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cashman 10-09-2008 21:26

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Originally Posted by keetah992000 (Post 629637)
I do agree partly with you west ender there are circumstances where there is no need for it and it could be discriminatory in one way or another but... i do think there is a need for it in some situations.

disagree keetah, should always be "Best Person fer Job" n yeh if its summat down the "moss" the best person is more likely to be west indian, don't see owt wrong wi that, stating it must be, is a dangerous route to take i reckon.

blazey 10-09-2008 23:40

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I can't believe people actually took my comment seriously.

My point when I am sarcastic is generally hinting at 'if we did this, what would the next thing be'.

It never just stops at one change does it.

garinda 10-09-2008 23:45

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Just double checking that there isn't a 'white police association', which of course there isn't, as that would be deemed as racist, I came across this ludicrous nugget.

'Of course, the National Black Police Association claims it is interested only in promoting racial harmony, both within the force and in relations between the police and the public. (It also makes the extraordinary claim on its website, in an attempt to justify its choice of name: 'The definition of "black" does not refer to skin colour.' So what does it refer to then?)'

TOM UTLEY: I'm enough of a wishy-washy liberal to be horrified by some of the Ali G antics of our police | Mail Online

blazey 10-09-2008 23:52

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 629710)
Just double checking that there isn't a 'white police association', which of course there isn't, as that would be deemed as racist, I came across this ludicrous nugget.

'Of course, the National Black Police Association claims it is interested only in promoting racial harmony, both within the force and in relations between the police and the public. (It also makes the extraordinary claim on its website, in an attempt to justify its choice of name: 'The definition of "black" does not refer to skin colour.' So what does it refer to then?)'

TOM UTLEY: I'm enough of a wishy-washy liberal to be horrified by some of the Ali G antics of our police | Mail Online

I was taught my 'English legal systems and methods' module by a feminist this year, who also taught me criminal law... and she clearly was on a mission to slag off men and make them look sexist and terrible at every opportunity, completely disregarding the fact that there are women who have both got to great heights in the legal profession and that have committed the same heinous crimes that men are capable of committing.

I think this type of atitude, particularly when she addressed all the girls in the class and said we WILL be discriminated against, is nothing but damaging and it should be stamped out. Unfortunately there are people that carry on with teaching these kinds of attitudes and I dont think it will ever go away. Shame really.

garinda 10-09-2008 23:58

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629712)
I was taught my 'English legal systems and methods' module by a feminist this year, who also taught me criminal law... and she clearly was on a mission to slag off men and make them look sexist and terrible at every opportunity, completely disregarding the fact that there are women who have both got to great heights in the legal profession and that have committed the same heinous crimes that men are capable of committing.

I think this type of atitude, particularly when she addressed all the girls in the class and said we WILL be discriminated against, is nothing but damaging and it should be stamped out. Unfortunately there are people that carry on with teaching these kinds of attitudes and I dont think it will ever go away. Shame really.

I was taught art history by a hard-line feminist lecturer, for some bizarre reason.

Happily I made mince meat out of her, week after week, term after term.

She did in the end concede that by it's very nature feminism is sexist.

Besides, on the politically correct scale of perceived injustice, I scored more highly than her.:D

mthead 11-09-2008 00:02

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IMHO Its all gone wrong in this country.Every religion and nationality has got the right to shout 'Racial or Religious prejudice' except White or Christians.Where's the sense in that?But thats the law:confused:

blazey 11-09-2008 00:09

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Originally Posted by mthead (Post 629718)
IMHO Its all gone wrong in this country.Every religion and nationality has got the right to shout 'Racial or Religious prejudice' except White or Christians.Where's the sense in that?But thats the law:confused:

Christians actually bicker between their different branches all the time and the reason you never see cases about white people getting discriminated against is because on the whole it doesn't happen as often as minorities are discriminated against.

I think it is worse that people claim they have no rights any more just because they are white. White people don't really have it that bad do they?

I once got accused of being racist by an asian lad at college who had been sexually harassing me. I actually got it written in my college records. Did I feel like a victim? Of course I did, but I didn't think it was because I was white and start banging on about white rights. I just got on with life and it's never been a problem for me again, because if I let it be a problem then it would get in the way of the friendships I have with various other people who aren't white but are still good friends. My point is that too many people let it become an issue for themselves, when in reality it only effects very few people to an extreme point that demands action.

mthead 11-09-2008 00:15

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629722)
Christians actually bicker between their different branches all the time and the reason you never see cases about white people getting discriminated against is because on the whole it doesn't happen as often as minorities are discriminated against.

