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grannyclaret 21-09-2005 22:42

Good old Shelley
 
well good old Shelley gave Charlie Stubbs the boot tonight in corrie,,that man has got up my nose for weeks....:signwier:
now i hope she gets it together with zack.....oohhh that sexy voice:alright:

fireman 22-09-2005 07:13

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I totally agree Granny noe lets have the old Shelly back instead of that snivelling wimp that he turned her into.

garinda 22-09-2005 08:01

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Interesting fact for Corrie fans-

Shelley is played by Sally Lindsay, who was the girlfriend of Geoffrey Hughes in the Royale Family, who played Eddie Yates in the Street in the 70's/80's. She's also best friend with Peter Kay, who she persuaded to make a guest appearance in The Rovers earlier in the year.

[The actor who plays Zack was the idol of David Brent in The Office as well.]

grannyclaret 22-09-2005 10:08

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never watched the office,,,
i hope sally gets peter kaye to do another stint on corrie...that was a good story,,, meanie boy friend....

janet 22-09-2005 12:13

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Like you granny it really made my night to see Charlie get ditched. Good riddance to bad rubbish.Never could stand Charlie.

dazzalam 22-09-2005 12:20

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its not real ya know, whatch the news instead lol

slinky 22-09-2005 12:21

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Everytime I saw his face on telly......I wanted to smash it in.
He must play a good part, because it's one of those, if you saw him in the street, you would give him a slap not being able to see past his character.

Wonder how many little old dears have slapped him while he has been walking down the street??

accymel 22-09-2005 12:24

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ERM very realistic altho i wish i'd done one at the alter like Shelly, my x hub is a mix of grant & phil Mitchel, charlie & very much like Trevor from eastenders least i know where that actor got his character from.

accymel 22-09-2005 12:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzalam
its not real ya know, whatch the news instead lol

Actually its based on real life situ's & thanx to soaps highlighting this sensitive subject sufffers can get help & society can be made aware its not acceptable!

Tinkerbelle 22-09-2005 12:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
The actor who plays Zack was the idol of David Brent in The Office as well.


He was also in Playing The Field ....... I used to love that programme :)



I'm not a big fan of Corrie but I did watch to see if she did or didn't go throught with it and 'good on you Shell' were my sentiments too! Is that the last we see of Charlie now, has he left the programme?

slinky 22-09-2005 12:33

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Originally Posted by accystanmac
Actually its based on real life situ's & thanx to soaps highlighting this sensitive subject sufffers can get help & society can be made aware its not acceptable!

I really don't understand why, in this day and age woman stay in abusive relationships.
A lot of woman say " Oh I stayed for the children". Do these woman realise how devastating it is for children to watch this day in day out. Speaking from experience, I would have rather had a slit family, than live everyday in fear!!!!!!.
So no staying for the kids, is a BAD option.

dazzalam 22-09-2005 12:38

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Based on real life?, can you be serious how many murders have been on that street alone?, its still cobbled? everyone goes to the pub at dinnertime, especially factory workers and they dont even have to hide from the boss cos he is in there as well, and as for the bed hopping, also how real will it be when guaranteed shelly will be back to normal in about 5 episodes and it will all be forgot about until they need the ratings and the story will be back and before you ask i am made to suffer it when i am in the same room as the wife watches this drivel, when i get the remote The History Channel or footie goes on, but Im a coward and she wind 9 out of 10 lol

grannyclaret 22-09-2005 21:08

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Originally Posted by dazzalam
also how real will it be when guaranteed shelly will be back to normal in about 5 episodes and it will all be forgot about until they need the ratings and the story will be back and before you ask i am made to suffer it when i am in the same room as the wife watches this drivel, when i get the remote The History Channel or footie goes on, but Im a coward and she wind 9 out of 10 lol


:D oohhh..ITS REAL LIFE ESCAPEISM,,,,,,get a pair of headphones and watch another tele,,,thats what i do when football ,history ,discovery,sports and sciencefiction etc come on :tongue8:


and by the way just going off the subject,,,,EMERDALE was superb tonight ,,,well done zoe...:flamethro

baby boo 22-09-2005 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzalam
Based on real life?, can you be serious how many murders have been on that street alone?, its still cobbled? everyone goes to the pub at dinnertime, especially factory workers and they dont even have to hide from the boss cos he is in there as well, and as for the bed hopping, also how real will it be when guaranteed shelly will be back to normal in about 5 episodes and it will all be forgot about until they need the ratings and the story will be back and before you ask i am made to suffer it when i am in the same room as the wife watches this drivel, when i get the remote The History Channel or footie goes on, but Im a coward and she wind 9 out of 10 lol

outside of my house is cobbled and factory workers come in the pub for a drink and threres also plenty of bed hopping around where i live so you could say it is real life. oh and there has been a murder aswell! so :p lol

garinda 22-09-2005 21:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzalam
Based on real life?, can you be serious how many murders have been on that street alone?, its still cobbled? everyone goes to the pub at dinnertime, especially factory workers and they dont even have to hide from the boss cos he is in there as well, and as for the bed hopping, also how real will it be when guaranteed shelly will be back to normal in about 5 episodes and it will all be forgot about until they need the ratings and the story will be back and before you ask i am made to suffer it when i am in the same room as the wife watches this drivel, when i get the remote The History Channel or footie goes on, but Im a coward and she wind 9 out of 10 lol

