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i have just watched the state opening of parliment on the tele .it was brilliant to see all the pomp and ceremony ,where else in all the world is there such pagentry, .and what a great loss it would be if we lost the monachy .i know its the will of many people to be rid of all things royal ..but you cant knock it just because prince charles is a prat..
WHATS YOUR VIEW????????????

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It's a hell of a lot of fuss for the reopening of Parliament, in my view.

Good for the tourists though!

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From what I understand Grannyclaret, there will be an excellent opportunity to indulge in some pagentry in Hyndburn. I am of course, referring to Councillor Britcliffe's Ye Olde Making of Ye Mayor Ceremony, a magnificent 4 day spectacle of pomp and circumstance encompassing mighty feasts of ye traditional pub fayre all washed down with the finest meads, clarets & ales. And all this merriment comes for nowt for those attending, because the good folks of Hyndburn will be picking up the tab. All £35,000 of it.

You've not got a ticket? Shame!

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If there is some-one out there with influence I wouldn't mind a couple of tickets, I'd bring Mick and a couple of others with me for company (also to keep me under control), I suppose I've left it too late to apply, what a shame, the only alternative is for us to have a virtual celebration here on accyweb to run parallel with the real exclusive, not for your ordinary people gathering of the elite.
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Keep the pomp and pagentry but use out of work actors, the current puppets would be welcome to auddition for the roles.

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From a strictly American point of view, I beleive that there are two main reasons why the UK is a favorite stop for our tourists. We speak, more or less, the same language. Americans are generally horrible at foreign languages, but travel in the UK doesn't require any. The second big reason that the UK is a favorite stop is all the pomp and ceremony. While Americans aren't interested in having a monarchy, the concept is still interesting. It's one of those things that makes a trip to the UK special. Personally, I'm of the opinion that the monarchy, with all the associated trappings, does a lot to keep the tourist trade in the UK strong.

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I'm not what you would call a royalist - but I don't think England would be quite the same if we didn't have them. If we lived in a country that had never had royalty it wouldn't matter so much but we do so I think it's something we should preserve.

Can you imagine a country when the absolute top person was President Blair. We think we in shtuck now but just imagine that scenario.

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I just think it's out dated and only a show for the tourists,I don't believe people are born to rule! I'm interested to see what happens once the Queen goes,I think people will start to wonder "are these our betters???"

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can't abide the royals, i'm of the belief they think ordinary decent people are peasants and don't give a monkeys about them.at the same time i think we should keep them cos i believe as others have already said- the pagentry,pomp ect DOES bring in many foreign visitors and revenue,although myself i wouldn't go to the end of the street.many would.

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i think when the queen dies ,a lot of great traditions will die too. i cant think many people will take to charlie and camilla ..and i dont think anyone can better the job done by her majesty ,,,,,,,,,,,,certainly not a president .

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I'm of a similar opinion, teh pomp does bring in tourists, but when lizzy goes we will be stuffed

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Keep the pomp & ceremony for the tourists but just pay the Queen instead of wasting our taxes on all the hangers on. They don't care about us so why should we pay them!!!

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Just as a reminder to all you republican traitors, we have tried this method of government before. after the regicide of Charles the First. Who replaced the King? Why, Oliver Cromwell. And who replaced Cromwell? Why, Cromwell jnr.

The commonwealth republic was the age of puritanism. Christmas cancelled, pubs shut, sex only in the missionary position, anyone dodgy burnt at the stake. Well, if thats what you want to go back to, fine. But please tell us who you want as President and head of state.

Tony Blair? Neil Kinnock? Michael Howard? Peter Mandelson? George Galloway?

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She's never had a job since she left school. She's nothing but a rich chav.

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Sounds similar to many corporate CEOs. :cool:

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Re: Tourism.

France, that former Monarchy, seems able to pull in the tourists without having the need for a King/Queen.

Divine right of Kings?

More like centuries of illegitimate births and Aristocratic couplings.

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And a smaller gene pool than Stacksteads!;)

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Ah, one of the signal advantages of the climate in the South of France! Is the UK preparing to take steal a bit of France's trourist tradfe by taking advatage of global warming and touting the UK seaside resorts as places where visitors can expect reliable sunshine and warmth?:D

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Not much of a balmy climate at Versailles, yet it's still heaving with paying punters.

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T-P-T, Abi Titmuss, I'm sure that others can put up others who I'm sure wouldn't be so restrictive.

:)

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Head of State? Anyone who was democratically elected.

Barbra Windsor would do a good job. I've nothing against any of the other Windsor's standing for election, and if they won l would be there with my little flag wishing them well, if it's what the majority of peole wanted.

