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WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 08:55

London Underground explosions
 
It sounds like there have been at least 5 explosions/power surges on the London Underground.

Just watching it on Sky at the mo. At first it was one, then two but now they say five incidents.

Someone who was involved in the Aldgate Station "incident" is saying there was a big hole in the side of the train and "bits of train" all over the place. It sounds like it could be worse than first reports. This man is talking about "limbs" lying around too.



All the underground seems to have been closed down now.


WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 09:09

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Five explosions on the underground and at least one bus in Russel Square with roof blown off according to a reporter which police have refused to confirm!

Now worried about our London members. Hope they post and let us know.

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 09:20

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I'm OK. I'm 300yds up from Liverpool street station. It's mayhem outside.

mez 07-07-2005 09:20

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pendy is ok just checked, she was on a bus waiting to get to work, she has seen the bus with the front off. she is home & is quite well, she does live 10mins from euston station.

mez 07-07-2005 09:21

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thank god your ok tealeaf, hope there arnt to many casualties.

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 09:22

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Thank goodness the two of you are OK Tealeaf & Pendy - I was afraid to ask and didn't want to put my thoughts into words.

It sounds awful on the news although at first they were trying to say it was an accidental incident it sounds like well planned terrorism and that is frightening.

apest1 07-07-2005 09:26

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its on all the news

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 09:30

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There's more news coming in about explosions on other buses.

Rail unions have reported one explosive device found on the underground.


This is awful.

mez 07-07-2005 09:30

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still conflicting reports, but sounds as though it is a very well planned terrorist incident

mez 07-07-2005 09:33

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reports of another bomb nr euston station not exploded

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 09:36

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It's going from bad to worse with the reports.

Obviously well-timed to disrupt the transport systems in London but not a thought for the people injured or even killed in the processs.

Steph 07-07-2005 09:48

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its sooo frightening. Just watching on the news now

andrewb 07-07-2005 09:50

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I just woke up and switch on news and instantly thought of 9/11 UK :(

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 09:56

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My thoughts exactly Cyfr

apest1 07-07-2005 10:01

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go to link http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1188265,00.html

mez 07-07-2005 10:01

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:( lost you for a min there tea have left you a messege on your moby.

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 10:03

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3 workmates just reported in OK....they come in on the line to Liverpool street. Thay were late this morning.Otherwise, its total chaos here.....people are abandoning the buses and walking in all directions. The noise of sirens has been almost constant.Just heard 20 dead.

andrewb 07-07-2005 10:04

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These news websites are getting hammerd :|

Yeah I heard 20dead too Tealeaf :(

apest1 07-07-2005 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by apest1

look at link

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 10:07

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Mobile networks are now restricted. No calls in or out.

mez 07-07-2005 10:11

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pendy is stuck in her home they have cordened her st off she cannot get out, the police have said they are certain that there are other bombs about,

mez 07-07-2005 10:11

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ok tea thanks

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 10:14

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Relieved to see you back online Tea.

cashman 07-07-2005 10:17

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trying to contact my son he is in liverpool street area,not having much luck-worried.

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 10:17

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All London hospitals now shut in to allow for casualties only.

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 10:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman
trying to contact my son he is in liverpool street area,not having much luck-worried.

He's close to me. Do you know exactly where? I can go utand see. All mobiles are down. Landlines only.

cashman 07-07-2005 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Mobile networks are now restricted. No calls in or out.

just seen this thanks for that tealeaf it explains why theres no answer hopefully

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 10:25

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Hope your son is safe Cashman

cashman 07-07-2005 10:25

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just got a text hes ok thank god

mez 07-07-2005 10:32

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oooooooo what great news cashman

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 10:33

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Good to hear that Cashman

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 10:35

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All mainline stations now closed.


Looks like I migh tnot be seeing you this weekend.

entwisi 07-07-2005 10:38

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I do hope all you London based guys are OK. Watching this from up here makes me think long and hard aboutworking in a city ever again.

Less 07-07-2005 10:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf
All mainline stations now closed.


Looks like I migh tnot be seeing you this weekend.