I think it is worse that people claim they have no rights any more just because they are white. White people don't really have it that bad do they?

I once got accused of being racist by an asian lad at college who had been sexually harassing me. I actually got it written in my college records. Did I feel like a victim? Of course I did, but I didn't think it was because I was white and start banging on about white rights. I just got on with life and it's never been a problem for me again, because if I let it be a problem then it would get in the way of the friendships I have with various other people who aren't white but are still good friends. My point is that too many people let it become an issue for themselves, when in reality it only effects very few people to an extreme point that demands action.

Sorry I disagree and i would post some instances on local ones at that but My posts would get deleted or maybe worse and get banned.So lets leave it at that.Your beliefs or politics are best being discussed when in a debate situation and not on a forum,as if you have certain beliefs thats not allowed :mad:

blazey 11-09-2008 00:19

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Originally Posted by mthead (Post 629723)
Sorry I disagree and i would post some instances on local ones at that but My posts would get deleted or maybe worse and get banned.So lets leave it at that.Your beliefs or politics are best being discussed when in a debate situation and not on a forum,as if you have certain beliefs thats not allowed :mad:

Is a forum not open to debate?

And what do you mean in your last sentence? I've been brought up to respect everyone regardless of their gender, skin colour, religion etc. I was just giving you an example or were the so called 'race card' was played against me and yet I just dealt with it rather than kicking up a fuss.

Life is too short to fight over things we can't change, and race is certainly one of those things. Fighting wars that nobody can win will inevitably lead to destruction that cant be fixed.

garinda 11-09-2008 00:25

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629722)
Christians actually bicker between their different branches all the time

As do other religions too.

Islam for instance, with the various factions at each other's throats, which lead to the Iran/Iraq War.

mthead 11-09-2008 00:26

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629725)
Is a forum not open to debate?

And what do you mean in your last sentence? I've been brought up to respect everyone regardless of their gender, skin colour, religion etc. I was just giving you an example or were the so called 'race card' was played against me and yet I just dealt with it rather than kicking up a fuss.

Life is too short to fight over things we can't change, and race is certainly one of those things. Fighting wars that nobody can win will inevitably lead to destruction that cant be fixed.

A forum open to debate?Depends on what you stand for.
As for as the other thing me personally got jumped by about 6(youths) Ill say no more,for the post getting deleted.And what help did I get?They had cameras but wouldnt give them the police.And no wasnt on a lads night out was out with my Mrs.I have NO TIME for the PC brigade:mad:

garinda 11-09-2008 00:29

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629722)
White people don't really have it that bad do they?

Record number of cases, because of all this perceived racism, would seem to prove otherwise.


White police claim racism | UK news | The Observer

blazey 11-09-2008 00:32

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Originally Posted by mthead (Post 629727)
A forum open to debate?Depends on what you stand for.
As for as the other thing me personally got jumped by about 6(youths) Ill say no more,for the post getting deleted.And what help did I get?They had cameras but wouldnt give them the police.And no wasnt on a lads night out was ot with my Mrs.I have NO TIME for the PC brigade:mad:

Are you saying I'm one of the PC brigade?

I got jumped on new lane when i was at college. By a large group of girls who pinned me down and kicked and punched me in the face. I didn't see them all, they could have been all white or some black, asian or whatever, but all I know is that it hurt and that they did it because they were horrible people regardless of skin colour.

I can't remember who said it now, but they pointed out that when terrorists strike, they can't just kill one race of people and spare the ones they like, they all get hurt or killed. Pain and suffering has no prejudices, we're all affected by it. I feel sorry for you because I know what it is like to be jumped, but I feel for you more if you are to hold prejudices against a race of people just because of a small number of people.

All forums are open to debate, i've never been on one that doesn't have some type of debate going on on it.

garinda 11-09-2008 00:33

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 629722)
My point is that too many people let it become an issue for themselves, when in reality it only effects very few people to an extreme point that demands action.

Just as it is for the vast majority of black, Muslim, gay, disabled, or whatever, who don't wish to alienate themselves from mainstream society, and are quite happy with their place in the larger world.

cashman 11-09-2008 00:34

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 629728)
Record number of cases, because of all this perceived racism, would seem to prove otherwise.


White police claim racism | UK news | The Observer

rindy mate yer arguing with a apprentice " Darrener":D;)


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