HORSE CHESTNUT TREE IN CHRIST CHURCH GROUNDS.
 

There is a beautiful, very large, horse chestnut tree in the grounds of Christ Church. Apparently because there has been recent mention in the local paper about diseases in this type of tree, the church people have contacted Hyndburn Council to have it checked out. They say it does NOT have the disease but is unsafe.  They are talking of cutting the tree down.   This is awful!  How can I find out about getting some expert advice on this - we have to fight this!  It has been there for over a hundred years and is part of the conservation area.  How do you go about getting a preservation order on a tree?   (of course we do realise that if the tree really is unsafe, then there is no option but to fell it)
Atarah

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Not seen the tree, but being in a conservation area means nothing to a tree. They naturally, from small acorns or such, grow, mature, die and fall over.
The trick is for them to fall over safely.
However, local authorities and landowners would seem to be ering on the side of caution - if in doubt, chop it down.
On past experience with the local officials, a second opinion would not go amiss.
And a few prayers on Sunday.

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Surely we can accept that a statement from a Vicar is the truth and that the tree is a possible hazard. Remember that we are now in an era of litigation.

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Thanks to my two replies.  It has been condemned because of rot at the junction of the Y-shaped conker tree.  The Council were only asked to check the tree out following recent disclosures that similar trees in the area had a disease.  They now say this tree is rotting where two branches had been previously lopped off.  The wood is very soft there.  But ... surely, a lovely old tree as this should be given at least someone else's opinion. The tree looks beautiful, no sign of anything wrong at all. The leaves are green, the conkers are now growing. I have heard there is such a thing as cutting the problem bark away and filling with a special type of filler.  Anyone ever also heard of this?  In the meantime, I will think on this one.
Atarah   ???

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I agree with you atarah it is a great shame if they cut the tree down :o

katy

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sorry, it's not quite in theme but I was wondering the other day, are there any normal chestnut trees in Accrington or just Horse Chestnuts? Does anyone know? It just popped into my head as the chestnut and new wine season is about to start here, and I don't remember having ever eaten chestnuts in England.

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No Chestnuts - you poor girl!

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young girl fell out of chestnut tree last week and ended up in pendlebury hospital happened in milnshaw park near me. she was in a bad way so i believe.

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Read about that one Janet.And it is in the Accy Observer site, for definate this time.Double checked.Surely when a tree reaches a certain age it is protected.Reckon Cazzer would be the one to get on to about this.She is either well informed or knows exactly where to get the proper info from.Surely if the roots are well stabilised and healthy it would be ok.
Jo after being in the old country last month i saw a lot of chestnuts.
Mostly accompanied by good looking females :-[
Gotta go wife is reading obver my shoulder.
Ow this is killing me
somebody call the police
Wo she has got the carving knife out.Thats it me off.If you do not hear off me then you are all invited to the cremation.
Ow. Ow Ow

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All I know is what I got from the Telegraph a couple of months ago.

The tree is in a conservation area, and is subject to a preservation order. But after  other trees nearby, and in other parts of Hyndburn were condemned due to disease, the Vicar decided to call in the council. When it was checked they found it was diseased, but not with the same fungal disease that caused the other ones to be  condemned. It is apparently decaying  internally.

Whilst the tree could potentially last for a long time yet, there is the possibility that it could collapse without warning, and it is being felled on safety grounds.

It is supposed to be felled sometime between October & March, so let's hope there isn't an accident during the conker season.

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My uncle is a tree doctor in Accy. Didn't no such things existed til he became one, I think it's a cool job.

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Does he have a local branch then??

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[quote author=Jo link=board=qanda;num=1059353313;start=0#10 date=09/24/03 at 13:44:42]My uncle is a tree doctor in Accy. Didn't no such things existed til he became one, I think it's a cool job.[/quote]
Surprised you've only just twigged that one Jo! ;D

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ha ha ha LOVL.   ;D ;D
Made me laugh did those. Anyway, yes he does have a branch in Accy, is there quite in teh early morning, but always LEAVES quite soon - but then he WOOD, woodn't he, has he's out doing surgery on the trees most of the day!

