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Ski 03-02-2008 13:15

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I am looking for a building to run an indoor archery range / club.

I want to make archery in the North West a popular sport with the possibility of the 2012 Olympic Archer representing Britain coming from Lancashire.

The building has to be a minimum of 30 metres long and 25 meters wide or bigger.

The only thing I have found is an industrial unit with the annual rent and business rates of around £100K per annum. (Far too costly)

If anyone has a building or has knowledge of someone who can help please let me know.

Many thanks

Ski.

Retlaw 03-02-2008 13:50

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Whats wrong with the local council chamber, preferably when their having a meeting.
Sorry I couldn't resit it.
Retlaw.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ski (Post 526157)
I am looking for a building to run an indoor archery range / club.

I want to make archery in the North West a popular sport with the possibility of the 2012 Olympic Archer representing Britain coming from Lancashire.

The building has to be a minimum of 30 metres long and 25 meters wide or bigger.

The only thing I have found is an industrial unit with the annual rent and business rates of around £100K per annum. (Far too costly)

If anyone has a building or has knowledge of someone who can help please let me know.

Many thanks

Ski.


MargaretR 03-02-2008 14:00

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Our country has a proud history of having the best archers in Europe, who saved the day in many a battle.
I am glad that it was restored to Olympic status as a sport (we have a good chance of getting medals here :D)

I have never known it to be practiced indoors
Doesn't part of the archery skill involve compensating for outdoor wind strength and direction?

Sara 03-02-2008 14:22

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I use to practice archery many moons ago at the New Era, so i'm wondering could you maybe not hire a room at the sports centre. Would be a lot cheaper then 100k

Ski 03-02-2008 14:38

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 526174)
Our country has a proud history of having the best archers in Europe, who saved the day in many a battle.
I am glad that it was restored to Olympic status as a sport (we have a good chance of getting medals here :D)

I have never known it to be practiced indoors
Doesn't part of the archery skill involve compensating for outdoor wind strength and direction?

Archery is very much practiced indoors, especially in the UK.

As you are aware British weather is not the kindest to outdoor sports and the North West has lakes, green lush grass and reservoirs due to its consistent rainfall. Spending 2 -3 hours a day exposed to the elements is not conducive to training. This is why indoor ranges are used. Yes you can only shoot distances of 20 -40 yards, where as in competitions men are required to shoot up 100 yards. This is not too much of a problem as the techniques and equipment is pretty much identical.

The problem is finding a building suitable. There is very little financial support for this – hence no indoor archery clubs in the area.


Ski 03-02-2008 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sara (Post 526183)
I use to practice archery many moons ago at the New Era, so i'm wondering could you maybe not hire a room at the sports centre. Would be a lot cheaper then 100k

Sports centres usually cost £50 / hour if you supply all your own equipment. You need a Transit van and 30 minutes to set up.

We Hire Hyndburn Sports Centre once a year for our indoor championships. All day costs in excess of £600.

Hence the need for a building set up ready.

Gayle 03-02-2008 14:46

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Have you considered applying for some funding?

Ski 03-02-2008 15:00

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 526198)
Have you considered applying for some funding?

Yep been there. The most available is £6K, from two different sources.
Many are interested but funding is extreamly limited. Until there is already something set up and is a growing concern, no one can offer much.

This is why I am so frustrated.

I know it will work, but cannot get it off the ground.
All units are expensive, and will need planning permission for change of use.

Sara 03-02-2008 15:01

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[quote=Ski;526195]Sports centres usually cost £50 / hour if you supply all your own equipment. You need a Transit van and 30 minutes to set up.

We Hire Hyndburn Sports Centre once a year for our indoor championships. All day costs in excess of £600.

quote]

Ouch, that is expensive.

Ski 03-02-2008 15:04

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[quote=Sara;526210]
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Originally Posted by Ski (Post 526195)
Sports centres usually cost £50 / hour if you supply all your own equipment. You need a Transit van and 30 minutes to set up.

We Hire Hyndburn Sports Centre once a year for our indoor championships. All day costs in excess of £600.

quote]

Ouch, that is expensive.

Yep- That is why I am looking for a building - old barn, indoor equestrian centre, farm building, garage, anything substantial to get it started.

Ski 03-02-2008 15:08

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A School hall can be used if we can store equipment there and have use of it most evenings and weekends, just to get started.