So long as we know your safe, that will only be a small disappointment!

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_1_107.gif

MUMMIBOO 07-07-2005 10:50

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Is it known if it is a power surge or an attack?

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 10:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MUMMIBOO
Is it known if it is a power surge or an attack?

Attacks. Lots of 'em.

Roy 07-07-2005 10:53

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It's just been on BBC 1 that this is the work of al-quaida. But nothing official yet...

pendy 07-07-2005 10:53

Horror
 
I was late leaving home this morning, so looked for a cab. None free, of course. I wondered why lots of people were walking, rang the office, and was told that the tube had gone down. So, walked to the bus stop and waited. At about 9:45 there was an enormous bang. We all looked at one another and said "That was a bomb". The bus came up, we got on, and sat there because the Inspector was unsure about letting it go, as he was getting various messages on his radio. After about 15 minutes or so, a British Transport policeman came running round the corner, shouting "Get off the bus, quick". As you can imagine, we did, quick. I said to him "Where should we go?" His answer was "I don't know, nowhere is safe." So, I came home. As I walked up Woburn Place I could see a bus with its roof blown off, debris and appalling damage. It is literally just around the corner. Two hours on, the emergency services are still dealing with casualties. 20 fatalities have been confirmed so far from the various incidents. I am just about to offer coffee to the poor souls who are having to deal with the carnage. My son is safe, he walked to the office from Kings Cross, thankfully before the reported bomb there went off.

I am very shaky, but thankfully okay.

MUMMIBOO 07-07-2005 10:56

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Just to let you know Pendy, tealeaf you may be far away but our thoughts are with you.

harwood red 07-07-2005 11:18

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this is awful, my thoughts go out to all down in London. Just come on radio 22 now confirmed dead but I hate to think about all those who were in the middle of blast as they will not be accounted for, it's just too awful to contemplate the distruction

cashman 07-07-2005 11:20

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thank god tealeaf @pendy @ my lad etc are a1 ok.

harwood red 07-07-2005 11:22

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I'll second that cashman, the relief for you about your son must be enormous

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 11:24

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Thanks for your post Pendy. Just watching it here on TV feeling so helpless. You were so lucky. I just keep saying thank goodness everyone i know is OK but there are still all those poor people injured and those whio have lost loved ones. I cannot put into words my feelings about this.

harwood red 07-07-2005 11:27

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I'm at work relying on updates on the radio and internet, I know what you mean about feeling helpless willow. I am also glad to hear fellow members from london are ok then instantly feel guilty for that relief when there are so many others injured, killed or unaccounted for.

garinda 07-07-2005 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman
just got a text hes ok thank god

Thank God Olly, and thank God other two members are safe as well.
There's nothing else to say.
Yesterday national joy, today this awful, tragic news.

mani 07-07-2005 11:32

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shocking i'm lost for words here...

i hope they catch the c*nts who did this. my heart goes out to those who have loved ones who are injured, missing or worse...

itv sayin 3 double decker busses bought over 100 injured to the hospital

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 11:40

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They're saying it could be suicide bombers.

mani 07-07-2005 11:43

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could be... i think it'll be something similar to what they did with the madrid bombings.

apparently some website has been unearthed claiming responsibility for this - some al qaeda cell in europe.

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 11:46

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I just cannot understand how anyone can do something like this. What goes on in their heads?

Tinkerbelle 07-07-2005 11:49

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Relieved to see accyweb members and their families are safe.

I've had it on the news all morning it looks horrific!

apest1 07-07-2005 11:50

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thay will need BLOOD , befor long for the injured , im of to the hospital to GIVE some

Debbie J 07-07-2005 11:50

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Thank God you're all safe & well. The b*****d's who did this planned it well. They knew there would be many people around & have done it to maximise the effect. It's bad enough and my heart goes out to the families of the dead But how much worse would it have been had it been yesterday with all those people waiting for the Olympic result.

mani 07-07-2005 11:51

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apparently they've shut the fone networks down in london simply cause they dont want any more bombs going off via text msgs

mani 07-07-2005 11:53

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they've deffo done it to time it with g8 in scotland.

with both blair and livingstone away

OMG i just seen this on another website...