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Suppose it's a quite fruitful occupation then?  :)

Bet he always gets to the root of the problem when he's called out!  ;D

Does he have many knotty probs that he can't solve?  :)

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Cazzer, you're cracking me up!! :D :D

It is hard work, but he says he'll STICK it out while he can. Sleeps like a LOG at nights though, after he's drunk his NESTlé hot chocolate!

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I suppose you both had to squirrel that one in.Must be a fruitfull job especially in the summer? [smiley=lol.gif]

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No, in the Summer he packs up his TRUNK and sets off on holiday. Has a Spanish BIRD in Mallorca he visits!!

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I walk in the churchyard of the church in question every morning with my dog.......as far as I am concerned it would be a terrible shame to fell such a beautiful tree......... :-X  :'(  :'(  :'(

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We need to be loking after our trees NOT chopping them down.

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so true anne >:(

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I agree it is a shame to see beautiful trees disappear.
The tree in question has been there almost as long as the Church, and is apparently subject to a preservation order, so I doubt the council are making this decision lightly.

Safety has to be the paramount issue here, especially as it is a conker tree and a magnet to children.

Plus as Owd Bert says:
"remember that we are now in an era of litigation"

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If the tree as become a danger, then Iam sure the tree wont mind haveing to go. All living things must come to an end sometime. I do hope they are going to plant a new tree in it's place though.

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Hopefully they will.

It seems the ashes of a former Vicar, and also his 2 children who died in a car crash, are buried at that spot.

:)

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It is such a ashame if the tree has to go it is as others have said a lovely tree  :'(

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[quote author=janet link=board=qanda;num=1059353313;start=0#7 date=09/23/03 at 14:39:23]young girl fell out of chestnut tree last week and ended up in pendlebury hospital happened in milnshaw park near me. she was in a bad way so i believe.[/quote]

This young girl was my brother best friend at school.  She fell from the tree right on her head, had a kidney removed and can't eat, talk a little bit and hopefully is inproving everyday.

My brother is distraut, his class mates made a tape for her and he is not on it as he has just been on holiday to Majorca.  It really has hit him hard!  :'(

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read about it in accy observer last week i suppose in a way she was lucky, could have been a lot worse. hope that she makes a full recovery.

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Hi, the Council were in the churchyard today, felling the tree.  I asked the guy was the whole tree going and he said yes, but.. they have gone, swept up I must add!!!!! and left part of it still standing.  Whether or not they will be back tomorrow to finish off, je ne sais pas!
What a shame
Atarah

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What`s all this then ??? -- je ne sais pas

Come on Atarah -- I only went to an Elementary School.

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I think it's french...

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I think it means ich weiss es nicht. ;D

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Is that, Let them do their worst. jo.

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What's that in Swalili?

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but to get back to the matter in hand...........whats happening to the tree they cut down? Has it died of old age or is it diseased, in which case the wood has to be destroyed. And if that is the case, why has the council left a bit?

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Tealeaf, you must live near the church then.  I wonder where you live???????  The tree did NOT have a disease, it was just decaying, or so they say, I hope they were correct, cos all the wood they chopped down looked in pretty good condition to me.  (not than I am an expert of course)

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I think it was a case of the branch the young girl was on was rotting and so was weak and that it how she fell out (I think?!  :-/ )  So they have probably had to take it down hance stopping other children climbing it and having the same happen to them.   ???

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Dizzy, you have gotten the tree mixed up. The tree that the young girl fell out of was in milnshaw park not christ church.

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the  tree has been choped

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:-[ Ooops! Sorry!  Now you know why they call me Diz?!?  ;D

PHOTO OF THE TREE
 

Hi, I now have a photo of the beautiful tree they have chopped down in the grounds of Christ Church. It does look strange without it!
Photo with compliments of Owd Bert - taken October 2003