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Hmmmm. We have wheelie bins and we have recycling bags/sacks/boxes/bins. The wheelie bins are emptied once a fortnight and the other stuff is collected on the alternate weeks. So far so good.
If we have more rubbish than will fit in a wheelie bin we are not supposed to put extra bags out. We are only supposed to "generate" enough rubbish so that our wheelie bin lid will close. Our wheelie bin was emptied last Wednesday. We have just had a leaflet to say that the new rubbish calendar starts this month and that our recycling will be collected on the 22nd and the wheelie bin will be emptied on the 29th. That's 3 weeks since the last wheelie bin collection. Now bearing in mind that we must not overfill the bin and we must not generate any extra bags, and bearing in mind that if we deposit any domestic litter in a public bin we may be committing an offence, just how are we supposed to get 3 weeks worth of household waste (non-recyclable) into a two week capacity bin that we already struggle with? OK it's (hopefully) only a one-off but it's going to have a knock on effect if we have to store the surplus until the following fortnight. |
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I sympathise if it is only a one off Willow, but in fairness they will issue you with a second wheelie bin if you can prove that you have more rubbish than will fit into one wheelie bin every fortnight. They send a refuse officer round to have a rummage in your rubbish to check that your recycling, but as long as you are, they will give you a second one.
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i think we must be a little luckier round here,the rubbish bins are emptied every 2 weeks and the blue paper bins and the compost/cardboard bins are emptied on the alternate weeks...perfect..
now comes the silly bit......we have the smallest box/bin imaginable to fill with glass, plastic and cans,, emptied every 2 weeks...it is like pendle hill...BUT...if you seperate them in see through carrier bags ie morrisons or iceland.they will take them.....BUT CERTAINLY NOT BLACK BAGS.......my neigbour and i do a bit of swapping and changing each week lol |
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I'm the other way round willow, when it changes I will have refuse collected 2 weeks in a row but 3 weeks between recycling. You could always bring your surplus rubbish down to me!! ;)
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simply fill a few extra binbags up but make sure not to put junk mail or antythhing with your address in them sling the extra bags down your back alley the night before collection day a refuse inspector will come and rummage through it but wont find anything and the bags will be moved |
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If you can prove that you cannot manage with the bin you have, you can request another. In baxenden they tend to replace the one you have got with a bigger one but only if they feel you are recycling properly.
You would have thought that they would have arranged extra collections until it's all up and running smoothly, but that could be too simple a solution for the council. It's a good job it's not the middle of summer - can you imagine the smell from all the overflowing bins............ it dosen't bear thinking about. |
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i think willows only struggleing because as a one off it is foing to be 3 weeks until her bin gets emptied so i doubt she will get a second bin if she normaly copes
thats why i suggested throwing it down the alley as a one off :-) or fill someone elses buin up just before collection |
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I've had a great idea, the best since i invented the unbirthday for the 364 days that it isn't your birthday.
It will revolutionise the way we throw our rubbish away. All the wheelie bins, green bins and red boxes get a computer chip attached to them. the dustbin wagon and recycling lorry have scales attached to weigh each bin or box as its emptied. each chip is assigned to your address, and all the data gets sent to a central computer so that the council knows how much rubbish, how much green waste how many cans bottles etc you've recycled. each area of the town gets split up into different teams. each quarter the team with the best recycling percentage is given a prize. The chips cost about a quid each and the weighing machines about 1800 quid. Now is that a mad idea or what |
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I was posted a new recycling bag this week, for textiles.
Willow you could empty your drawers, and store your clothes in the new green textiles bag, and store any excess household waste in your tall boy until the next wheelie bin day.;) |
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Rubbish bins in my home town in North Warwickshire are emptied every week, green bins and recycling are once a fortnight. We have a black wheelie bin for rubbish, A green wheelie bin for garden and cardboard waste two red storage boxes for cans and glass and a blue bag for paper. I lived in a flat down there and The flats still have black bags because the bins are in a cupboard on the landings. we got round this one bag thing, not that they ever enforce it down here, as we're not petty, by putting our own rubbish out the night before by the main entrance. they don't have to come up and fetch it so they never complain. Having said that we only ever had half a sack for the two of us. If your recycling, you shouldn't have much in the main rubbish bin.
