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AccyJay 29-08-2006 12:06

Town Centre CCTV
 
I work in the town centre & just wondering if everyone was aware that the CCTV system & police radio link (pubs to police) is still not working. It has been offline now for more than 2 months since the council moved everything to the new location at Greenbank in Blackburn. I've been informed that it will be back on in approximately 2 weeks, but, i've heard this before.

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Neil 29-08-2006 13:48

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
It has been offline now for more than 2 months since the council moved everything to the new location at Greenbank in Blackburn.

This sounds like HBC bashing again. I thought it was the Police who controlled the cctv

KIPAX 29-08-2006 14:00

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Hi . I am a proffesional thief and part time trouble maker... many thanks for the heads up on the cctv :)

AccyJay 29-08-2006 14:05

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Originally Posted by KIPAX
Hi . I am a proffesional thief and part time trouble maker... many thanks for the heads up on the cctv :)

You all seem like a sensible bunch here, that's why i submitted my post. Most of the idiots in town already know about the CCTV. Hense the fact that trouble on fri/sat night is on the increase.

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mrskitty 29-08-2006 16:14

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Originally Posted by KIPAX
Hi . I am a proffesional thief and part time trouble maker... many thanks for the heads up on the cctv :)

I was also thinking this wasn't an ideal thread to put on the internet-how can you say were a "sensible bunch" from a few messages we put on here?and for 20 sensible members there may be 1 bad un'.
Plus people who are not members can view these threads anyway:eek:
Not being nasty just think its not something i would have broadcast to all and sundry.

garinda 29-08-2006 16:24

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Originally Posted by misskitty
I was also thinking this wasn't an ideal thread to put on the internet-how can you say were a "sensible bunch" from a few messages we put on here?and for 20 sensible members there may be 1 bad un'.
Plus people who are not members can view these threads anyway:eek:
Not being nasty just think its not something i would have broadcast to all and sundry.


I don't think the drunken louts that roam the streets care if they are on CCTV or not, as can be seen by the many vicious attacks, and sometimes murderous acts, that are reported on the news and accompanied by video footage of these terrible crimes.

Neil 29-08-2006 16:44

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Originally Posted by KIPAX
Hi . I am a proffesional thief and part time trouble maker..

I thought you were a professional trouble maker :D

Tinkerbelle 29-08-2006 17:19

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
Hense the fact that trouble on fri/sat night is on the increase.

Where's your proof? I've seen nothing myself or reports in the news to suggest an increase in trouble in the town centre! :mad:

Sorry, but it bugs the life out of me when people start saying its rough to go drinking in Accy Town Centre. It's no different than any other town centre at week-ends and between the police, door staff and pub watch they do a pretty good job of keeping drinkers safe IMHO!

garinda 29-08-2006 17:25

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Where's your proof? I've seen nothing myself or reports in the news to suggest an increase in trouble in the town centre! :mad:

Sorry, but it bugs the life out of me when people start saying its rough to go drinking in Accy Town Centre. It's no different than any other town centre at week-ends and between the police, door staff and pub watch they do a pretty good job of keeping drinkers safe IMHO!


I agree. According to local reports this summer in the press trouble has decreased in Accrington and district since the licencing laws were recently changed.

Neil 29-08-2006 17:35

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Originally Posted by garinda
I agree. According to local reports this summer in the press trouble has decreased in Accrington and district since the licencing laws were recently changed.

The Police have come to the end of "Operation Summer Nights" so maybe the druken kids will be back on the streets shortly.

Tinkerbelle 29-08-2006 17:51

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Originally Posted by Neil
The Police have come to the end of "Operation Summer Nights" so maybe the druken kids will be back on the streets shortly.

Neil sorry but the town centre at weekends has been ok for a number of years not just due to an "operation". There really is a high visiblity police presence weekend nights and I think it's works.

Yes the CCTV is extra eyes for the bobbies patroling the area but it's the beat bobbies that have made the difference. I'd say you pass a beat bobby or a patroling vehicle every 5-7 minutes on a weekend night. Not much time for any major problems to break out.

Neil 29-08-2006 17:55

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Yep you can't beat bobbies on the ground to deter trouble makers. Is that why you and AccyMel keep going to the Shoulder of Mutton? ;)

accymel 29-08-2006 17:56

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Originally Posted by Neil
Yep you can't beat bobbies on the ground to deter trouble makers. Is that why you and AccyMel keep going to the Shoulder of Mutton? ;)

No its cos old age creeping in now;) :D

katex 29-08-2006 18:13

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I read that about Crime dropping in the centre, unfortunately .. can't find now, wrapped me left overs in the pages of the Observer.

Ok, so BR made a wild statement that didn't suit, however, they
should be working by now, and obviously this transition has not run smoothly.

Shane. 29-08-2006 18:29

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If anything should kick off in town because the cameras are not working surely we can’t blame anyone here for that. we are probably the last to hear about it.
Get them fixed.

SPUGGIE J 29-08-2006 19:13

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The last time I was out in Accy at the weekend I was suprised how many police there was. It was very reassuring that you can actually leave a pub and get back home without any agro as such. I dont believe its down to just CCTV pubs have had enough of agro and are more orginised in to how to deal with it.

AccyJay 29-08-2006 20:17

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unfortunately most of the ploice go back to the station at 2:30 am.

