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Less 26-11-2016 16:30

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1182088)
I don't believe it's legal for those shops to sell Halal unless they are sure the customer is buying it for religious reasons.

This is taken from this government website

Ah, but where must they display it?

A chicken shop I used to frequent not far from the Railway, two reasons I stopped using it.

1/ When boss man there the younger assistants polite, when boss missing they treated pale face like the stuff in a blocked toilet.

2/ Just glancing up one time that I was in the queue, (yes, boss was there I'd learnt never to enter if he wasn't), a sign announcing the place is Halal, very small very obscure, more or less hidden in plain view.;)
was on a skylight.

Last time I used the place. Only because, to me halal means unhygienic I got to admit if I can't hear it scream death of a chicken doesn't mean much to me.:o

Neil 26-11-2016 23:30

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Going off that link I posted they have to make sure the purchaser is of the correct religion. Nowhere does and the government are to scared to ban halal slaughter in this country which I think they should

DaveinGermany 27-11-2016 10:44

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1182119)
Going off that link I posted they have to make sure the purchaser is of the correct religion.

Doesn't that then point to positive discrimination? On top of that, I'm pretty sure that Mr.Halal-peddler isn't going to turn down any sort of profit especially if it's coming from a Kuffar. Damn it, he's practically obliged to skin the infidel where he can according to the Alis' snackbar big bumper book of muslim fun & frolics.

Neil 27-11-2016 14:23

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1182124)
Doesn't that then point to positive discrimination? On top of that, I'm pretty sure that Mr.Halal-peddler isn't going to turn down any sort of profit especially if it's coming from a Kuffar. Damn it, he's practically obliged to skin the infidel where he can according to the Alis' snackbar big bumper book of muslim fun & frolics.

All I know is what the government state on their website. To me that means if I am sold Halal someone has broken the law. Is it the person who sold it me or the person who slaughtered the animal? I don't know but someone has gone against what it says.

DaveinGermany 27-11-2016 15:00

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1182137)
To me that means if I am sold Halal someone has broken the law.

I'd of said the seller (high street Butcher/ethnic convenience shop/supermarket chain) would be the guilty party as the abattoir would be supplying via contract to these certified establishments, thereby absolving themselves of any direct sales to the "non entitled".

Which then throws up the prickly question of fast food chains selling products that have been halal-ed, surely then they must have a visible warning/information sign clearly announcing their compliance & adherence to the produce they are retailing.

Less 27-11-2016 16:52

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1182140)
I'd of said the seller (high street Butcher/ethnic convenience shop/supermarket chain) would be the guilty party as the abattoir would be supplying via contract to these certified establishments, thereby absolving themselves of any direct sales to the "non entitled".

Which then throws up the prickly question of fast food chains selling products that have been halal-ed, surely then they must have a visible warning/information sign clearly announcing their compliance & adherence to the produce they are retailing.

Wow! You've really been practising P.C. talk, how long has it been before you realised you are a lesbian?

DaveinGermany 27-11-2016 18:19

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1182145)
Wow! You've really been practising P.C. talk, how long has it been before you realised you are a lesbian?

M'lud! I would advise my learned colleague that he's sorely misconceived my utterances as PC when they are in fact merely articulate. As for further confirmation to my un-PC credentials I would encourage his viewing of various other postings concerning whining lefties, precious snowflakes & disparate other wankerati. :s_aim1:

Oh & I've been a lesbolian all me life! :D

MrPastry 28-11-2016 08:06

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Speaking just for myself, I feel insuring Halal gets some sort of priority sales treatment nationwide must also be a very clever ploy to increase its sales no? As our shall we say traditional way of life continues to get whittled away I'm becoming ever more fussy where I eat and even where I go sorry to say these days, not exactly what I envisaged in later life here in what's left of the UK.

Less 28-11-2016 08:56

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1182152)

Oh & I've been a lesbolian all me life! :D

Nah, I reckon you've only been one from puberty, whereas I've been a Les all my life!
:bingobang

DaveinGermany 28-11-2016 17:43

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1182191)
Nah, I reckon you've only been one from puberty, whereas I've been a Les all my life!
:bingobang

Aye 'appen as how you're right, but prior to the acne & afro I must've been a latent lesbo. :s_aim1:

DaveinGermany 05-12-2016 13:42

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Seems like the Alis' Snackbar boys & girls & even the vegetablists might just be about to gorge on "Bacon" after all.

Researchers discover seaweed that tastes like bacon and is twice as healthy as kale | The Independent

DaveinGermany 18-09-2017 19:52

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Once more the Ali's Snackbar bods kicking off about "Their rights" what about the Kaffir kids rights in all this? Welcome to Lancashmiiri!

