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Ianto.W. 19-09-2006 11:52

Cattle and Greenhouse Gas.
 
:engsmil: An Irish scientist, has discovered that twenty nine per cent of their
greenhouse gas emissions, come from the front and rear of cattle.
Methane gas is one of the worst things for trapping co2 in the atmosphere, New Zealand also puts aprox 40 tons of methane out, how are they going to meet their commitments to the Kyoto Treaty? :confused:

SPUGGIE J 19-09-2006 12:11

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.
:engsmil: An Irish scientist, has discovered that twenty nine per cent of their
greenhouse gas emissions, come from the front and rear of cattle.
Methane gas is one of the worst things for trapping co2 in the atmosphere, New Zealand also puts aprox 40 tons of methane out, how are they going to meet their commitments to the Kyoto Treaty? :confused:

Is this one of the usual threads you post or something serious?

If serious then the global warming issue is worse than we are being lead to believeand unfortunatelay the one cure seems to have a slight health problem as there aint gonna be enough left soon. I am refering to trees as they use carbon dioxide to make food and release oxygen. So in essence we are not only cooking ourselves but slowly heading towards sufficating ourselves as well.

On a lighter note how much greenhouse gas does 6 billion people produce in a year when breathing farting and burping? Cant just do away with all New Zealand and Australias sheep South America's cattle or vegitarians because of a "gas" problem.

chav1 19-09-2006 12:22

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cow flatulance lol

well i guess that i am helping teh planet coz ime eating the bloody cow

shame on you vegitarians :rolleyes:

Ianto.W. 19-09-2006 12:52

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:engsmil: Of course this is a serious thread, what I want to know is how are they going to deal with it, what nature of tax are they going to impose on the worse offenders. better still what will they call the tax? :confused:

SPUGGIE J 19-09-2006 13:25

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They could tax cattle and sheep based on ther emmisions same as cars. Snag is a cow with a serious gas problem might be slaughtered to save some cash and Chavs steak n chips price will increase 5 fold.

WillowTheWhisp 19-09-2006 13:32

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Simple - every dairy and beef farmer must plant one tree per cow.

lettie 19-09-2006 16:45

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Actually the New Zealand government did try to impose a tax (the fart tax) a few years ago....

Like most fart related issues there was no real substance to it and was just a lot of hot air...:D

Ianto.W. 19-09-2006 19:21

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Originally Posted by lettie
Actually the New Zealand government did try to impose a tax (the fart tax) a few years ago....

Like most fart related issues there was no real substance to it and was just a lot of hot air...:D

:engsmil: Lettie I must take issue with you on the tax, they tried to impose a 'hot air' tax, but the farmers started a group called, Farmers Against Stupid Taxes, F.A.R.T. for short.
Another suggestion put forward by the powers that be, was (and I jest not) was getting the cows to try to hold their wind!:engsmil:

lettie 20-09-2006 16:48

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.
:engsmil: Lettie I must take issue with you on the tax, they tried to impose a 'hot air' tax, but the farmers started a group called, Farmers Against Stupid Taxes, F.A.R.T. for short.
Another suggestion put forward by the powers that be, was (and I jest not) was getting the cows to try to hold their wind!:engsmil:

What issue are you taking with me exactly??????? You have just more or less said what I said..

I don't understand where the issue is..:confused:

WillowTheWhisp 20-09-2006 17:57

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How can Farmers Against Stupid Taxes be shortened to the acronym F.A.R.T. ?

Ianto.W. 20-09-2006 20:02

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
How can Farmers Against Stupid Taxes be shortened to the acronym F.A.R.T. ?

