Heat sensors/smoke alarms
 

about a month ago Twin Valley Homes Contractors came out and totally re-wired the house, they put several new sockets in each room, light switches and fittings and they decided it would be fun to put new heat sensors in, i totally agree that we needed them in, one was put at the top of the stairs, one at the bottom to replace the old ones AND one in the KITCHEN!!!!

why oh why oh why do they put them in the kitchen? is it to wind Flashy up? do they think they have a sense of humour? everytime i go in the kitchen to make a brew(the kettle is a fair distance from the alarm), the alarms go off, everytime i put the dryer on, the alarms go off, i opened the front door to let someone in the other day ..... and ...the alarms went off, there is nothing at all on in the kitchen at the moment and the alarm has gone off 3 times this morning, i've had the Dyson on them to see if there is any dust on them, there isn't, they still go off

i think TVH are having a laugh



ok rant over

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disconnect it if it's on the mains or take the battery out if not.

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it is mains connected Pete, they are all wired up together, will it not naff the rest up if i do that?

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Might just be the work men were sadists flashy

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only got one in this flat and it un-pluggs from the back

you could try them one at once didn't mean turn them all off.

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THey put the wrong type in the kitchen, plain & simple.

Call them up and get them to come & change it.

Claim its gone faulty if they wont, it should not go off like that.

It should also not be situated close to the cooker.

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Perhaps it's nothing to do with the kettle maybe the sensor just thinks you're 'hot'?
:confused:

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ah i see we've woke up with a sense of humour this morning Less ;)

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its not near the cooker, its at the opposite side of the kitchen

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It sounds faulty Shaz, phone them up and ask them to sort it out.

If they start to mess you around just remind them it is there to save your life in the event of a fire ;)

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Have they put a smoke detector there, one with holes in (looking like the reat) or a heat detector, usually with an aluminium case showing?

A smoke detector is useless in the kitchen for this very reason, only heat detectors shold be fitted & high temperature ones at that.

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so much as put the grill on in my house or make a slice of toast and the smoke alarm in teh hallway goes off.

came home drunk once and decided to make toast and it ended up been a death match between lump hammer vs smoke alarm and teh lump hammer won and ever since then i havnt been bothered at all :D

the rest of the house is smoke alarmed but to put one right next to the kitchen door so sensitive to smoke was just silly.

i since learned i could have simply taken the 9v battery out but if im honest the lump hammer was more fun althouh i do regret the hole in teh ceilng where my first drunken swing missed its target

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Matty its definately a heat detector, its gone off loads since i posted this thread

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Are you sure the house is not on fire and you are being a little slow today :p :D

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:rolleyes:

my brothers just been in and threatened to hit it with a golf club if it doesn't shut up

he lives further down the same street and had his done a few months ago, he was telling me that the other night he was drunk and put something in the oven to cook, he fell asleep, when he woke up the kitchen was full of smoke and the detectors hadn't even gone off, its a good job his gas had gone or he'd not be here now, they've really messed up with these electrics

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Rate of rise heat detectors will not go off with smoke, they look at how quickly the room heats up. In a fire the room will heat up very quickly.

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its stupid whatever sort it is

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Its obviously faulty and not acceptable, DON'T take the battery out or disconnect it or they will blame you for the fault, put up with it and ring them first thing to have it replaced, twin valley are usually very good and should replace it asap. It is very unusual for a heat detector to register false alarms, are you sure its not the smoke detector in the hallway which is over sensitive? either way get them out to it.

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if it starts tonight i'm switching the electric off, i'm not putting up with that din all bloody night

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ITs very likely faulty, get in touch.

They should replace it immediately, too many false alarms give rise to ignoring it & thats when real problems can happen.

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its been going off every 10 minutes for the last 4 hours and its doing my head in, i can't do anything until tomorrow now......hope its not like this all night

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Why not get the fire brigade to check out your home for fire safety and then if they find a faulty smoke alarm...they may replace it for you free of charge...worth a try and at least you will rest easy knowing that you will be a lot safer

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just called the repair line, they are coming out in the next 2 hours

i don't think the fire brigade could do anything Laurie, its an electrical fault

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That is what post 10 said at 11.28 this morning :p

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well he's just been and taken all 3 of them down and said he'd be back in the next couple of days with some new ones, he was here for 2 minutes

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But why don't you still get a fire safety check...you know it makes sense

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I used to do some of the 'one a day' heating installations in blackburn, and from the minute we used blowtorches, all the alarms in the house would be going off, and stayed that way most of the day, because they are mains fed, we couldnt do anything about it, they are very annoying.

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they are Derek, i just hope i don't need the alarms for the next couple of days

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Haha, I aint gonna ask why!

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:eek:




:rolleyes:



:D

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When he returns, insist that he shows you which MCB in the consumer unit they are connected to.

