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Phylum 19-02-2006 17:24

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We can have our own 21st century crusades, may I suggest that you start by having your very own Crystal Nacht? You can start off with the shops along Blackburn Road, but please don't be too selective there you shouldn't ignore the Chinese in their chippies they have been getting along far too peacefully in my opinion! I'll be behind you on this one, waaaaay behind and trying to get on with my next door neighbours both Muslim and Christian.
I hope any jews among us are suitably offended by this remark from BrainLess.

jambutty 19-02-2006 17:29

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I couldn’t agree with your more Less – we should and do get on with our neighbours whatever their creed.

But if were to become a guest in your house to stay how would you feel if I slowly started to take over everything until such times that you felt your own house wasn’t yours any more? I’m sure that you would show me the door pretty damn quick before we reached that point. I would in your place.

BTW the Chinese are not Muslims and in any case they integrated into our society quite well.

In 20 years time, when the works canteen or coffee bars and restaurants were not allowed to serve meals during the day during Ramadan and all pubs had been closed and your weekend was changed from Sat and Sun to Fri and Sat, you might begin to wonder how it all happened. By then it will be too late.

Less 19-02-2006 17:35

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BTW the Chinese are not Muslims and in any case they integrated into our society quite well.

I know the Chinese are not muslims, but if you want the streets running with blood I don't see why you should ignore them, their blood is just as red as everyone elses. The advantage of brainless violence is you can always attack the weak and innocent as well as your main target.

Phylum 19-02-2006 18:36

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I know the Chinese are not mulims, but if you want the streets running with blood I don't see why you should ignore them, their blood is just as red as everyone elses. The advantage of brainless violence is you can always attack the weak and innocent as well as your main target.
Nobody wants the streets to run with blood, anybody's. But, I personally want to be able to wear a T-shirt with any image I choose on the front (with some obvious taboo's), I want to wear a crucifix if I so choose, I want to fly my country's flag. All of which, in one way or another have been banned in area's of this Christian land. Even Christmas is at risk!

garinda 20-02-2006 02:25

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Nobody wants the streets to run with blood, anybody's. But, I personally want to be able to wear a T-shirt with any image I choose on the front (with some obvious taboo's), I want to wear a crucifix if I so choose, I want to fly my country's flag. All of which, in one way or another have been banned in area's of this Christian land. Even Christmas is at risk!


What taboos?

Surely if we are to have free speech, and show scant regard to anyones beliefs, there should be nothing that can't be seen?

Phylum 20-02-2006 05:24

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Surely if we are to have free speech, and show scant regard to anyones beliefs, there should be nothing that can't be seen?
There are some images that could not be shown, under common bloody decency.

Scant regard to peoples beliefs? That applies to us also.

KIPAX 20-02-2006 08:12

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I find it amazing that so many of you think free speech exists. Are you really all that gullible..

Never in the history of mankind has freedom of speech existed.

Can any one of you tell me when freedom of speech has been available.. lets narrow it down to just this country shall we..

garinda 20-02-2006 09:14

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I find it amazing that so many of you think free speech exists. Are you really all that gullible..

Never in the history of mankind has freedom of speech existed.

Can any one of you tell me when freedom of speech has been available.. lets narrow it down to just this country shall we..

It doesn't, that's what I was getting at, though of course America thinks it has.

I remember reading someone was arrested at the seaside for wearing a t-shirt on the beach with the slogan 'f**k off' on, when they refused to take it off, when people with children had complained.

mickmc 20-02-2006 17:21

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Aye - and when there's a catastrophy in their lands - who's first to help ??? not their own Islamic bretheren, no, the West that they hate so much - I might have to think carefully next time theres an earthquake or tsunami maybe I'll donate to a good old Christian charity who works in the UK only

And as for them saying the press should not be allowed to print them, what about their favourite TV station Al Jazeera - they take great delight in showing the beheading of innocent westeners they've kidnapped, !! aye and repeating it night after night !! don't hear British muslims demonstrating against that !!!

And the protests - placards - "death to all non-muslims " - Jeez, what would have happened if some National Front members had carried placards like that - yeah they would have been arrested immediately !!

But its one law for them and another law for others

And no I'm not racist or bigoted - I get on with all who respect each other - and thats the key !! - they want us to respect their culture and beliefs yet they do not respect our culture and beliefs

Phylum 20-02-2006 17:43

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Double standards all the way. It was those placards and the like that make me say, lets all wear the t-shirts!

SPUGGIE J 20-02-2006 22:20

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The double standard is they need the openess of our media to project their opinion.

Acrylic-bob 21-02-2006 04:44

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I think think that the really tragic thing in all this is the fact that, so far, 43 people have lost their lives because of these protests. If this sobering fact does not illustrate the evil of organised religion then I don't know what does.

I can understand exactly why Roy will not allow the cartoons to be published on this website and, reluctantly, I have to agree that his descision is the only responsible one to take. But I also think that it is truly shocking that we must now walk in fear and dread of these medieval and wilfully obscurantist fanatics. And worse still, that the government is prepared to bend so far backwards to accomodate their every whim.

Integration is all very well, but it is, properly, a process undertaken by the immigrant, not the host.

Phylum 21-02-2006 05:41

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Hear, hear! Oh and hear, hear!!

SPUGGIE J 21-02-2006 11:33

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AB is back and nailed the issue on the napper. The host seems to be bending over backwards and wont be long before they hit the deck.

Margaret Pilkington 21-02-2006 14:31

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These cartoon were published in a provincial Danish Newspaper almost two years ago......and who do you think brought them back to the media attention?? Well, they were muslims.....now doesn't that seem a bit like muck stirring? If someone has already pointed this out.....I'm sorry....I haven't trawled through all of the posts.

Acrylic-bob 21-02-2006 18:00

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......and who do you think brought them back to the media attention?? Well, they were muslims.....now doesn't that seem a bit like muck stirring?

Quite right Margaret. The original dozen cartoons were also suplemented by a couple of more sexually explicit ones and then hawked around middle eastern news papers and mosques. Our Muslim bretheren do not seem to be able to see when they and their religious sensibilities are being used for an agenda that has nothing whatever to do with piety and everything to do with fostering anti-western hatred.

BLACKBURN RAVER 21-02-2006 18:21

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Just Found This T-shirt Anybody Wanna Link ? :d

Phylum 21-02-2006 18:37

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I love your avatar!

chav1 22-02-2006 16:29

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I love your avatar!

i like yours its kinda hypnotic :o

WillowTheWhisp 22-02-2006 17:25

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
Quite right Margaret. The original dozen cartoons were also suplemented by a couple of more sexually explicit ones and then hawked around middle eastern news papers and mosques. Our Muslim bretheren do not seem to be able to see when they and their religious sensibilities are being used for an agenda that has nothing whatever to do with piety and everything to do with fostering anti-western hatred.

Who drew the more offensive ones we may wonder? Have any death threats been made against them? More than likely that the people in the countries where these images have been spread still believe that all of them were published in Europe and that we all find all of them amusing. They should look a little closer to home to find the real offenders.

garinda 22-02-2006 22:02

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The cartoons could certainly be deemed offensive, but any depection of Mohamed, in Islamic tradition, is not supposedly acceptable.


One can only confer that Muslim extremists are using this in their fight against the West, mainly because so little protest was heard when last year an Indian produced a picture of the prophet Mohamed, as I mentioned and linked in one of my earlier posts.


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