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Guinness 20-10-2012 15:44

Re: Is it just me?
 
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Originally Posted by Chris SUI JURIS (Post 1023534)
SHOULD OF called this the gramer/pronunsiation/dislexea thread ;)

See I'm fine with every single word in that sentence except the second one :)

Ripped the following from an online dictionary

of -
auxiliary verb Pronunciation Spelling .
have: He should of asked me first.

Pronunciation note
Because the preposition of, when unstressed ( a piece of cake ), and the unstressed or contracted auxiliary verb have ( could have gone, could've gone ) are both pronounced [uhv] or [uh] in connected speech, inexperienced writers commonly confuse the two words, spelling have as of ( I would of handed in my book report, but the dog ate it ). Professional writers have been able to exploit this spelling deliberately, especially in fiction, to help represent the speech of the uneducated: If he could of went home, he would of.


Sheesh! I really am a sad old pedant... I'm trolling through a dictionary on a Saturday afternoon?? :o

Chris SUI JURIS 20-10-2012 15:52

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1023562)
See I'm fine with every single word in that sentence except the second one :)

Ripped the following from an online dictionary

of -
auxiliary verb Pronunciation Spelling .
have: He should of asked me first.

Pronunciation note
Because the preposition of, when unstressed ( a piece of cake ), and the unstressed or contracted auxiliary verb have ( could have gone, could've gone ) are both pronounced [uhv] or [uh] in connected speech, inexperienced writers commonly confuse the two words, spelling have as of ( I would of handed in my book report, but the dog ate it ). Professional writers have been able to exploit this spelling deliberately, especially in fiction, to help represent the speech of the uneducated: If he could of went home, he would of.

Sheesh! I really am a sad old pedant... I'm trolling through a dictionary on a Saturday afternoon?? :o

lol get yourself down the local and have a pint,the dictionary can wait ;)

egg&chips 20-10-2012 16:56

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1023542)
It would be a change from the back biting which goes on on here.

I'll remember to wear boots if I change my mind!

A tad harsh Gordon! I'm shocked that anyone could view the forums as anything but a utopian discourse medium filled with mutually respecting soul siblings;)

Sunflower49 20-10-2012 17:15

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1023371)
I'm fine with spelling errors, people not using capitals for proper nouns, grammatical screw ups, slang, local idioms etc.. but what really winds me up is the use of the word OF instead of the word HAVE

There's a thread in general at the moment...

Should OF gone to Specsavers....*mutters profanity under his breath*

I can readily accept 'hav', 'av', or 'ave'....but not 'OF'!! *more profanity*

Is it just me? Am I finally joining the 'grumpy old pedant' brigade?

Nope, it irritates me too, nothing to do with age-I've been a pedant since I was in my teens!
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1023385)
Have you been talking to Susie? This is her main bug ... Maybe you are just filling in for her while she is taking a vacation;)

A lot of this kind of stuff happens when you have a Latin style grammar imposed on a Germanic language ... I could go on for hours about the moribund subjunctive ... but I'll spare youse guys the agony:D But I agree; "shoulda went to Specsavers" would of been better.

If it was typed like that, it wouldn't bother me as it would look to clearly be intentional word play rather than ignorance causing misuse of words!

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 1023396)
Spelling , bad punctuation, basically all bad grammar gets my goat, but we may as well get used to it as teachers only need to get the meaning of what is being conveyed these days. Apparently bad spelling and grammar are not deemed to be important anymore

It's true!In fact, I have even found myself having to think about correct use of words despite my pedantry, because they're written incorrectly SO often!From internet forums and discussions boards, websites, supermarkets, to official documents, letters and formal texts!It' saddens me and really winds me up.

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1023459)
Should've - is the correct way to spell 'should of'

Should've | Easy to understand definition of should've by Your Dictionary

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1023461)
Should have not should of!

Yes should have, 'Should've' been its abbreviation.
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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1023525)
I work in Manchester and a few of my Mancunian colleagues always pronounce have as of.

Pronunciation is different I think. Not everybody pronounces words as they're written-some words are correctly pronounced nothing like they are written.