Awwwwwwww you're in an abusive relationship, except your wife is Charlie and you are Shelly. Stand up for yourself, or call Zack.;)


Funny how people who claim to detest soaps always know what's going on. Corrie is as realistic as Dickens was to Victorian society, it's a microcosm.

accymel 22-09-2005 22:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slinky
I really don't understand why, in this day and age woman stay in abusive relationships.
A lot of woman say " Oh I stayed for the children". Do these woman realise how devastating it is for children to watch this day in day out. Speaking from experience, I would have rather had a slit family, than live everyday in fear!!!!!!.
So no staying for the kids, is a BAD option.

Erm i can understand it unfortunately being in that position 1st hand u cant actually see what an outsider can see as corrie has depicted well, domestic violence isn't just about slaps & punches, its main trigger starts with mental & emotional abuse - physical is usually the last of the 3. Cognitive therapy which is what Zack did helped shelley to see that she was capable when charlie undermined her & that clicked for Shel but a lot of women even men are trapped in the cycle of fear not only physically but mentally & emotionally ripped & worn down & are truelly in beleif that its their fault & the guilt trip cards played by abuser when a person is on the floor keeps that going more. It takes tremendous courage to leave & stand upto an abuser its not always easy to just go & those not strong enough that do leave usually go back with the abuser later. Cognitive Councelling gives u the best chance of escaping & sticking with it as u can unravel the mind control & reprint your own back plus knowing the signs to watch out for too.

But yes slinky being a single parent is better rather than a violent nuclear family for the child wellbeing & safety.

ANNE 22-09-2005 23:05

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Good on her.
Think it was the out come we all wanted.
She needs to carry on seeing Zac.
But Noo Romance with him.

dazzalam 23-09-2005 07:59

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but if it was based on real life, would she have not stayed trapped in an abusive relationship then?, is that not more reflective of real life.
and how come its mainly women defending the "real life " quality of Corry, its escapism and thats it its not reflective of real life, watch it, make a brew in the middle and swamp the national grid, make ITV thousands for the adverts they show in between (that you dont watch cos your making a brew) and forget it, oh and if you miss an episode, the world WONT end girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

garinda 23-09-2005 21:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzalam
but if it was based on real life, would she have not stayed trapped in an abusive relationship then?, is that not more reflective of real life.
and how come its mainly women defending the "real life " quality of Corry, its escapism and thats it its not reflective of real life, watch it, make a brew in the middle and swamp the national grid, make ITV thousands for the adverts they show in between (that you dont watch cos your making a brew) and forget it, oh and if you miss an episode, the world WONT end girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Last time someone looked I had balls.:)

dazzalam 23-09-2005 21:35

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I did say mainly!!!!!!

garinda 23-09-2005 21:42

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After forty years at the top of the ratings as a populist drama, they must be doing something right.

If you would like to debate the merits of this masterpiece of story telling, which started at the same time as British kitchen sink films changed world cinema, and whose epic roots could be compared with Homer, and as I mentioned before Dickens, I would be more than happy.

SPUGGIE J 23-09-2005 21:57

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G you eaten a dictionary?

ANNE 23-09-2005 22:01

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Mick says that Corrie and Emmerdale are rubbish.
But he sits there watching.
He's always askin me whats going to happen.
I think a lot of men are closet watchers.
They watch and enjoy but will never admit to it.

garinda 23-09-2005 22:03

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
G you eaten a dictionary?


No, that's not what he told me his name was.

dazzalam 23-09-2005 22:03

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I think you said it all with the forty years, times have changed, and i dont agree with media manipulation of the masses, I dont disagree with how popular it is, cant argur with fact, i do disagree however with it "being real life", its pulp for the masses to eat up, and used as a manipulation tool, and a lot of the viewers find it hard to distinguish between reality and fantasy how else would you explain, little old ladies slapping past actors from the show because of their storylines, and by constantly telling people its based on real life , does nothing more but encourage this.

garinda 23-09-2005 22:16

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I didn't say it was real life, like I said before it's a microcosm of real life like all drama is and literature.

Debbie J 24-09-2005 07:20

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If it was possible, I would like to be able to look at the relationship break up statistics after the Shelly story line. I wonder how many men/women watched the way Charlie treated Shelly and realised it was happening to them? As someone who was mentally abused for 13 years it wasn't until I went to college as a mature student that I realised I was being abused and it still took another year for me to decide I'd had enough and get out. I didn't think I would be able to cope on my own with money or making decisions but I did and I'm a lot stronger than I ever thought possible. So while Corrie may not be real it can be a lot nearer real life than people think.

garinda 24-09-2005 10:36

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Good for you Debbie.:)

Although it has had more murders than a normal street, as well as weddings etc., it does echo what happens in real peoples lives, just in a condensed form.

