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WillowTheWhisp 23-09-2005 11:54

terror at Manchester airport?
 
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Apparently he was just a passenger looking for his flight and got lost! How the heck did he get onto the runway and so close to a plane? And what was in the package they blew up? Was it his suitcase full of his holiday clothes?

dazzalam 23-09-2005 12:09

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would you have opened it to find out willow?

cashman 23-09-2005 12:13

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whatever it was it reassures me, they seem to be on the ball, and when we go in a couple of weeks,i'll bet security is even tighter.

WillowTheWhisp 23-09-2005 12:22

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would you have opened it to find out willow?

Nope.

What amazes me is that he actually managed to get onto the runway to look for his flight. How come he wasn't with all the other passengers?

I suppose they were on the ball(ish) but I'd prefer to know that people couldn't just wander about like that in restricted areas.

Romps 23-09-2005 12:36

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We are off on holiday in a few week as well.............Suits me too cashy!

SPUGGIE J 23-09-2005 15:43

Whatch out the beer and fags smugglers you coulb be next. maybe he was an asylum seeker trying to get out of the country. :rolleyes:

lettie 23-09-2005 16:00

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If he was only a lost passenger, why did the police have to stun him with a taser in order to arrest him???:confused:

Could he not have said "sorry, I am lost." Shown them his passport and boarding pass and asked for assistance...

SPUGGIE J 23-09-2005 16:12

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There is that much panic about terrorist that the poor dude trying to find his plane was used in a demo of security response exersise. It was a text book model of how it should happen alledgedly yet this poor guy is tazered with 50,000 volts 3 times a second for five seconds and then the blow up his belongings. I hope he sues the arther off them and hope he didnt have anything of extreme value in his so called bomb case. :confused:

accymel 23-09-2005 16:16

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It just shows how powerful terrorism is doesn't it, the security forces are on hot alert that attack is best prevention & i suppose the general public is just as alarmed too. Do they not have the baggage xray thingymebob so that luggage is checked???

SPUGGIE J 23-09-2005 16:48

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I cannot complain about the security at airports after i kept setting of the scanners at Dublin airport and all because I had a metal ring sealed black pudding in my combat trouser pocket.

accymel 23-09-2005 16:50

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what were u doing with a black pudding in your pocket???:eek:

SPUGGIE J 23-09-2005 17:00

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It was a weeks drunken fishing trip and had boat it as a form of ground bait and forgot i had it. :eek: All that Guinness is bad for you. :D

WillowTheWhisp 23-09-2005 18:11

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My point is - shouldn't we find it worrying that a lost passenger was able to get onto the runway? A lost passenger didn't do any damage but if a lost passenger can get onto a runway doesn't that seem to indicate that a terrorist can also get onto the runway? If he had been a terrorist would he have been caught before he did anything?

I hear what you're sayng cashman and romps but I'm hoping that security has been tightened up so that no-one can just get out onto the runway like that rather than cheering that they tasered him after he was already down there.

SPUGGIE J 23-09-2005 18:37

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To board a plane at Prestwick you have to access the runway. Not all airports are equip like the bigger city ones.

lettie 23-09-2005 18:40

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It's not just small airports though. I have boarded planes at Manchester and at Heathrow via the concrete in the past. It is remarkably easy to access the runway....

SPUGGIE J 23-09-2005 18:41

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And people wonder how its so easy to get to a plane. Surprised one aint been attacked yet touch wood.

grego 23-09-2005 19:13

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I find it hard to believe that he was lost, Manchester airport is well signposted, surely if you go through a door and end up on the runway you go back the wat you came!

WillowTheWhisp 23-09-2005 20:04

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Maybe he'd never been on a plane before and thought that was what you do.

dazzalam 23-09-2005 20:55

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
There is that much panic about terrorist that the poor dude trying to find his plane was used in a demo of security response exersise. It was a text book model of how it should happen alledgedly yet this poor guy is tazered with 50,000 volts 3 times a second for five seconds and then the blow up his belongings. I hope he sues the arther off them and hope he didnt have anything of extreme value in his so called bomb case. :confused:

Sorry I have to tottaly disagree with you there, dont take the chance IMHO, they could have shot the poor ******!!!!!!, if he had have been some psycho with a bag full of "internet made bombs", or part of some terrorist cell, they would have been highly justified, OK he wasnt, but what do you do "excuse me mr suicide bomber, please dont press that button", dont think so, in this day and age we cant afford to dither, if your family would have been on that runway would you still be happy about him suing YOUR government for YOUR money? when they are trying to protect US ALL!

baby boo 23-09-2005 21:11

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this confuses me, theres alot of things wrong with this man:

1) what nationality is he? if english he would have read the signs and asked for help if he was foreign then he would have watched what other people were doing and either followed them where he wouild have recieved helped to where he should have been.

2) if he is foreign how did he get here if he hasnt flown before? if thats to be one of his excuses? did he walk of the plane onto tarmac when he got here?

3) nobody struggles with the police unless there guilty and have done something wrong, any normal person who was innocent would not struggle they would be polite and do what the police ask.

or i personally think he was suicidal and wanted to throw himself under a plane sick i might be but he could have had personal memoies in that suitcase that he wanted to take with him, or he could have been a suicide bomber? no one knows just yet so we just have to wait and see!

cashman 23-09-2005 21:40

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it seems from reports the guy was a fruitcake, the point is that any gateway(which they must have anyway) is an obvious weak spot, so it doesnt matter what he was, he had to be prevented from acessing the runways,and he was, could have been anybody nutter or terrorist,reports and cctv also say he struggled and would not stop,so sorry spug the point about sueing the authorities is utter crap in my eyes.

WillowTheWhisp 23-09-2005 22:53

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Originally Posted by dazzalam
Sorry I have to tottaly disagree with you there, dont take the chance IMHO, they could have shot the poor ******!!!!!!, if he had have been some psycho with a bag full of "internet made bombs", or part of some terrorist cell, they would have been highly justified, OK he wasnt, but what do you do "excuse me mr suicide bomber, please dont press that button", dont think so, in this day and age we cant afford to dither, if your family would have been on that runway would you still be happy about him suing YOUR government for YOUR money? when they are trying to protect US ALL!

Agree that we can't afford to take chances. He could have been a terrorist. He could have had a bomb. He could have been going to plant a bomb on the plane. He may have had a detonation device in his hand. There is no way the police know the answers to all those possibilities and they had to act first and ask questions later.

I don't think there were any other members of the public around were there? But if he'd planted a bomb on the plane it could have killed everyone on it in mid-flight.


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