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Yes but you haven't gat a sack thats half full, your talking about a wheelie bin and some more for three weeks. When I was at my parents there was four adults plus my brother and his daughter calling round and it was never full. When I was at liverpool there was five adults, plus my two sisters round once a week at least with 4 kids and although they have two bins and never recycle anything, the bin was rarely full. I think it was emptied weekly though, which means two bins, but bearing in mind no recycling whatsever.
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So you don't really know then. The only waste is dissposable products, nappies wipes etc And plastic packaging if you don't get the chance to recycle that. All food waste, cardboard, paper, cans, bottles, jars, books, clothing, shoes, cane be recycled.
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you dont have to have kids ,for loads of rubbish... if youve no rubbish then you dont eat..you dont drink(the 6pintmilk bottles take up loads of room on their own ....you dont do much at all ....i am with you tinks.. i just dont understand where it all comes from
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Mainly plastic. most people can squash a milk bottle GC. perhaps you should think about what goes into your bins a bit more then, before you do get tags on your bins. You fill it up but can't say what with. I bet its stuff that you could have recycled but didn't.
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We recycle all the things that the council will take as recyclable i.e. plastic bottles, glass, cans, paper. Clothes have always gone to charity shops and will continue to do so. Anything which someone else may possibly want ends up at the charity shops. Cardboard has always been put seperately even before the council recycled it. If there was anything recyclable which they wouldn't take we found our own way of recycling it. (and still do) Our bins are normally emptied once a fortnight but my point with this one off three weeker is that it is likely to have a knock-on effect as any of the 50% extra rubbish which won't fit in will have to wait until the next collection, which will make that one more than a bin full and so some will have to wait until the following fortnight, etc., etc. Another grumble of mine and a possible explanantion of why we have more rubbish than you is that every time the bins are emptied they manage to drop at least one bagful as the truck rounds the top of Ormerod Street, the majority of which ends up in our garden and the council then class it as our waste and refuse to move it so all that ends up in our wheelie bin too.:mad: |
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That's something to do with getting schoolchildren to sign people up as committed recyclers and earning points for the school from the council. |
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so you fill an entire wheelie bin full of cooked food waste in a fortnight?.
You recycle everything, even plastic, you don't have nappies yet you still fill a wheelie bin in a fortnight! |
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Well we don't recycle cat litter and pussy pooh! :D
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They don't have enough places to deal with all the recycling that they want us to produce either. It's all very well recycling, but if it then ends up in an incinerator, whats the point |
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AH now that I accept, cats if you use litter do create a lot of heavy waste.
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Telephone directories,yellow pages,mail,order catalogues,envelopes,plastic bags,tupperware,toys,plantpots,paint pots,buckets,wrappings from junk mail,cling film,crisp packets,coat hangers these things can NOT go into our recycling bags or box so must go in rubbish bin
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Thank you mick, a sensible well thought out reply.
Telephone directories,yellow pages,mail,order catalogues,envelopes All of these at one time could be recycled, what happened there. Dunno bout the mail though, I thought that was one of the things they DID want, mail is generally white paper is it not? Envelopes I do but remove the plastic window, white directories I do. argos books kays catalogues I do. There seems to be less restriction if you go to the paper bank than on the blue bags(cheshire recycling) dunno if thats means I'm doing wrong or you just get more restrictions cos it's road side collected. The sommerfield here actually recycles plastic bags and most can go in the rubbish bin anyway now as they degrade. |
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To be honnest if you have to wait 3 weeks you should be entitled to put a black bag out too, thats only fair. if the bins aren't collected for two weeks in Atherstone side waste WILL be collected and thats 2 weeks not three.
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If you recycle everything you can, what is left must be unrecycleable and you must know what it is. I find it hard to believe that even a full family with a pet, reycling everything can produce half a wheelie bin full a week. |
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Well as your assumption on how much waste a family generates is based on logic and mine is based on knowledge because I am the 'full family with pets' (plural), you'll just have to try to believe me.