I use the word 'Mote' quite often. It's got a few different applied meanings.

I like words. Probably why I get irritated at their mistreatment.

Dyslexia is obviously a cause, however I know many people who use it as an excuse. Not saying anybody on here is in that bracket.
My friend is dyslexic and his written words are impeccable-because he has deemed it as important to take time to learn to overcome the problem, and he checks if he isn't sure. Another method of learning.

I am rubbish at mathematics-but I double check if I'm doing something mathematical, do not assume I am correct.

Restless 20-10-2012 18:41

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1023371)
I'm fine with spelling errors, people not using capitals for proper nouns, grammatical screw ups, slang, local idioms etc.. but what really winds me up is the use of the word OF instead of the word HAVE

There's a thread in general at the moment...

Should OF gone to Specsavers....*mutters profanity under his breath*

I can readily accept 'hav', 'av', or 'ave'....but not 'OF'!! *more profanity*

Is it just me? Am I finally joining the 'grumpy old pedant' brigade?

at school we had teachers that ran out crying. Stand-in teachers that told us to "copy from page..." I had to struggle along learning English myself.

Eric 20-10-2012 18:56

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1023593)
at school we had teachers that ran out crying. Stand-in teachers that told us to "copy from page..." I had to struggle along learning English myself.

Never had to struggle to learn English ... I was born and raised in England. But I did have to re-learn a few words and terms when I landed in Canada ... pronunciation was different too: Canadians pronounce "Ottawa" without pronouncing a single "t" ... "Oddawa" ... :D Have to be careful sometimes too ... if you ask someone for a "rubber" instead of an "eraser", you might be handed a condom.:eek: And, to keep on topic, "of" instead of "have" is quite common here.

Oh, and Sugarmouse, it is "If it were typed like that" ... ;) Ah, the subjunctive:D

Gordon Booth 20-10-2012 18:56

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Originally Posted by egg&chips (Post 1023575)
A tad harsh Gordon! I'm shocked that anyone could view the forums as anything but a utopian discourse medium filled with mutually respecting soul siblings;)

A tad harsh?
I promise not to kick you and you threaten to bite my ankle?
A disgrace to your profession!
What's spiritualism and souls got to do with this thread anyway?

Eric 20-10-2012 19:02

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 1023502)
'Mote.' Now you see, that is a word I had never heard of before ... so guess we can teach others something new about the English language ... :D:D

"The Mote in God's Eye", Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle is a fun read ... Oh, and maybe you should of spent more time on Bible study;):D

Less 21-10-2012 10:22

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Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707 (Post 1023581)





Yes should have, 'Should've' been its abbreviation.




I'll see your pedantry and raise it to being rather than been?


:)

Sunflower49 21-10-2012 14:58

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1023667)
I'll see your pedantry and raise it to being rather than been?


:)

Haha true.

I was just er, exemplifying the fact that I see so many mistakes , I pick them up :p

I'll bet, if you were bored enough to watch my posts of a weekend, the sense they make is questionable compared to during the week. Nocturnal living does something to my cognition! :)

heth 21-10-2012 15:16

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The problem I have is that I type as I would talk and for the ones that have met me sometimes that is difficult! :D ;)

I have been told off at work for it!

cashman 21-10-2012 15:20

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 1023727)
The problem I have is that I type as I would talk and for the ones that have met me sometimes that is difficult! :D ;)

I always have typed as i talk.:)

Marl 21-10-2012 15:23

My bug bear is when people say baf instead of bath and fousand instead of thousand...Even Mark the schoolteacher on the chase says fousand instead of thousand and it irritates the hell out of me especially when he is supposed to be so intelligent!!!!!!.

MargaretR 21-10-2012 15:29

Re: Is it just me?
 
I cringe when I hear 'drawring' and 'nothink'

Sunflower49 21-10-2012 15:32

Re: Is it just me?
 
Don't think I've heard the former but hearing folk put a 'K' on the end of nothing/something/everything riles me as well-I usually cannot help but say something(k).

Also people who do that, often say 'Noffink'-not even 'Nothink'......


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