Oldest Building in Accy - Page 3

cmonstanley · 06-01-2009, 21:16

still think its the cottages or the church in the town centre

Royboy39 · 06-01-2009, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Try Plowthalge. Tudor Mansion.

The farm may also be referred to as Ponthalgh, Plowtalgh, Powtehalgh, and later Park Farm. This homestead is mainly associated with the Rishton family who occupied the homestead from the 15th to 17th century. The Rishtons finally left Ponthalgh for Preston, as a result of supporting the King during the English Civil War. In 1659 Ponthalgh was sold to the Walmesley's.

I lived at Park Farm in the 1950s.

panther · 07-01-2009, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Where is St James Church? Accy or Church Kirk.

Accy...He asked oldest building in accy so i told him

parts of which hail from the 16th Century!

Retlaw · 07-01-2009, 18:43

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Originally Posted by panther

Accy...He asked oldest building in accy so i told him

parts of which hail from the 16th Century!

Sorry Panther, but St James Church is not 16th century.
There is a sign on the Cannon St side showing when it was built,
its wrong by two years, quite a lot of it was rebuilt during the 1800's, and the roof was lowered as well.

Retlaw.

panther · 07-01-2009, 18:46

2 years

!!

Well i was nearly right

K.S.H · 07-01-2009, 18:59

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Originally Posted by panther

2 years

!!

Well i was nearly right

Yeah by 2 centuries not 2 years

Retlaw · 07-01-2009, 21:04

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Originally Posted by panther

2 years

!!

Well i was nearly right

Eup Panther.
Mind if I give you a little lesson, 16th century means 1500's, not 1600's,
St James Church Accrington is 17th century.
St James Church, Church Kirk, is sometimes refered to as being the site of a Kirk since the 12th century, I doubt the present building is anywhere near that old. When I indexed the parish records for Church Kirk the 1st one was dated 6-4-1600.
When you look at the grave yard, and know how many people were buried there in the past 400 years, its a wonder the grave yard is not six feet higher than it is.
Retlaw.

Royboy39 · 07-01-2009, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

The farm may also be referred to as Ponthalgh, Plowtalgh, Powtehalgh, and later Park Farm. This homestead is mainly associated with the Rishton family who occupied the homestead from the 15th to 17th century. The Rishtons finally left Ponthalgh for Preston, as a result of supporting the King during the English Civil War. In 1659 Ponthalgh was sold to the Walmesley's.

I lived at Park Farm in the 1950s.

Why do you choose to ignore this Retlaw......Have I offended you?

Retlaw · 07-01-2009, 21:25

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Why do you choose to ignore this Retlaw......Have I offended you?

Not in the slightest, but the question was "oldest building in Accrington", which I answered, High Riley Cottages Sandy Lane, Accrington.

Don't know much about the history of Church or Rishton.

Retlaw.

walkinman221 · 07-04-2010, 19:17

High riley cottages numbers 3-7 were built in 1628 number 1 was a later addition approx 1800 ish

gavmrgav · 17-04-2010, 10:47

Accrington was built around Oakhill Park. So I'm guessing maybe around that area.
But St. James Church in Accy has grave stones nearly 300 years old.

Retlaw · 17-04-2010, 14:03

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Originally Posted by gavmrgav

Accrington was built around Oakhill Park. So I'm guessing maybe around that area.
But St. James Church in Accy has grave stones nearly 300 years old.

Accrington was built around Oakhill Park.
Eh, who told you that fairy tale.

Accrington before 1878 was two separate hamlets,
one was centered around the Bull Bridge area, with Union St being the main street. The other known as New Accrington was centered around where Church St, Cannon St, Oak St and Black Abbey St meet. The fact that they were called Old & New Accrington, has nothing to do with their ages.
Its related to copyhold rights.

I have a list somewhere of all the residents of both
hamlets in 1660.

Retlaw.

Taggy · 17-04-2010, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

Accrington was built around Oakhill Park.
Eh, who told you that fairy tale.

Accrington before 1878 was two separate hamlets,
one was centered around the Bull Bridge area, with Union St being the main street. The other known as New Accrington was centered around where Church St, Cannon St, Oak St and Black Abbey St meet. The fact that they were called Old & New Accrington, has nothing to do with their ages.
Its related to copyhold rights.

I have a list somewhere of all the residents of both
hamlets in 1660.

Retlaw.

Wow...i'd love to see that Retlaw.....is there any chance that you could put the list on here?...would be very interesting to see those names!

Best Regards - Taggy

Retlaw · 17-04-2010, 21:41

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Wow...i'd love to see that Retlaw.....is there any chance that you could put the list on here?...would be very interesting to see those names!

Best Regards - Taggy

I don't think its possible, all my work on Accrington's History, and the WW1 files are on another computer which runs under DOS 6 the files are in Wordstar 6, that computer has never been connected to the internet, and never will be.

The list of names runs to 28 A4 pages of
information.

And before you join the others who have critisised me for working in such an old system, I like WS6, I've never seen or used a wordprocessor that will maintain my files as I like them, and no dammed mouse either, fingers only, fonts, line spacing and other commands, on the page where you can see them, not in some scratty little box at the top, which you hope is the same font you started with.
There are 100's of us all over the world who still use WS6 or WS7.

Retlaw.

Taggy · 18-04-2010, 08:39

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

I don't think its possible, all my work on Accrington's History, and the WW1 files are on another computer which runs under DOS 6 the files are in Wordstar 6, that computer has never been connected to the internet, and never will be.

The list of names runs to 28 A4 pages of
information.

And before you join the others who have critisised me for working in such an old system, I like WS6, I've never seen or used a wordprocessor that will maintain my files as I like them, and no dammed mouse either, fingers only, fonts, line spacing and other commands, on the page where you can see them, not in some scratty little box at the top, which you hope is the same font you started with.
There are 100's of us all over the world who still use WS6 or WS7.

Retlaw.

Oh thats a shame Retlaw, i wouldn't dream of critisizing your system....i'm a chap who still prefers Pen and Ink, over emails!!

Best Regards - Taggy