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I'm with a head of state! You vote em in,you vote em out! Do we get to vote for King? No one should be born to rule these days! The Chuckle brothers get my vote!:)

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I just had to reply to this...I was there I saw it all it was brill..I had no idea this was happening on tuesday..my grandson and I was booked on the London eye for 1pm and we saw it all...LOL I cant get over it..im 47 on saturday and this was the 1st time I have ever seen her..I saw charles and Camilla too..Linda

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Arthur and his trusty servant Patsy "ride" into a field where peasants are
working. They come up behind a cart which is being dragged by a hunched-over
peasant in ragged clothing. Patsy slows as they near the cart.

Arthur: Old Woman!

The peasant turns around, revealing that he is in fact a man.

Man: Man!
Arthur: Man, sorry.... What knight lives in that castle over there?
Man: I'm thirty-seven!
Arthur: (suprised) What?
Man: I'm thirty-seven! I'm not old--
Arthur: Well I can't just call you "man"...
Man: Well you could say "Dennis"--
Arthur: I didn't know you were called Dennis!
Man: Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you?!
Arthur: I did say sorry about the "old woman", but from behind, you looked--
Man: Well I object to your...you automatically treat me like an inferior!
Arthur: Well I *am* king...
Man: Oh, king, eh, very nice. And 'ow'd you get that, eh?
(he reaches his destination and stops, dropping the cart)
By exploiting the workers! By 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma
which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society.
If there's ever going to be any progress,--
Woman: Dennis! There's some lovely filth down 'ere!
(noticing Arthur) Oh! 'Ow'd'ja do?
Arthur: How do you do, good lady. I am Arthur, king of the Britons. Whose
castle is that?
Woman: King of the 'oo?
Arthur: King of the Britons.
Woman: 'Oo are the Britons?
Arthur: Well we all are! We are all Britons! And I am your king.
Woman: I didn't know we 'ad a king! I thought we were autonomous collective.
Man: (mad) You're fooling yourself! We're living in a dictatorship! A
self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--
Woman: There you go, bringing class into it again...
Man: That's what it's all about! If only people would--
Arthur: Please, *please*, good people, I am in haste! WHO lives in that
castle?
Woman: No one lives there.
Arthur: Then who is your lord?
Woman: We don't have a lord!
Arthur: (spurised) What??
Man: I *told* you! We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune! We're taking
turns to act as a sort of executive-officer-for-the-week--
Arthur: (uninterested) Yes...
Man: But all the decisions *of* that officer 'ave to be ratified at a
special bi-weekly meeting--
Arthur: (perturbed) Yes I see!
Man: By a simple majority, in the case of purely internal affairs--
Arthur: (mad) Be quiet!
Man: But by a two-thirds majority, in the case of more major--
Arthur: (very angry) BE QUIET! I *order* you to be quiet!
Woman: "Order", eh, 'oo does 'e think 'e is?
Arthur: I am your king!
Woman: Well I didn't vote for you!
Arthur: You don't vote for kings!
Woman: Well 'ow'd you become king then?
(holy music up)
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake-- her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite,
held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by
divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why
I am your king!
Man: (laughingly) Listen: Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords
is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some... farcical
aquatic ceremony!
Arthur: (yelling) BE QUIET!
Man: You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some
watery tart threw a sword at you!!
Arthur: (coming forward and grabbing the man) Shut *UP*!
Man: I mean, if I went 'round, saying I was an emperor, just because some
moistened bink had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
Arthur: (throwing the man around) Shut up, will you, SHUT UP!
Man: Aha! Now we see the violence inherent in the system!
Arthur: SHUT UP!
Man: (yelling to all the other workers) Come and see the violence inherent
in the system! HELP, HELP, I'M BEING REPRESSED!
Arthur: (letting go and walking away) Bloody PEASANT!
Man: Oh, what a giveaway! Did'j'hear that, did'j'hear that, eh? That's
what I'm all about! Did you see 'im repressing me? You saw it,

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Classic stuff Bazf;one of my favourite bits of the film,apart from the killer rabbit,of course!:D

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Is it being so miserable and negative that keeps you all going ?

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Yup;that and a healthy dose of realism coupled with being overcome by hotdog fumes thru out the day! Sadly we're not all as loved up as you mate;some of us are very bitter and twisted!;)

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Looks like most of you. :D


GOD SAVE THE QUEEN !

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Where would the UK be without a bit of cap doffing and a dose yes Ma Lord.

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If you want to borrow a Bush or two.......