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=85346

Report: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast
13:30 Jul 07, '05 / 30 Sivan 5765


(IsraelNN.com) Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred.

The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit.

At present, train and bus service in London have been suspended following the series of attacks. No terrorist organization has claimed responsibility at this time.

Israeli officials stress the advanced Scotland Yard warning does not in any way indicate Israel was the target in the series of apparent terror attacks.

John_Timmins 07-07-2005 11:56

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this is absoulutly terrible but its good to see that the emergancies services and police etc are as prepared as they possibly could be and that the plans that they have had in place seem to be working regarding shuting down phone network, and using buses as temporary places to treat the injured.

How could somebody do this its discraceful and then to own up to it as it seem this group have http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...188265,00.html

mani 07-07-2005 12:02

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mail is reporting it as well

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said.
Israel was holding an economic conference near the scene of one of the explosions. Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was supposed to attend, but the attacks occurred before he arrived.

Just before the blasts, Scotland Yard called the security officer at the Israeli Embassy and said warnings of possible attacks had been received, the official said. He did not say whether British police made any link to the economic conference.

John_Timmins 07-07-2005 12:04

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minutes before!!! what could anyone do in minutes they just do this to install the first moments of panick within the authorities


Sick

mani 07-07-2005 12:08

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it says they told the embassy minutes before

not that they found out minutes before

Margaret Pilkington 07-07-2005 12:27

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Glad to hear that the Accyweb members are safe and accounted for.
I hope they catch the barbarous cowardly attackers who did this. In the meantime my thoughts are with those whose friends and family have been hurt in this dastardly bombing.

mani 07-07-2005 12:33

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apparently they've also evacuated uxbridge tube station too according to another site i'm on

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 12:39

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OK guys....just to give you the latest update from here.

I am at the junction of Commercial St & Shoreditch High St: the former leads to Aldgate (2 dead latest) and the latter to Liverpool St. To the east of this is the Royal London Hospital. Commercial St is sealed off, so all the ambulances are detouring right outside my window to get to the Royal. It's been constant sirens for the last 4 hours.

The tube is closed, the buses are empty and returning to base. Mobiles are backin operation, but the service is scanty. A lot of buisnesses have shut down and told their people to gt home, any way how,and lots are wlking I just popped briefly inthe pub round the corner -it was packed. Everyone watching the news.

There are all sorts of rumours flying around, but those of you with a telly on will probably have a better idea of what's happened than I have.

It' raining heavily, whichyou might not see on t'telly.

I'll keepyou informed of what I know here.

MUMMIBOO 07-07-2005 12:49

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Thanks for that T.

harwood red 07-07-2005 13:09

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thanks for the update Tealeaf, it must be manic down there, we're all thinking of you all down there

janet 07-07-2005 13:54

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Glad to hear Tealeaf, Pendy and Cashmans son are ok.
I'm sorry for all the people injured and killed but by what happened in America we got off lightly. Hope there is no more carnage.

apest1 07-07-2005 14:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by apest1
thay will need BLOOD , befor long for the injured , im of to the hospital to GIVE some

thay will NOT let me give blood as i`ve had a tatoo put on within the last 2 yrs !!!

entwisi 07-07-2005 14:31

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NIce go though mate, have some karma for trying.

Ian

WillowTheWhisp 07-07-2005 14:44

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I can't give blood either because I'm on medication :(

Debbie J 07-07-2005 14:51

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Me neither as I had a blood transfusion back in 1983

mani 07-07-2005 14:54

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/...523423,00.html

Fears that Muslims may be become the victims of reprisals following today's London bombings have prompted a warning for them to stay indoors. Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, appealed for calm and condemned the bombings.

He said: "The Islamic Human Rights Commission utterly condemns this attack, but now we appeal that there should be no further victims as a result of reprisals."

There was no immediate confirmation of who was responsible for the attacks, but a claim was made on the Al-Qal'ah [Fortress] internet site, by a group calling itself the Secret Organisation Group of Al-Qa'ida of Jihad Organisation in Europe.

