Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Sounds like more junk mail to me. Did you know that if you contact the post office, you can arrange for them to stop stricking this rubbish through your letter box? It also means that you will have more room in your recyclying box. So get in touch with them today.

Originally Posted by g jones

Having read the thread, it's disapopinting that people have lost belief. Greed and intolerance have taken over. Government's pander to factional groups through focus groupings based on swing voters as well as appealing with the lowest form of politics, pandering to the greedy self within people. A situation Kennedy appealed against famously; 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country'.

To be honest how many people bother in their neighbourhoods anymore? The simplest form of politics (where governments can't be blamed), such as picking up litter on the street, to going out and tackling other neighbourhood problems. Or ignore the problems, leave it to others, blame everyone else and close the front door, how many people every year vote for that? Too many. "There's no such thing as Society".

Originally Posted by cashman

as someone who has voted for the best part of 40 years religiously, i am now at the stage that i would rather have my teeth pulled out with pliers than ever vote again for ANY of these useless,egotistical,lying, pieces of DUNG. and i,m not a child rindy.;)

Originally Posted by cashman

seems someones a bit touchy?:D

Originally Posted by cashman

seems someones a bit touchy?:D

Originally Posted by g jones

and tackling other neighbourhood problems. Or ignore the problems, leave it to others, blame everyone else and close the front door, how many people every year vote for that? Too many. "There's no such thing as Society".

Originally Posted by Madhatter

You mean like this

The managing director of an international company has told the Herald why he punched a 16-year-old hooligan - and why he would be prepared to do it again.

Linda Ram

Dean White says the teenage tearaway and his gang had leapt over a five-foot fence to intimidate and hurl abuse at him, his wife and two daughters on the drive of their Fazeley home.

"I felt my family was in danger," Mr White, the boss of a firm in Coventry, said.

"I don't regret my actions and if similar circumstances arose again, I would do the same thing, because in a situation like that you are under threat."

The 45-year-old then found himself at the centre of a police investigation after officers caught the youth, who then said he wanted to press charges against Mr White.

"I stood up to these morons and yet I was the one being investigated. My teenage daughters were on the drive and also being subjected to very violent behaviour - we were all very frightened."

The nightmare unfolded one night last week when a gang of boys and girls - said to have clearly been drinking - were being rowdy in the street.

As Mr White also had his three-month-old grandson in the house, he and his wife went outside to ask them to move along.

But they were met with a volley of abuse, foul language and threatening behaviour.

Five of the gang scaled the fence which protects the family home and jumped onto their drive.

"It was five on one. They had backed me up to the front door and one of them was right in my face. He would have hit me, so I punched him.

"I was exercising my right to defend myself, my wife, my children, my grandson and my property.

"I would be gobsmacked if they said there were still charges to answer."

Mr White feels more should be done about antisocial behaviour before things get out of hand.

"Enough is enough!" he added.

"If the council and the police do not clamp down on this sort of unruly behaviour, then it will force vigilantes onto our streets."

The youth later dropped the charges against Mr White, who is now unlikely to be prosecuted.

Police say they will be looking into the problems in the area caused by youths.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Exactly what I was getting at! I know it's become a cliche now, but the law is weighted in favour of criminals to the detriment of ordinary citizens. And your government have done nothing about it, Graham!

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

So, Graham, what happens if you tackle these "neighbourhood problems"? At best, you get a mouthful of abuse from the scum or at worst, you get a good beating and, in some instances, lose your life. Then, what happens to the prepetrators? They get a ridiculously light prison sentence with of course early release. And what have your government done in the last nine years to remedy this situation? Despite tough talking from successive home secretaries (including the latest incumbent, John Reid), zilch!

So, instead of coming on here, lecturing us about what we're not doing, why don't you tell your government to adopt a sensible law and order policy - ie, murderers locked up for the rest of their lives and other violent thugs and indeed criminals in general locked up for much longer periods in extremely spartan conditions. Or does that offend your liberal sensibilities?