The best thief though must have been Staggeringman.

Those were the days!

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Staggeringman?

Was that his actual username?

I presumed he was called Dick Turpin.

A legend acker robber.

:D

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That is a downside to the job

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And there was me thinking you enjoyed it:D

Real name?
I seem to remember it was Oi you pour us some ale and be quick about it.
He would go out of his way at an accyweb meet by force feeding us food rather than actually work behind the bar.
Anyone remember the large pile of pizzas we had to go through one evening?
Or
Perhaps how he force fed us with haggis?
Maybe some will remember the Sunday walk we went on? It ****ed down but we eventually got back to the pub were given hot towels then treated to a large pile of hot dogs?

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Remember the pile of pizzas.

I skipped that walk.

I didn't fancy a drying myself in front of the roaring fire, with that pack of wet, hot, dogs.

:D

funny how even the most rancid of smells brings it all back, pass me the bucket.

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I've just received two karmas for one post. One red, and one green.

How does this affect my standing on the Forum? Is it worse for getting a red, better for getting a green, or is it neutral?

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don't affect it at all, i get loads of each n it dont affect me.:D

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it means you're a pratt and should stop being vindictive

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Ah but one who snipes n PMs people to do so,when in opposition, then hides away when boots on the other foot, could also be viewed as vindictive.;)

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Thinking about this,it could also be regarded as Cowardly by some people.:rolleyes:

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Again damned if ya do and damned if ya don't

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Rubbish,standards should never be a two way street.

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I have recieved a PM from a member apologising for offending me.
It seems that some devious person gave him red karma and signed it with my name.

This exposes the karma to be no more than a divisive, childishly petty system which is open to abuse (which more than likely was the reason it was devised):rolleyes:

I refuse to acknowledge the existance of 'karma' any more, and will not be awarding any from now on.

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Not totally sure, but think that's a bannable offence, and the person should report it to the moderators.

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How can the mods know who did it?

I think you are correct, a quick P.M. To the mods with details can have them checking who actually sent it.

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Moderators can see who sends karma messages, even though the recipient can't.


That's how they can, and do, deal with karma messages that break forum rules, by swearing, or are offensive etc., which again, is against forum rules.

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Thank you - i will PM the person who received it and draw their attention here

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That's probably a bettter explanation.

When offensive karma messages are reported, the mods have the ability to find out who it was from, and deal with the matter how they see fit.

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This still leaves the system open to abuse - if that karma recipient had not PM'd me, I and he, would never have known the deception.

I still think it is designed to produce discord so will stick with my decision to abandon using it.

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If the deviousness has been exposed and the offender is sorted out then i think you should carry on using Karma Margaret, don't let the odd rotten apple spoil the barrel...

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I must apologise...iv messaged the wrong Margaret...what a fool, sorry

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Margaret, I cannot believe that you would allow yourself to be manipulated by another member on here.

The person may have been trying to get a rise out of you.....and you have allowed them to.
Not what I would expect from you at all. As Cashy says in his signature 'Don't let the b's grind you down.'

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After having a look into it I must agree with you this time :p

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so it was me you meant to message then?

I would not have seen this if Neil had not quoted it.

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So thats it solved.

It has made me aware of how open to misuse, and divisive it is.

I still say I wont be using it again. It detracts from the good neighbourly feeling that a local forum should encourage.

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Totally agree Rindi, wonder which spineless wonder did that

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Ya Margaret, but with you bringing this up, no doubt there are people on the site who don't know they can be traced, by airing this you have done the site a big favour

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Which to my mind,yeh are being as childish n petty,as the person yeh stated did this, can understand yeh having the hump,but taking yer ball home is just as childish. imho.

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I think the karma system is childish.
You can all keep your ball.
I choose not to play - as is my right.

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It sure is you cart on.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38 :

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I think the thing that annoys me more is people who DON'T sign green Kalma, as you can't thank them, I usually look at my karma list a couple of times a week and offer thanks accordingly, I've received two recently unnamed but thanks anyway, as for red I gave over bothering ever since Jambutty made a song and dance about it:D

There are times, (at least once a day), when I wish you chose the same for the rest of AccyWeb.