It also manages to keep it's sense of humour, which it's poor southern cousin Eastenders hasn't mastered to do.

SPUGGIE J 24-09-2005 15:53

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Eastenders is too fond of dourness and seems to hate a bit of lightheartedness.

Which is why corrie works so well:) a bit of everything.

West Ender 24-09-2005 19:35

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Corrie is, first and foremost, entertainment. Nobody with any sense believes it's "real life" but it has drama, comedy and pathos and the acting is superb.

Storylines can be funny or silly and, occasionally, very true to life like the Shelly/Charlie situation. OK it's all exagerrated, to fit into the half hour slots, but they do it well. I don't suppose you'd get many streets with as many vivid dramas going on at once but I once said that to a young Scouser friend about "Brookside" (plagues, murders, incest, explosions, bodies under patios, etc.).
His face didn't crack as he said, "Just like where I live". :D

grannyclaret 25-09-2005 14:50

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corrie and emmerdale are the only two soaps i realy watch ,,but i love them and feel that i know the characters personaly... i am not a balmy old woman just a little bit sentimental and naive....lol

fireman 25-09-2005 15:47

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As long as you enjoy them granny then thats good enough I must admit I watch them too Emmerdale being my favourite.

SPUGGIE J 25-09-2005 16:06

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Good job you lot dont get river city it would put you of soaps for good!

garinda 25-09-2005 17:00

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Good job you lot dont get river city it would put you of soaps for good!

Lol, that's one of the reasons I moved back to England.:)

For anyone who hasn't seen this BBC Scottish soap, which cost all of us all millions of pounds in licencing fees, it's dire rubbish, and makes Eastenders look like a laugh a minute Ealing comedy.

SPUGGIE J 25-09-2005 17:20

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Crossroads was better even with dodgy sets. Corrie still has the right blend.

grannyclaret 25-09-2005 22:02

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my all time favourite was prisoner cell block h ,,,,,,,,,,,,i loved that shower of women ...lol

SPUGGIE J 25-09-2005 22:13

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret
my all time favourite was prisoner cell block h ,,,,,,,,,,,,i loved that shower of women ...lol

Oh heck GC does that meen sons and daughters and the sulivans were you bit of tv as well?

ANNE 25-09-2005 22:23

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Now that was one to watch Granny.
I also loved Payton place and would rush home from school when that was on.
Nothing ever to beat good old Corrie though.

grannyclaret 25-09-2005 22:35

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Oh heck GC does that meen sons and daughters and the sulivans were you bit of tv as well?

nope... never watched sons and daughters ,and only an odd eppisode of sulivans,, never realy watched anyother soaps apart from brookside and the other prisoner with patrick mcgoogan ..oohh that was good.

Tinkerbelle 27-09-2005 17:29

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret
my all time favourite was prisoner cell block h ,,,,,,,,,,,,i loved that shower of women ...lol

Me and Slinky did too Granny, I'm still hoping they'll put re-runs on Sky but until then take a look at this site http://www.prisoner-cellblockh.co.uk/ it's even got that gorgeous theme tune on.


:bleedht: He used to give me roses,
I wish he could again,
but that was on the outside
and things were different then :D


I heard a little rumour on the grape vine that 'Cheeky Charlie' is to get a new love interest on Corrie who will most certainly give him a run for his money, anyone else know who it is? ;)

accymel 27-09-2005 17:43

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Yeh its rumoured Tracey Barlow :)

Tinkerbelle 27-09-2005 17:47

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Originally Posted by accystanmac
Yeh its rumoured Tracey Barlow :)


He He He :D Yes it is ............ I managed to feel like a smart ass for the whole of 14 minutes lol!!

Neil 27-09-2005 19:09

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
He He He :D Yes it is ............ I managed to feel my big ass for the whole of 14 minutes lol!!

If I watched that rubbish, which I don't, it might be interesting to see someone put him in his place.

accymel 27-09-2005 20:15

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
He He He :D Yes it is ............ I managed to feel like a smart ass for the whole of 14 minutes lol!!

Ah well i'd thought i'd leave it a bit before i answered altho ive known a few days advantage of daytime tv & wanadoo homepage LOL:D

grannyclaret 27-09-2005 23:18

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Me and Slinky did too Granny, I'm still hoping they'll put re-runs on Sky but until then take a look at this site http://www.prisoner-cellblockh.co.uk/ it's even got that gorgeous theme tune on.


:bleedht: He used to give me roses,
I wish he could again,
but that was on the outside
and things were different then :D



;)

oh thanks,,,, that has gone into my favourites ,,, oh the memouries ,looking at those faces
REB KEENE AND LOU KELLY ETC,,,and the freak still gives me the creeps,,, http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_22_25.gif

SPUGGIE J 28-09-2005 01:01

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What is the world coming to when a good tele memory is an aussie creation:confused:

grannyclaret 28-09-2005 12:45

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its a girl thing..lol

SPUGGIE J 28-09-2005 13:00

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Oh dear soaps are set to rule the world:confused:


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