Muslims Threaten Boycott as Council Votes on Banning Halal Meat in School

cashman 20-09-2017 07:54

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1201749)
Once more the Ali's Snackbar bods kicking off about "Their rights" what about the Kaffir kids rights in all this? Welcome to Lancashmiiri!

Muslims Threaten Boycott as Council Votes on Banning Halal Meat in School

That could be easy sorted! If they boycott schools, send them back to country that this is fine practice. if they wont integrate or abide by our ways, what they doing here.?

Margaret Pilkington 20-09-2017 15:35

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Cashy...don't ask daft questions.
:)
You KNOW the answer to that one!

Less 20-09-2017 16:25

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1201749)
Once more the Ali's Snackbar bods kicking off about "Their rights" what about the Kaffir kids rights in all this? Welcome to Lancashmiiri!

Muslims Threaten Boycott as Council Votes on Banning Halal Meat in School

What I loved about that link was this,



https://twitter.com/BreitbartLondon/...t-in-school%2F It is an old link, don't go rushing to buy them.


Imagine, Muslims up in arms again, makes a change from suicide bombers and gives them a chance of a long service medal!

DaveinGermany 28-10-2017 11:18

Re: Halal butcher?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1201749)
Once more the Ali's Snackbar bods kicking off about "Their rights" what about the Kaffir kids rights in all this? Welcome to Lancashmiiri!

Muslims Threaten Boycott as Council Votes on Banning Halal Meat in School

And here's the follow up, looks like those "Nasty Nazis" (for the snowflakes & leftys, other nasty names for shutting down the arguement are available feel free to share!) on the council have told Ali's snackbar boys to do one! And that. to my mind is as it should be, this is after all (although it's hard to believe in some places) "Merry old England".

Lancashire council BANS unstunned halal meat in school dinners | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Although reading between the lines they've not had the stones to put a complete ban on the practice, more an appeasing lefty type compromise.

Margaret Pilkington 28-10-2017 13:44

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Some Muslims accept stunning ...just as long as it does not kill the animal.
My thoughts on this subject are that meals provided to children should follow legal guidelines. What the children eat in their own homes is something entirely different.
Non Muslim children should not be expected to consume unstunned halal products.
If the Muslims do not agree, then they are free to leave...the door is not locked.

I am fed up of us bending over backwards to accommodate incomes.
If people do not like our way of life, the answer is simple...do not come here.

taddy 28-10-2017 17:11

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Could some one, anyone, please explain to me what is meant by Halal; a couple of yonks ago, whilst filling up the car I also picked up a bag of blackcurrent and liquorice sweets, on the packet it stated that they were (Halal).
How can anyone slit the throat and bleed out a blackcurrent or a liquorice plant.

Your's, a completly baffled Taddy.

DaveinGermany 28-10-2017 17:56

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Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1203713)
How can anyone slit the throat and bleed out a blackcurrent or a liquorice plant.

I think it's more an assurance that the sweeties are edible for mad mohammedans rather than the ingredients were ritually slaughtered Tads. Bit like over here the packaging for meats now displays a symbol of the animal it's from as the recent crop of "Enrichers" are a smidgeon dim & "No speaka da lingo!"

Margaret Pilkington 28-10-2017 17:59

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Taddy...when you get sweets which have the halal marking on them it means that there are no ingredients which come from animals not slaughtered to the halal tradition...that any gelatine used(but it is usually a gelatine substitute) has not come from pigs.

With regard to the halal slaughter of animals.
Some muslims insist that the animal is not stunned at all because they want the animal to hear the prayers that are said for its soul...and the thanks to the animal for providing food. Some muslims believe that if the animal does not hear the words said over it, then the food is forbidden to them.

Kosher food is similar...they do not stun the animal they kill either. They recite prayers over it.

So anything that has the halal logo has no products in it that come from animals not slaughtered according to tradition.

I hope I have got that right and that it makes things clearer for you Taddy.

gpick24 28-10-2017 18:43

Halal butcher?
 
You are indeed correct Margaret, also any beef gelatine will come from halal slaughtered beef.
Don’t see many with substitute gelatine myself.


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Margaret Pilkington 28-10-2017 20:07

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I used to work with some Muslim girls and they would not accept sweets when they were handed around, but they used to bring in their own sweets and hand them around.
They told me that their sweets contained an alternative to gelatine.

gpick24 28-10-2017 20:37

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I know they are out there, probably not as much now though. I work in the confectionery industry and do the ingredients labels, most gelatine products we use either have pork, beef or halal beef. Some say just "gelatine" maybe these are the substitutes, there are only a very few of these though.


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Margaret Pilkington 28-10-2017 20:41

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I think some of the girls got them sent from their home country...the packs they were in were not something you would see in a sweetie shop here.


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