(Where's that wall the humourless old so & so will be bitching again).

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I don't sign the karma I give because I don't want anyone to feel obliged to give some back...I'm like an anonymous benefactor!!! I've never yet given any red karma, I'd have to be REALLY upset for that.
I don't even know when I get karma (green or red) I just notice that the score changes - am I right in thinking that you only know if you've received some if the giver sends a message with it?

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If you go to your profile page, the Karma that you have received will be under the threads you are currently subscribed to.......Red is negative, grey means the person who gave it hasn't built up much rep yet, green is the stuff that boost your own rep.

I do not give Karma to get it back from the person I gave it to....I give it if and when I feel that the poster has made a point that is interesting/valid/or in line with what I think about the subject myself.

I have only give 8 'portions' of negative Karma in seven years of being a member.
I never give the red stuff unless the poster really warrants it(and I usually think it over before giving it).......never for just a difference of opinion......more often for posts that are unreadable due to bad english.
I like Karma to be signed(personal taste), but only so that I can acknowledge it with thanks to the person who gave it to me

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Thanks, Margaret. I didn't know you could do that - first time I've seen that page!

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Steve, click on my profile, a page will come up showing when you got karma and any messages with it. It still comes up even if not signed - I know, I have got 2 lots, ?possibly one of them from you? :)

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I am always happy to help(when I can, that is). :)

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For some reason I've never clicked on the My Profile tab before. You've only been on here 2 minutes and you know more than me!! I occasionally put a message like "There you go..." but not sign it. Usually I don't even bother with a message.....I've probably given you lots, haha!

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I'm so vain, I click on it every day! Actually just like looking at that little dog in my profile picture.:)

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I didn't know where karma was posted for a while when I first joined, think it was cashy who pointed me in the right direction, so he is useful for some things:D:D

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I have a Green Karma that says N/A under thread and nothing in the comment box. from 12-04-2012 21:30 thanks to whoever gave it to me :)

Does this mean the thread was deleted and/or the member banned ???

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Ya know Restless the N/A obviously stands for not applicable, but I've had that and ain't a clue where it came from:confused:

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I had something similar recently and yes the thread was deleted but I don't think the person who gave me the karma was banned - can't say for certain as the K was unsigned.

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How do you know how much karma you've got? You can see the last 10 additions but is there a total somewhere(of green and red)?

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If you go to my profile then look at 'latest karma results' next to that is your total karma points.
Don't ask about the green & red power squares, even Roy has forgotten the value of each square.
:alright:

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On my control panel page there is total number of points at the right on the same line as total karma received, ie green minus red. Divide this by 50 gives you your rep power.

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Thanks susie, never noticed that before.
Well we ignore the red anyway, don't we?

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Nice theory but I think you'll find it doesn't really work.
WAaaay back at the beginning it worked similar to that, however, nine years later, I think some have broken the power barrier, I suspect that karma powe got to a certain level and blew it's little mind, saying I canny tec' it any more Captain she's going to blow!
After all, if with the power it claims I have for example, if I gave a newbie karma, their power would go through the roof. Similarly if I took karma (though that was always set so you could only take half as much as you can give), it could put the same newbie so far into the red they would take years to get out.
Probably a safety margin Roy put in one drunk & sleepless night that he worked on the site, that's why he can't remember the true value.

:)

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That's what Roy said when he knew what it was about, I don't suppose back then how high some peoples karma points would get, so after various modifictions the maths has gone awry.

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Do you unlock some great accyweb secret part of forum when you get so much karma ? (or any other specific reason for having it on forum)

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No nothing exciting like that, I thinks its just there so that members can annoy each other with it for the amusement of Roy

That just about sums it up.
Revenge for all the emails, pm's & text messages he gets in the middle of the night, if AccyWeb goes down, it might be 5 in the evening here but it could be 3 in the morning, where ever in the world he happens to be.
(just a tip, if the site is down, don't worry, no need to send him or the mods a message, he already gets automatic calls to his mobile to let him know if the servers are playing about).

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Well I'm glad I'm in the red, it means i can say what I want without worrying about depreciation of my green karma! I do think that if someone is banned they have to forfeight a large percentage of their green karma - hey Less! :rolleyes: