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the U.N. has called for a 3-day truce, in lebanon to enable aid to the old,young,trapped civillians etc israel has refused saying they have opened a humanitarian corrider, after this week bombing a red cross convoy (easily distinguished from the air) bombing a U.N. observance post (after them informing them for 6hrs) causing casualties by an aid convoy, it sure seems like bullsh** to me, i think its about time blair @ bush got off the pot and sided with the rest of the civilised world in demanding an immediate ceasefire.:(

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I couldn't agree more

on one side you've got isreal saying syria and iran are supplying weapons to hezbollah and calling it wrong, and yet when isreal is supplied with weapons by the usa it's ok. many people in the muslim world see this a another double standard.

how can the usa act as a peace broker if they're arming one side and refuse to speak to the other.

this attitude "We don't negotiate with terrorist's" is doing more harm than good

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totally agree with whats been posted above, the only [U]honest[U] American with any integrity who I think would be trusted by both sides is ex-President Carter and he is near his dotage.
Bush is a religious nut who believes the rapture is coming and his buddy Blair is too busy groveling around and kowtowing to Rupert Murdoch waiting to be fed scraps from his masters table

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just an observation but our (political members) seem strangly silent.:cool:

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I'm undecided ... it seems 6of one and half a dozen of the other, and I really don't know what isreal should do. On the one hand they have to show they don't just let terrorists kidnap their soldiers, and on the other, the terrorists are hiding in civilian areas so theres gonna be innocent deaths..

The best solution would obviously be them both to stop and talk, but we all know that isn't gonna happen.

ps. I didn't post because I wanted to try and make up my mind on the matter, but I still havn't done that yet :p

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This whole carryon stinks and as usual its the young and old who suffer from the carnage being wrought. Both sides need a reality cheack and fast or this will spread beyond our control. This could end up like the War of the Roses and the Hundred Years War (know it wasnt a 100 years before I get pulled up) and with the same amount of lessons learned.

The Un seems to be powerless and both sides are throwing the world a deafy. It will end up with the destuction of one or both sides and there will be no winners just a lot of destruction.

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hell of way to get even for a kidnap?there was a snippet on tv last week(which i was unaware of until then) in 1946 british soldiers were billeted at a hotel in jerusalem, israeli terrorists bombed the hotel and killed many, did we then bomb the crap out of israel? did we hell as like. but our government supports this!! you may be undecided cy
fr but i sure as hell aint.:cool:

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another thing i would add is british civilians/aid workers have been kidnapped in the middle east some with tragic consequenses are you advocating we should have bombed the crap out of these places? or that israeli soldiers are worth more? just wondering.

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when israel kidnaps hundreds, even thousands of innocent people nothing is done, the world turns a blind eye. but when 2 israeli soldiers are kidnapped its all out war and condemnations.

hezbollah is accused of bombing indiscriminately but most of theyre bombs land in the sea or field, only some hit 'real' targets. on the other hand israel Is bombing indiscriminately, earlier they bombed Qana, killing many children.

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it seems israel has NOW called a 48hrs ceasefire while they investigate the bombing of Qana, its obvious to me they have been leaned on,hope they understand that the bombing of civilian areas increases over many years the membership of hezbolla.:(

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Well what do you want them to do, sit back and just take provocative attacks? Lebanon can't force hezbolla out, they're powerless. If they just sit back then it's an open invitation that there is no punishment for what they do (remember they killed 8 soldiers too in the kidnaping, on isreal's soil).

This may sound like im defending isreal but i'm just playing devils advocate right now, I understand that it was a lot of force for two kidnappings and 8 murders. I truely have not made up my mind on 'who is least in the wrong' so to speak. :)

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Are you suggesting that Hezbollah bombs are landing in the sea or in a field purposely, because Hezbollah do not want to hurt anyone???

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And therein lies a tale! It's my opinion that Israel have walked into a trap. Hezbollah launch their rockets from civilian districts knowing full well that Israel will respond and, no matter how careful they are, will end up killing innocent women and children. This, of course, gets the citizens of Lebanon on the side of Hezbollah and lengthens their recruiting lines. I think the whole damn thing could well be a recruiting drive for them and Israel are just feeding that purpose.

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No. what am saying is that the missiles used by hezbollah are not exactly guided missles. they just aim it towards a town and let it off. the missiles used by israel are guided.

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Reply to JohnW.
Good on you thats the first bit of sense said on this subject so far.
In my humble opinion.
Ianto.W.

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it just seems to me that theres isralei retribution and the rest of the world retribution, there were many atrocities/bombings on our mainland for many years,was our answer to bomb ireland? theres less aggro their now since before it kicked off in 1967, bombing didnt solve that problem,and having worked their pre 67, and visited the north during, i never thought i,d see the day! just glad i have.

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the big contrast, of course, is that the objective of the IRA was the withdrawal of the British State from Northern Ireland; the objective of Hamas, Hezbazollah, Iran and possibly Syria is the total destruction of the Israeli state. In such circumstances, the Israeli collective mindset is completely different than that of the British with Ireland from 1968 onwards.

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The US is tied itself to Isreal the same way it did in China during the 1930's when Japan invaded. At the end of it all it was the fear of Japan that forced the intervension in China and the fear of middle eastern countries makes them side with Isreal (or down to the large number of Jews in the US and their voting power.) Is this what the world really wants all this bombing killing and distruction because 2 sides cannot accept the idiologies of the other? By the time this bunch of war mongers on each side realise its fruitless it will be too late.

Britain had its head bashing with the IRA but never resorted to bombing as NI is part of the UK and no one would have stood for it (my belief). All that is happening is it is spiraling out of control and know one seems to want to stop it once and for all. Two soldiers are kidnapped so all hell breaks loose almost as though they got the excuse they need to go in gun ho.

Unless they can learn to live in peace without all the retoric being spouted
from both sides not just the one side as seems to be in the media this will just go on and on and on and could in theory drag many other nations in to this rock and a hard place wing-ding.

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So by that token, it is just good luck (or bad luck depending which side you're on) that one or more of these rockets hasn't hit a school and killed hundreds of children. If that happened, do we doubt for one moment that we would see Hezbollah celebrating in the streets?

The guided missiles of Israel are aimed towards rocket launching sites in Lebanon which "just happen to be" in civilian populated areas.

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Welcome to Vietnam Middle East style!!!

Dosnt matter who does what its wrong!!! How many civillians are dying in relation to the number of soldiers killed on both sides. Blowing up villiges because Hezbollah lob some rockets in their direction. The civillians in Isreal have more chance of getting out of range than those in Lebanon. The more civillians killed in the Lebanon the more people will stand with and join Hezbollah. It seems the so called rules of war are being ignored by the beligerants involved.

Luck or unlucky dosnt come into it.

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that is pefectly true tealeaf! but i wonder what was the israeli mindset when they blew the hell out of british troops in 1946?

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Good question Cashman, the same reason Israel is at war now, then it was
the British they had to convince, now it is the age old enemy go back to the old testament. It's gone on since times immemorial, as the saying goes 'east
is east and west is is west and never the twain shall meet'. There but for the
grace of god go we. Pray it doesn't happen here. Israel has a right to exist!