Mr Shadjareh said some members of the Muslim community suffered a backlash following the September 11 2001 terror attacks in the United States, and the Madrid train bombing in March 2004.

He said he was "very concerned about a backlash" and called on British Muslims to "remain vigilant and calm and stay indoors".

He said: "IHRC is advising Muslims not to travel or go out unless necessary, and is particularly concerned that women should not go out alone in this climate.

"In the event of being attacked, IHRC urges victims not to retaliate and to report the matter to the police and appropriate authorities."

cashman 07-07-2005 15:02

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ta everyone for your concern,know i'm an ignorant git,but its well appreciated.

apest1 07-07-2005 15:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi
NIce go though mate, have some karma for trying.

Ian

THANK you Ian for that ...
alan.

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 15:16

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This is the latest:


Looking out my window , there are masses of people walking north back home. I can't see any buses at all now, but the sirens on the police and ambulance vehicles are still going strong as they head towards the Royal Hospital
There are huge areas of the city now cordoned off, including the area immeadily to the south-east of where I sit and then there is another massive cordon to the west. Apparently, they are "scenes of crimes". Normally, I only have a half hour walk home or a bus, but this may now be an hour.

Morale is high; the pub was packed at lunchtime.The anger has yet to begin.

mani 07-07-2005 15:22

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how u guys plannin to get home??

apparently theres a few tube stations opened just to let u know

mani 07-07-2005 15:24

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london transport sayin stagger the bus journey if u can as their chokka today

harwood red 07-07-2005 15:26

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I suppose a lot of people will be only to happy to accept that it may take a lot longer to get home and may pull together sharing cabs etc... and just generally helping each other out

Doug 07-07-2005 15:29

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Pleased to hear that that those members down in the Capital are all ok, please take care and keep switched on. This is a dreadful act, those of you in other areas of heightened threat please be careful and keep your eyes open.

cashman 07-07-2005 15:35

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in this adversity one thing shines through to me as ive always said=when the **** hits the fan the british public rally round and all pull together,shame we don't do it all the time,

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 15:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mani
london transport sayin stagger the bus journey if u can as their chokka today

There is the occaisional double decker heading south into Bishopsgate, but there is no one on board. I've not seen any bus heading north for a while. The amulances are still back and forth.

John_Timmins 07-07-2005 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mani

Fears that Muslims may be become the victims of reprisals following today's London bombings have prompted a warning for them to stay indoors. Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, appealed for calm and condemned the bombings.


This is just as discraceful the people who perform these act are not true muslims but use this religion as a scapegoat for their actions it is a religion that is not understood in the british soceity and is one which many people do not like but this is mainly due to the bad press that it recieves

cashman 07-07-2005 15:44

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agree entirely with john on that theres a lot of decent muslims who i know,the animals that carried out this atrocity are just that ANIMALS.

lettie 07-07-2005 15:45

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I haven't seen the news yet as I have only just got out of bed. I am so glad that Pendy and Tealeaf are ok. If chaos such as this can be caused on a normal day, then think of the chaos that these people could cause during a big event, ie, the Olympics. It is high time that our do-gooders stopped harping on about the human rights of these terrorists and people who incite violence, and that our laws punish people properly.

jimmi5bellies 07-07-2005 16:10

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Ive been in bed most of today watching the news. Its so terrible. My heartfelt sympathies go out to all who are hurt and have been killed.

mani 07-07-2005 16:28

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bloody hell!!!

they've just shown the m25 or maybe the m4 and its just gridlocked!!

feel sorry for those folk

Tealeaf 07-07-2005 16:53

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OK everybody....I'm signing off and heading home. It's been two awesome days here of triumph and tragedy. What was it that Kipling wrote about these "imposters"? Well, don't believe it...... its all been very real today.

It looks like I won't make the Stag this weekend...now that makes me mad. But I'll definatly be there next weekend. (I hope!)

lettie 07-07-2005 16:56

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Take your time getting home, have a pint on the way, and we'll see you when you manage to get here...

fireman 07-07-2005 17:08

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Thank god our friends are safe and well, our thoughts have to go out though to the people dead and injured , and to their families. These people were just going about their everyday lives and these murdering extremists choose to do this. I have been quiet up to now cause i feel sick after being very involved in the IRA bombs in Manchester.a few years ago. I saw the devastation and the heartache it caused and still can,t come to terms with it . Pendy Tealeaf and Cashies son thank god your OK . Ian.

Sara 07-07-2005 17:28

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It's just a barbaric act, total bast**ds. Glad to hear all our members are safe. My heart goes out to all.

Margaret Pilkington 07-07-2005 17:29

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The people who did this aren't animals.......animals do not kill and maim for fun......the people
who committed these atrocities are cowardly barbaric people...and if they should ever be found...or when they are found they should be shot..........at least 33 people are dead tonight because of them. 33 families are grieving when they should not be.
A curse on the bombers.

garinda 07-07-2005 17:59

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I just hope that the so called protesters, who yesterday were ripping up pavements to throw at the police in Scotland , some of whom appeared to be middle aged well dresssed women, have the decency to halt their 'protest' in the light of the tragic atrocoties seen in London today.

Today we should be pround and thankful for ther men and women of the emergency services.

Sparkologist 07-07-2005 18:10

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The official death toll is now listed as 37: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4661059.stm

Is there anything we can do to stop these atrocities happening? As the IRA were reputed to have said, "You have to be lucky every day. We only have to be lucky once."

Wynonie Harris 07-07-2005 18:18

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A very sad day for our country...sadly, I don't think the hooligans in Scotland will have the decency to call off their protests...and i'm sure there'll be some idiots defacing mosques and the like...fortunately, they don't represent the spirit of the British people...a spirit which was shown in the calm and determination of those on the streets of London.

harwood red 07-07-2005 18:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparkologist
The official death toll is now listed as 37: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4661059.stm

Is there anything we can do to stop these atrocities happening? As the IRA were reputed to have said, "You have to be lucky every day. We only have to be lucky once."

I think you've hit the nail on the head. On the radio today they were talking to I think he's called John Nicol who was a POW in the first Iraq conflict and he stated we have to be 100% lucky they only need 1% to cause mayhem the likes we've seen today. I don't think you will ever stop anyone who is completely committed to causing this sort of pain. It's a sad state of affairs

Acrylic-bob 07-07-2005 19:14

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London was my home for seven years and I am very fond of the place. I was there during part of the IRA bombing campaign and so can empathise with what many Londoners must be feeling tonight.

A more striking contrast with the patriotic euphoria of yesterday is hard to imagine. but London and Britain have been down this well worn and sorry path before. I know that when the tears have all been shed and the damage put right, London will dust itself off and carry on as before, as though nothing untoward had happened. There is comfort in that.

The current crop of terrorists will make as much impression on Londoners as their predecessors the IRA and Hitler did, which is to say hardly any at all.

I am relieved that, though they were close to todays events, Pendy and Tealeaf are safe and well. I grieve for those who lost their lives this morning, what a terrible, shameful waste of life.

I do not care how oppressed, marginalised or disenfranchised the perpetrators of this crime against humanity imagine themselves to be, there is not one iota of justification for an act of such callous and calculated evil. May God forgive them, if he can then he is better than me, because I cannot! I spit on them, fling my shoes in their faces and call them less than men. They are craven cowards and pitiless murderers who dishonour their families, their countries and the name of the God they claim to fight for.

I think that it is high time that our muslim brethren decided which side of the fence they are on and deliver these murderous pigs to the Police. :mad:

Acrylic-bob 07-07-2005 19:31

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To prove that not all French people are despicable ingrates, the following was posted in The Times today.

"France owes so much to Britain that as a French citizen one may only express a heartfelt feeling of horror and solidarity with the British people. We stand by you as you did so often during the past century. Thierry Tuot, Paris "

Enough said I think.

grannyclaret 07-07-2005 20:05

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thank god the accy members are safe....
the people who did this are just cowardly, PIGS,,,how can they sleep at night ?