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why, they have rechargeable batteries in them as well

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There will always be cause for alarm when your about shaz:D

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:eek: cheers John lol

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You've got to have a laugh Shaz:D

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SO that if this becomes a recurring problem, they can at least be silenced by removing the mains & the batteries.

You would need to remove the mains first before messing with anything mains powered.

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the guy that came and took them out yesterday didnt turn the electric off, he just took a screwdriver to them and popped them off

and he still hasn't been beck

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If thats then case then they were battery powered ones, he would be for it if he left exposed connections from the mains.
Ring Fire Brigade they will install long life ones for free, in the correct place and will wait whilst you test them.
Retlaw.

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the connections are exposed Retlaw but they have those plastic things over them

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Not being disrespectful to flashy but how would she know she had removed the power?

She did the right thing and phoned Twin Valley, it must have been the right thing to do because it was my idea :rolleyes::D

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I have seen them before where you can remove them by removing a screw and rotating them. They have touch proof connectors on them leaving them safe when removed.

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Most Housing Association install mains powered ones so they don't have to rely on the tenants changing batteries. Some of them are linked together so when one goes off they all do. Good in a fire but a pain in the bum when you get false alarms.

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:rolleyes: every ten minutes for over 4 hours

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cheeky

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Not at all, most people do not know how to and don't have the equipment to safely test a circuit for being live or dead.

You are a pain in the bum but I don't want you dead :rolleyes::D

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yes Neil

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I am glad you agree :p

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Spot on Retlaw, they had to inspect my property and give a full safety check when I was put on long term oxygen therapy, which not only gave me peace of mind but they also installed a ten year fire alarm free of charge

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i had the fire brigade put one in .. they came from accrington and put the one at the top of the stairs ... then either last year or the year before rawtenstall fire brigade knocked on my door and put another one up ... halfway down the stairs .. Anyway the first time the alarm went off was a couple of weeks ago .. from the steam from the shower. So now i know what it sounds like ...

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Steam from the shower Jen, was Spugs home at the time;)

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Its a poor detector installation if steam from the shower sets it off.

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well...not only haven't they brought my alarms back but my electrics keep tripping, went to put the kettle on earlier and it blew, then i noticed that my fridge plug had blown too, turned everything off, unplugged the kettle and the fridge/freezer and turned the electric back on, it was ok till i went into the living room to put the telly on and that plug blew too, surely 3 fuses can't have all gone at the same time, Twin Valley are in for some crap off me tomorrow

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what do you mean by "plugs blowing"?

Did the fuse blow in the plug or the circuit breaker the consumer unit trip off?

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the electric box neil, i've just rung Twin Valley up because the washers gone now

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If the circuit breaker is tripping but the plug fuses are not it points to a cable fault. I am guessing at faulty circuit breaker or a loose terminal screw somewhere.

I would class it as an urgent fault. Will they be out tomorrow?

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nah he was at work!!! :D:D:D

i must be hot stuff .. :D:D:D

it had actually been running for a long time matty .... the whole house was steamed up .. and that was the first time it had gone off in 6 years ... so not too bad that ... just had to get up the stepladders .. and turn it off before the neighbours rang the fire brigade ... :D:D:D

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i made them come out last night Neil, i needed to wash Reece's uniform, he came and changed something over to the other side of the circuit board or something, someone's coming back today to sort it out

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I am guessing he put both upstairs and downstairs ring mains on the same circuit breaker.

The one that was tripping out - was it the same physical size as the others or bigger?

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do you really think i stood there watching the guy whilst he did it?

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Err well:confused: Yes:D

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Before I answer that I will ask a question.

Did he have tight jeans on and a nice bum when he bent over?

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he had a nice pair of jeans on actually, and kept talking to my chest for some strange reason

and even then i didn't stick around to watch what he was doing ;)

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Was he very short? :rolleyes:

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:rolleyes: i had a rather revealing top on :rolleyes:

over 18's here we come

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why are we moving to over 18's, are you posting a picture :p :D

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was listening to the news this morning and it said that about 5000 smoke alarms that Lancashire Fire Brigade had installed needed to be replaced. They should have had a 10 year battery fitted and after 5 years they've started beeping all the time ..meaning that the battery was low ... The boss they were speaking to said they still worked it just meant the battery was low ... and not to take the battery out ..

10 mins later my smoke alarm went off when i was in the shower again.:rolleyes::D:D:D

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just found this ...

BBC News - Fire crews to replace 5,000 beeping smoke alarms

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I bought one of those 10 year ones in 2002 - it only lasted 5 years too.
Looks like the manufacturers need to be less optimistic in their sales patter.

Now I have one that fits into a light socket above the bulb, so it is mains powered.
I know firemen don't approve of them, but it is near the ceiling and is in a chandelier type fitting which doesn't restrict air circulation around it.

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Mains powered smoke alarms have a battery back up in them for chance the electric is off for some reason.