Bloody hell even HBC don't give you this much greif regarding the contents of your wheelie bins lol! ;) |
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My mother ends up with others using her bin as she stays on her own so does not have as much for recycling or sending to Whinney Hill.
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i used to struggle with one wheelie bin but now the mrs and the kid have gone i manage just fine , i can get all my waste , plastic bottles , tins , cardboard and everything else into 1 wheelie bin :D
i heard a rumour that you were supposed to wash out food containers and put them in a box of some sort but i have yet to recieve or negotiate my wages from HBC for doing so besides those blue box's aint half handy for storing stuff in :) |
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mines based on logic which is based the families (plural) that I listed above as well as my circumstances and the residents in the the other 19 flats. some of which have a black bag a week and some have a wheelie bin. A two adult family creates a about a thirds of a wheelie bin full a weel when recycling nothing.just because I don't have kids don't assume Ive never lived with a family that do have kids.
perhaps chav has the answer it's the women and kids then cos when I'm living on my own I manage just fine. flats aren't allowed recycling bins boxes and bags here so I have to take all mine to the bin |
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On the blue bag - No cardboard, no enelopes , no yellow pages
On the paper bank - No cardboard, no envelops, no directories, plastic bags. yes magazines, catalogues, brochures, junk mail, newpapers, white office paper. |
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actualy the biggest offenders of waste are the compsanies that pack a 1 foot object in a 3 foot box for instance , junk mail companies etc but for some reason the resposability has been lumped on the public and sod all done or said to the big companies that create the rubbish in the forst place
you cant blame women and kids the majority of women are tidier than men by nature and more likely to create less mess and particiapte in things like recycling where as most mem will at best hit the bin when throwing a tin away :D |
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Your assuming that I don't know what I'm talking about and couldn't possibly know how much rubbish a family wouyld create because I haven't got kids.
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Also you haven't questioned the contents of my bin, because I've already said. I also haven't come on here complaining that the bin will be full after not being collected. Now that's inviting people to comment on it.
I don't think it's right that the council stop you having side bags I also question why anyone has so much rubbish if they recycle everything, a good answer is cat litter and nappies I also question what to your knowledge can and can you not recycle. and I asked what you thought of being charged by the weight of your bin, which will be bought in. |
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Then why say that I haven't got kids? Whats me not having kids got to do with me knowing how much waste a family with kids has. My sister has four kids. I'll say again, the only extra waste a family with kids generates that can't be recycled is nappies and disposables and plastic wrappings.
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Who the idiot is that said im talking rubbish get in here and tell me why instead of leaving your crappy comments. At the least the people in this thread have the guts to argue their point. tell me why I'm talking rubbish. Why do you think all the families I've listed so far can cope with one wheelie bin in a fornight, but I'm still talking rubbish.
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technicaly we are all talking rubbish ;)
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I've wondered that too Granny but they definitely say not to put them in. Maybe they make the sacks too heavy for the men to lift.
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I know with yellow ones its cos of the yellow colour but if you read what i listed above its only the paper banks that say no directories at all. acording to that you can put white ones in a blue bag. bit confusing that
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its to do with the spines on them being so thick it actually jams the machine up, its the same for catalogues. And the reason they don't want envelopes in the recycling is the gum actually gunks the machine up too!!!
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Yes so cutting out the little windows and being ever so green by recycling the rest of the envelope probably causes far more trouble gumming up the works! :rolleyes:
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yeah its not the little window that everyone seems to think is the problem its the actual gum for sealing the envelope which causes havoc
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Well I'm just a well-behaved Willow and only put in the sacks what HBC says we are allowed to put in the sacks even if I don't know why, that way I can't get in bother.
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Iasked for recycling sacks and boxes eighteen months ago, which never arrived.
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Hey as chav would say, stuff the lot of em, and they should have a machine that sorts the whole bloody lot out from your normal rubbish then there would be none of this keeping no end of boxes and bags and wheelie bins all over the place :mad:
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Just looked at mine and we have swopped as well. The letter about it is from Cllr Ann Scaithe. Give her a ring Willow now on 01254 889536 and ask her :D. Tell her you can't sleep for worring about it
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now you know where pet's corner's guinea pigs have gone tinks!!! :eek:
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Willow, I have just called the Cleansing Dept as a service to all AccyWeb Members. They will be taking away black bags of rubbish on the first collection after any changes. So like I said 'Spring Cleaning Time' :D
I also suggested that they could have saved themselves many phone calls if they had put that on the letter. The reply I got was typical. They said that they had not seen the letter untill it had been sent out and that they would have put the information in it. They have received hundreds of calls about this already. Like I said in another thread Quote:
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ROFL. I rang the council too Neil! Probably about the same time you were posting this. :D
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Well, as a conversation stopper, I think they should bring the rag shop back, at least we got one penny for the jam jars and (?) per pound for the textiles, wool brought the best price. :)
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Well, in my experience whenever a council tries to stop you putting side bags out, it causes more hassle for the council than just collecting the side bags. And as I've said not every houshold needs to put sidebags out.
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Didn't stop Hatter though did it. Only teasing you Hun honest :D |
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I`ve got a better idea than microchipped wheelie bins. Send all the rubbish to Whinney Hill tip, then get local criminals on community service to sort the rubbish out for us. Thirteen weeks on the tip will do them the world of good.
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My problem is that we mostly are not in Ossy on refuse collection days, and I don't want to put the bin out on a Sunday evening. We have a fantastic neighbour, Keith, who checks the bin every so often and puts it out for us BUT it's the box with the bottles that's the real problem. God knows what the binmen think when I remember to either put it out or ask Keith - we look like a lapsed branch of Alcoholics Anonymous!
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You mean your not?
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Certainly not, dear boy - never joined in the first place, so can't lapse! (And anyway I do get some help filling the box from various members of Accyweb).
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Do they ~Madhatter Invites self round~
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Well im confused :confused: cos our regular recycle/bin day is friday, today was recycle on usual terms but now they are changing the days starting from next week curtousy of HBC calender thingy so according to that recyle is next wednesday - but they took the recycling today as would be normal:confused:
Sooooo are they coming back to recycle little cos most has been done today despite grey bin supposed to be emptied next week:confused: ??? Why do they have to change a perfectly working normal service that people have got into habit of just to confuse everyone for their purpose:confused: So what is it next week bin or recycle & what day are we gonna bet on wed or normal fri ???:confused: |
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They do it to prove they can, they're council, so we can't expect any logic to what they do.
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Why don't they just do weekly rubbish collections like we get here, it would be a lot easier for you, and I don't see any reason why they don't, you pay tax on a weekly basis so should get weekly collections.
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Ha Ha you sure it's the computers that can't.
We have a weekly rubbish collection though neil, and despite what I say about recycling and not making rubbish, I do believe that it's needed, our recycling is collected fortnightly, well not mine, but the towns which also works well. We never get this situation of three weeks. The only time we get missed, is on a bank holiday, sometimes, but it's been years now. Think your council has major managment problems, I really do. Who is this britcliffe anyway, why does his name keep getting brought up. |
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Also got the letter plus calender etc. Am i right in thinking that we have to stop using the blue box for tins and start putting them in the blue bag? If so can't see why they have changed it.
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i totally agree with u they should supply more bins.:engsmil:
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I haven't missed the point, the whole thread is about waiting 3 weeks for a collection, something we never have to do here. I think your neing sold short. If you had weekly collections you'd only have to wait 2 weeks like we do when we get our one offs, which is a big difference.
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What was that about using blue bags instead of the boxes? I thought we were using the boxes for tins and bottles and the blue bags for plastic bottles just like we've always done. The only difference seems to be that cardboard now goes with the recycling collection rather than with the rubbish collection.
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are you sure? cardboard usually goes in green bins with garden waste. paper goes in bags, everything else in boxes. Why do they tell you to put cans in a box but plastic bottles in a bag, strange ppl.
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For Normal 2 weekly collection. 3 weeks - 2 weeks = 1 week extra rubbish For Normal 1 weekly collection. 2 weeks - 1 weeks = 1 week extra rubbish Therefore we would still have 1 week extra rubbish if we were on 2 weekly or 1 weekly collections. Therefore according to my calculations Madhatter is talking a load of rubbish. |
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