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corblimey 27-10-2011 09:53

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I am researching my family who lived in Accrington and surrounding areas from around 1900 to possibly present day. The families were: Maden - Willie Horner Maden and his wife Minnie Rose (Monk) Maden. They had 6 daughters, Elsie Marion, Bessie, Joan, Shirley, Minnie Isabel, Olive Eugenie. The daughters married into the following families: Rawcliffe, Moore, Kelly, Laraway, Metcalfe, Britcliffe. Willie Horner Maden, was, I believe a butcher. The Madens lived in Avenue Parade, Accrington.
I am also researching the Cocker family. Robert Lang Cocker and his wife Mary Jane (Clayton) Cocker. They also lived in Avenue Parade, Accrington at the time of the 1901 census.
If anyone has any information about my family history (living relatives, only with their permission) I would be very happy to hear from them.

Bob Dobson 27-10-2011 11:52

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First posting from Corblimey - and what a good un to get our teeth into. It wuill be on page 2 in no time at all.

Does Sir William Cocker, industrialist and mayor,come into this family. If so, I have a contact.

Interesting that Robert Cocker had a Lang middle name. Possible connection with Lang Bridge.

ChrisC 29-10-2011 19:51

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Hi...I'm also researching my family history in the Church Kirk area. The names I'm looking for are Chambers, that's mine!, in the Church area, Houldsworth in the Mellor area and Bradshaw; all around 1700 to 1850ish.
Although my father and graandfather were born in Rochdale, the relatives before that were from Church Kirk and Oswaldtwistle. They were living in a place called Broughton Barns, if anyone knows where that is, immediatly before moving toward Rochdale.
Any contacts or help would be appreciated.

Atarah 31-10-2011 23:29

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Miss Maden from Avenue Parade was one of the teachers at Peel Park School a while back.

Atarah 31-10-2011 23:41

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This board, on the wall of the present day Peel Park School, have Olive Maden's name on it.

Atarah 31-10-2011 23:42

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 943998)
Miss Maden from Avenue Parade was one of the teachers at Peel Park School a while back.

- think she was Bessie

Balbus 01-11-2011 11:32

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It was Bessie Maden at Peel Park - she taught "the Scolarship Class" (and me - 1953 to 1954).
Her family were wholesale and retail butchers and owned the Cross Street Garage and Warner Street properties. I think they also had a property on Bridge Street which later became Garth Dawson's photgraphic studio.

CherylSyd 09-04-2015 03:19

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Hi there, does anyone have any knowledge of a ROBERT METCALFE who was recorded as living in BUSK, Oswaldtwistle in January 1855? The birth of my great, great grandfather, JOHN JAMES HARDACRE occurred in Busk, Oswaldtwistle (mother MARIA HARDACRE) at this time. The "occupier" of the residence on the birth certificate is listed as ROBERT METCALFE at Busk. My suspicions are that this place was temporarily rented as it it seems Maria was pregnant to a member of the aristocracy in Yorkshire and this Robert could have been an employee of this aristocrat who was sent with her to register the birth in another county. (Such a wonderful mystery! I am an author so all of this really stirs the creative juices!) Thank you to anyone who may have knowledge of this Robert…and could anyone tell me exactly where the BUSK area of Oswaldtwistle was in 1855. From my research it appears to be close to the Straits and Union Street, near Tinker Brook, and I do believe there is an old map showing it but I cannot trace this map online. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated … many thanks from Sydney, Australia. Cheryl

Rob1912 09-04-2015 19:34

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On the 1890's 25ins Ordnance Survey map of Oswaldtwistle there is a Busk Meadow Street between St Paul's Street and Haworth Street, opposite Hartley Street.

MargaretR 09-04-2015 20:09

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I found 'Busk'

Lancashire Lantern | Word Search | Item


...as a result of this old thread
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ssy-48361.html

Bob Dobson 09-04-2015 21:28

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Robert Metcalfe was known as 'Tar Bob' as he owned a factory distililng tar.In Chuirch I tjhi9nk. I haven't tiome top research it. I did some resewarcjh on him in connectiopn with the Grammar School Old Boys WW`1 war memorial. I think he married his
'housekeeper'and adopted her (Yorkshire) children. Can someone check in Mike Rothwell's 'Industrial Heritage of Church & Ossie' If not, I suggest that CherylSid asks Accrington library to do it : - [email protected] Address it FAO John Simpson. Message me if needs be in a week or so

Retlaw 09-04-2015 22:19

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 1138305)
Robert Metcalfe was known as 'Tar Bob' as he owned a factory distililng tar.In Chuirch I tjhi9nk. I haven't tiome top research it. I did some resewarcjh on him in connectiopn with the Grammar School Old Boys WW`1 war memorial. I think he married his
'housekeeper'and adopted her (Yorkshire) children. Can someone check in Mike Rothwell's 'Industrial Heritage of Church & Ossie' If not, I suggest that CherylSid asks Accrington library to do it : - [email protected] Address it FAO John Simpson. Message me if needs be in a week or so

All that is covered in Bill Turners book on the WWI Grannar School Memorial. His child by her was an Accy Pal K.I.A. Somme July 1st. Her eldest child, Tar Billy's stepson, is in the Granmar School registers as Metcalfe, thats a mistake. He was in the Navy, also died in WW1.