John_Timmins 07-07-2005 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by harwood red
I don't think you will ever stop anyone who is completely committed to causing this sort of pain. It's a sad state of affairs

You can't stop somebody who is willing to take their own lives to do this

It is simply impossible and even if you do there will be another terrorist following in the last ones footsteps unfortunatly this was unevitable that this was going to happen and thankfully the london authorities were prepared and prevented as much loss of life as possible

West Ender 07-07-2005 20:56

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It worries me that if the government doesn't now take sensible action against suspected terrorists the people of Britain will.

We all know about the people who have been allowed into this country who live well on the backs of British taxpayers and repay us by inciting and indoctrinating hatred and terrorism. We all know that they have been handled with kid gloves and allowed to stay. We mustn't cause any offence.

Sorry, people, but when a rotten apple falls into the barrel you pick it out and despose of it. You don't wrap it in tissue paper and hope it doesn't spread its fungus.

So Al Quaeda is behind the carnage? This is not men from Afghanistan who have crept in overnight armed with explosives, in a Commando raid. The perpetrators have been here for some time, maybe all their lives, have carefully planned their operations and have been taught how to do so by those whose mentality is too extreme for most right-minded folks to comprehend. The government has known of the probability for years. They have done nothing.

It has to be stopped before the people of these islands take matters into their own hands and there is a bloodbath. I truly pity the many good, decent, hard working Muslims in our communities who will feel the backlash, in some quarters, from the activities of Al Quaeda. With more stringent immigration policies it would not have come to that. As it is, the BNP, an organisation I personally abhor, will capitalize on the event and indulge in their ususal rabble rousing.

Bazf 07-07-2005 21:37

Re: London Underground explosions
 
The following is a statement issued by U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in the wake of the deadly terrorist attacks in London on July 7, 2005: This morning, the civilized world watched with concern as the people of London saw the face of violence and brutality. We offer our deepest sympathies to the families who have lost loved ones and to those who were wounded.

Too often the global struggle against violent extremists is discussed in a context that can distract from the harsh reality that its victims are innocent mothers and fathers, husbands and wives, and neighbors we see and work with every day. Images from London have shown faces filled with tears and shock. Such faces are sadly familiar to us here in America. However, reports from London are already telling of calm passengers, compassionate strangers, and courageous rescuers. And that too is familiar — the grace and humanity that contrasts vividly with the hatred and violence of terrorists.

The London attacks have a special resonance for the American people — for America has no stronger or closer ally in the world than Great Britain. We are bound together by a common heritage, a common language and a deeply shared commitment to freedom. As President Bush indicated earlier this morning, the United States will stand with the British people with unflinching resolve.

Though it is not yet known with certainty precisely who is responsible, we do know terrorists' intentions. They strike without warning and without regard for human life in the hope that they can frighten and intimidate free people — to change our way of life. And they won't stop until their side or our side has prevailed.

But if these terrorists thought they could intimidate the people of a great nation, they picked the wrong people and the wrong nation. For generations, tyrants, fascists, and terrorists have sought to carry out their violent designs upon the British people only to founder upon its unrelenting shores.

Before long, I suspect that those responsible for these acts will encounter British steel. Their kind of steel has an uncommon strength. It does not bend or break.

The British have learned from history that this kind of evil must be confronted. It cannot be appeased. Our two countries understand well that once a people give in to terrorist's demands, whatever they are, their demands will grow.

The British people are determined and resolute. And I know the people of the United States are proud to stand at their side.

Neil 07-07-2005 21:57

Re: London Underground explosions
 
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Originally Posted by John_Timmins
You can't stop somebody who is willing to take their own lives to do this

Yes you can. You have to kill them first, before they kill others. Sounds harsh you may think. I bet it dosn't to the families of todays victims.

chav1 07-07-2005 22:12

Re: London Underground explosions
 
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I think that it is high time that our muslim brethren decided which side of the fence they are on and deliver these murderous pigs to the Police
fat chance of that happening though

these terrorists wouldnt even assosiate with muslims that wanted to live in peace


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