Any suggestions???????????

polly 03-02-2008 15:12

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I think West End Youth Club in Blackburn Town Centre would be large enough but you would have to check. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper than 600 pounds.

Ski 03-02-2008 15:20

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Originally Posted by polly (Post 526218)
I think West End Youth Club in Blackburn Town Centre would be large enough but you would have to check. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper than 600 pounds.

Do you have any contact details.

I will look into it.

Thank you.
Ski

Gayle 03-02-2008 15:31

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Why don't you try New Era again?

MargaretR 03-02-2008 15:45

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Golf driving practice ranges have participants under cover and the targets in the open air.
It would need a much smaller building with one open side
just a lateral thought that might be of use

Ski 03-02-2008 15:48

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 526228)
Why don't you try New Era again?

I will look into it, but nobody wants to fund anything until it is already up and running.

I want to Hyndburn to have the Archery equivalent of The Manchester Velodrome.

Just need either a good sponsor or the backing by Hyndburn to support this.

Gayle 03-02-2008 15:50

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Originally Posted by Ski (Post 526239)
I will look into it, but nobody wants to fund anything until it is already up and running.

I want to Hyndburn to have the Archery equivalent of The Manchester Velodrome.

Just need either a good sponsor or the backing by Hyndburn to support this.

Whilst I think what you're doing is a fantastic idea, why don't you do it on a small scale first to test the market. That way you can establish it and then apply for funding.

There are lots of really big funding pots out there that you could go for once you're established.

polly 03-02-2008 15:51

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Originally Posted by Ski (Post 526224)
Do you have any contact details.

I will look into it.

Thank you.
Ski

West End Youth & Community Centre


maps.google.com

Clayton St
Blackburn, BB2 2ED, United Kingdom
+44 1254 663537

Just an idea cant guarantee anything, but it is a big hall used for Irish dancing and football

Ski 03-02-2008 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 526240)
Whilst I think what you're doing is a fantastic idea, why don't you do it on a small scale first to test the market. That way you can establish it and then apply for funding.

There are lots of really big funding pots out there that you could go for once you're established.

Yes I know, that's why I am looking for a building, if the people on the forum can help and make suggestions it will help me get it off the planning table more quickly.

So far there has been some good info.

I know the support is there.

Just keep it comming.

Thanks to all.

Ski

Ski 03-02-2008 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by polly (Post 526241)
West End Youth & Community Centre


maps.google.com

Clayton St
Blackburn, BB2 2ED, United Kingdom
+44 1254 663537

Just an idea cant guarantee anything, but it is a big hall used for Irish dancing and football


Thank you.

Ski.

:)

mickmc 03-02-2008 16:14

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Why not try the local schools - some of them have large halls and/or sports halls built on

Ski 03-02-2008 20:23

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Originally Posted by mickmc (Post 526245)
Why not try the local schools - some of them have large halls and/or sports halls built on

They are not available during the day and weekend use is limited.

Unless the hall is detached from the school access is a problem due to child protection issues.

blazey 04-02-2008 15:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ski (Post 526157)
I am looking for a building to run an indoor archery range / club.

I want to make archery in the North West a popular sport with the possibility of the 2012 Olympic Archer representing Britain coming from Lancashire.

The building has to be a minimum of 30 metres long and 25 meters wide or bigger.

The only thing I have found is an industrial unit with the annual rent and business rates of around £100K per annum. (Far too costly)

If anyone has a building or has knowledge of someone who can help please let me know.

Many thanks

Ski.

Not too helpful but archery is a very popular thing up here in lancaster, the university have an archery society. The bows are huge! I never realised how big they were. Looks like a lot of fun but it looks too risky for a clumsy person like me!

Ski 05-02-2008 17:18

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 526631)
Not too helpful but archery is a very popular thing up here in lancaster, the university have an archery society. The bows are huge! I never realised how big they were. Looks like a lot of fun but it looks too risky for a clumsy person like me!

Yer Lancaster has a very good club and facilities. Although the bows look quite long they are sized to suit each individual. Unless you have a serious medical condition that impairs your hand eye coordination then after an hour or two, you will soon be shooting with confidence and eradicating you clumsiness.

We have some archers who suffer with Dyspraxia who manage very well..

If you get the opportunity then have a go. Just be careful as it is a very enjoyable and addictive sport.

You can see info on our club here.
bowmen.co.uk

Go on give it a go.

Ski.
;)


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