SPUGGIE J 29-08-2006 20:30

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Even the police need fed and watered. IF the effect of them "hanging around" is reduced crime then going for a brew and butties at 02:30 is not a sin.

AccyJay 29-08-2006 20:35

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Where's your proof? I've seen nothing myself or reports in the news to suggest an increase in trouble in the town centre! :mad:

Sorry, but it bugs the life out of me when people start saying its rough to go drinking in Accy Town Centre. It's no different than any other town centre at week-ends and between the police, door staff and pub watch they do a pretty good job of keeping drinkers safe IMHO!

I am a doorman, i see the trouble every weekend.

i.e the 10-15 people fighting next to the bridge on Sunday night.

http://AccyJay.piczo.com

KIPAX 29-08-2006 20:39

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
I am a doorman, i see the trouble every weekend.

i.e the 10-15 people fighting next to the bridge on Sunday night.

Yes there was an accyweb meet wasn't there.... I bet that mez started it .....


:)

AccyJay 29-08-2006 20:40

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Even the police need fed and watered. IF the effect of them "hanging around" is reduced crime then going for a brew and butties at 02:30 is not a sin.

I agree with the fact that they need a break, my point is that most of the people are coming out of the pubs between 2:30am and 3am. Don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-police, i think they do a great job, all i'm saying is that thier breaks could be at a diifferent time.

http://AccyJay.piczo.com

SPUGGIE J 29-08-2006 20:40

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
I am a doorman, i see the trouble every weekend.

i.e the 10-15 people fighting next to the bridge on Sunday night.

http://AccyJay.piczo.com

Better than in the pub. If these nambies want to kick what bit of brains they have out of each other then so be it. Chances are they aint working on Monday anyway. As a doorman you should be glad they are giving each other a doing and not yourself and the pubs regular well behaved patrons.

Tinkerbelle 29-08-2006 20:43

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
I am a doorman, i see the trouble every weekend.

i.e the 10-15 people fighting next to the bridge on Sunday night.

Well you of all people should know how much better Accy is at weekends now, compared to years ago when every Sunday night was fight night on Church St.

Tinkerbelle 29-08-2006 20:44

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
I agree with the fact that they need a break, my point is that most of the people are coming out of the pubs between 2:30am and 3am. Don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-police, i think they do a great job, all i'm saying is that thier breaks could be at a diifferent time.

Isn't it between 2-3am when their shift ends?

AccyJay 29-08-2006 20:45

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True. It just that there has been a lot more trouble in the past month or so.

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SPUGGIE J 29-08-2006 20:47

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Isn't it between 2-3am when their shift ends?

Thats the weirdest shift ending unless doing twelve hours:confused:

Tinkerbelle 29-08-2006 20:50

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Thats the weirdest shift ending unless doing twelve hours:confused:

I can't absolutely swear to it but I'm near sure as I can be that one shift finishes at 2am, the others come on at 2am, and they have an hour over lap for de-breifing and stuff.

AccyJay 29-08-2006 20:51

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Thats the weirdest shift ending unless doing twelve hours:confused:

Haven't got a clue. It does seem a strange time though

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KIPAX 29-08-2006 20:57

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
Don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-police, i think they do a great job,

If I can just pick up on this a moment... I don't recall seeing it ever mentioned on accyweb before...

I also believe the Accy police do a great job.. I have had lots of dealings with them for one reason and another (no I have NOT been naughty :) ) over the last year and I can say they really do a great but mostly thankless job.. its one of them jobs that everyone takes for granted but are quick to complain if they so much as put a foot out of place... But rarely if ever get the praise they deserve...

I wouldn't do it for all the tea in china :)

SPUGGIE J 29-08-2006 20:57

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
I can't absolutely swear to it but I'm near sure as I can be that one shift finishes at 2am, the others come on at 2am, and they have an hour over lap for de-breifing and stuff.

Are you saying that if the idiots wanted to cause an aggro sesh then there are no police around not even the canned kind? :eek:

AccyJay 29-08-2006 21:04

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"Canned kind"?

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Tinkerbelle 29-08-2006 21:06

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Are you saying that if the idiots wanted to cause an aggro sesh then there are no police around not even the canned kind? :eek:

No Spug I'm not saying that, I said I'm sure there is an over-lap. If I'm incorrect someone will be sure to know.

I'm with Kipax it is a mostly thankless task. So how about giving credit were it' due. OK so the cameras are down but it's only one tool that is helping them police the town centre.

AccyJay 29-08-2006 21:09

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
No Spug I'm not saying that, I said I'm sure there is an over-lap. If I'm incorrect someone will be sure to know.

I'm with Kipax it is a mostly thankless task. So how about giving credit were it' due. OK so the cameras are down but it's only one tool that is helping them police the town centre.

I'm not saying anything against the police, they only control the cameras. It's down to either Hyndburn council or Blackburn council.

http://AccyJay.piczo.com

Tinkerbelle 29-08-2006 21:15

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
Hense the fact that trouble on fri/sat night is on the increase.

It was that comment that gave me cause for concern AccyJay, without some form of proof except claiming to be door staff I think it's a little un-fair. Anybody reading this thread that was due a visit to Accy and maybe thought about having a look into town to check out our night life might have second thoughts after reading that.

SPUGGIE J 29-08-2006 21:25

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Dosnt matter how many cameras or police that are there for the safety of the public enjoying a night out there is always one or to Rodney's willing to have a fight.


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