Rowlf 10-04-2015 21:30

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I don't know anything about these families but I do know that Miss Maden at Peel Park had umpteen rings which she could use to great effect on pupils backs if they were misbehaving and she was a brilliant shot with the blackboard cleaner.

Acstan 13-04-2015 18:41

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Hello Cheryl
I had a look into the Hardacre family and working from the names you gave found that Maria's sister Nancy married a John Metcalf, 1846 in Settle.
1851 Nancy and John are in Giggleswick visiting Nancy's parents John and Sarah Hardacre then found they moved to Lancashire and lived at Over Darwen, Blackburn.
It's just a guess, have a look and see what you think.
John

Acstan 13-04-2015 19:00

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Sorry it's Robert Metcalf not John Metcalf

Acstan 13-04-2015 19:18

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CherylSyd 14-04-2015 07:28

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Thank you Rob! I will have a look at that. Kind regards, Cheryl

CherylSyd 14-04-2015 07:31

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THANK YOU Margaret R…and yes, I did see your link, but when I clicked through to go to OSSYGOBBIN'S site…where the BUSK map was supposed to be, it shows that site as no longer there. Do you know of anywhere else that I could find this map of Osssy that shows BUSK? Thanking you kindly for any time on this, regards, Cheryl

CherylSyd 14-04-2015 07:33

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Again, thank you SO MUCH Bob…I will email the library as you suggest. Kind regards, Cheryl

CherylSyd 14-04-2015 07:37

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Thank you RETLAW, I am overwhelmed by the kindness of people on this site offering info on the family members I am seeking. Your name in particular comes up as the person people regularly go to for help. Good on you for doing this and thanks again from Sydney, Australia! Regards, Cheryl

CherylSyd 14-04-2015 07:46

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You are a wonder, John! Thank you so much…yes, you have solved some of this mystery! It seems this ROBERT METCALF/E was Maria's brother-in-law she was staying with at the birth of her son JOHN JAMES HARDACRE (my great grandfather). And you have placed Robert Metcalf/e at Blackburn, is it? It is a bit confusing as sometimes this John James HARDACARE'S birth is listed in official records (such as the census) as being at CHURCH, then in another place as BLACKBURN…then on the actual birth certificate (that I had sent to me from the UK) it is listed as being a birth at BUSK, OSWALDTWISTLE. With your knowledge, could these places be seen as the same locale in some sense? Kind regards, Cheryl

Bob Dobson 14-04-2015 08:12

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As Church and Ossie are near to Blackburn - yes they could be. The census repeats what the head of household has told the enumerator, and cannot be relied upon as being 100% true.

ossy kid 14-04-2015 16:11

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Ossy and Church are like your right arm and your left arm, Blackburn is a liitle lower and round the back, still close enough to scratch though.

CherylSyd 16-04-2015 11:24

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Thanks for that Bob, and it is good to hear you say that about the head of household telling the enumerator …because as I say I have three different locales mentioned for JOHN JAME'S birth! Also Bob, thank you for the tip to contact the Accrington Library, I got a very helpful and fast response from John Simpson there, who has sent me an 1848 map of Oswaldtwistle clearly showing BUSK (for anyone else who would like me to send them a copy) and helping me out with other information. Thank you again kindly for all your time and assistance with this, warm regards, Cheryl

CherylSyd 16-04-2015 11:26

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Thank you OSSY KID, and I love your analogy about Church and Ossy being the right and left arms and Blackburn being the scratchable, reachable, lower back :) Beautiful!!

CherylSyd 16-04-2015 12:43

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To anyone interested in the old BUSK area of Oswaldtwistle, I found a photo of BUSK (taken in the 1960s) on the web. It is here:
Lancashire Lantern | Word Search | Item

I then studied GOOGLE MAPS carefully to locate the exact position of this photo and I discovered this:

This photo of BUSK was taken from the corner of LORD ST and UNION ROAD.
The building on the far right, is the current CIVIC THEATRE BUILDING (I checked on the "street view" of Google Maps, you can clearly see the unusual corner edges of this building AND the unusual windows with the slight curving at the base of frames), and therefore this shot of BUSK is of homes that once stood in that now deserted area of land between Lord Street and Howarth Street.

I also now have a map image of the BUSK area, dating from 1848, should anyone need to see it.

I hope this helps some researchers, I am trying to return some info after all the wonderful help I have received from people on this site. Kind regards, Cheryl

Bob Dobson 16-04-2015 13:45

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Look at the website of the Lancashire Family History Society. The home page has a turquoise block inviting you to click on to ask if any member5s are interested in the names /locations you type in.


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