It's called spot the deliberate
mistake this thread was put in the wrong place "by me" stupid as I am,
please mr moderator will you move it to anything goes as it is complete codswallop. sorr------e.:D :D :D

SPUGGIE J 20-09-2006 23:18

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.
It's called spot the deliberate
mistake this thread was put in the wrong place "by me" stupid as I am,
please mr moderator will you move it to anything goes as it is complete codswallop. sorr------e.:D :D :D

Well if all that waste gas is causing trouble and aiding global warming then how can it be codswallop? Global warming is a big issue and it is not just industry that is to blame. Ok it sounds daft that sheep and cattle can add to the problem but think how many there are just to feed and cloth us. As I stated we need tha Amazon but its being destroyed by loggers, the algie in the sea can absorb some but as the sea gets warmer they die off so the 2 possible saviours are taking a beating and in the end we are the losers.

Hell there is enough crud comes out of the refinery up here to help warm the planet. And they cant deny it is only a small problem when it snows and everywere is covered and Grangemouth isnt due to the candles at that place. Also on a bad day you can smell and taste what goes into the air.

WillowTheWhisp 21-09-2006 08:08

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Crikey Ianto, talk about over reacting. I only asked how they managed to get the acronym FART when the third word began with S. :rolleyes:

Tealeaf 21-09-2006 09:49

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Why don't they just stick one end of a tube up the cow's arse, the other end to a gas bottle on it's back and when that gets full, feed it into the national grid, thus preserving our precious supplies of North Sea gas?

SPUGGIE J 21-09-2006 10:13

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Why don't they just stick one end of a tube up the cow's arse, the other end to a gas bottle on it's back and when that gets full, feed it into the national grid, thus preserving our precious supplies of North Sea gas?

Tealeaf thats :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: animal rights would have a field day. We get sugar free fat free additives and preservative free food yet science cant stop a cow munching grass from having a gas problem. Anyone that came up with a cure whould be rich beyond ther wildest dreams.

Ianto.W. 21-09-2006 11:06

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Why don't they just stick one end of a tube up the cow's arse, the other end to a gas bottle on it's back and when that gets full, feed it into the national grid, thus preserving our precious supplies of North Sea gas?

;) Good idea Tealeaf, while threre at it give the farmers free supplies of baked beans instead of subsidies, then they can 'can' the gas and sell it to. :cool:

Ianto.W. 21-09-2006 11:27

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Originally Posted by lettie
What issue are you taking with me exactly??????? You have just more or less said what I said..

I don't understand where the issue is..:confused:

;) No lettie the New Zealand government wanted to impose the 'flatulence' tax, so the farmers formed the 'farmers against stupid taxes' F.A.R.T. for short action group.
Apologies for any misunderstanding. ;)

lettie 21-09-2006 14:15

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
How can Farmers Against Stupid Taxes be shortened to the acronym F.A.R.T. ?

The acronym F.A.R.T. actually stands for Farmers Against Ridiculous Taxes. I'm pretty sure that this all kicked off in 2003, I know that it was shortly before I got there the first time I visited. The actual 'fart tax' was aimed at funding research into ways to reduce the emissions of livestock, not just to tax the farmers.... When they looked at reducing these emissions they thought of perhaps modifying the animal's diets or giving some sort of dietry or pharmacological supplement to reduce the emissions. Unfortunately the people of NZ are very wary of any sort of modified food and suspicious of GM foods (and quite rightly so). There is no way that the people who I met there would eat anything that they knew had been tampered with. Fresh actually means fresh over there too, not fresh frozen like here...

It has been found that NZ livestock do produce significantly more gas than their European cattle and sheep cousins.....attributed to NZ livestock having a fresher and more natural diet with less additives, drugs and interference...

I have to admit that fresh NZ lamb, beef and venison are amongst the best meats I have ever tasted. They taste like real meat used to do when I was a kid.....

Ianto.W. 21-09-2006 14:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lettie
The acronym F.A.R.T. actually stands for Farmers Against Ridiculous Taxes. I'm pretty sure that this all kicked off in 2003, I know that it was shortly before I got there the first time I visited. The actual 'fart tax' was aimed at funding research into ways to reduce the emissions of livestock, not just to tax the farmers.... When they looked at reducing these emissions they thought of perhaps modifying the animal's diets or giving some sort of dietry or pharmacological supplement to reduce the emissions. Unfortunately the people of NZ are very wary of any sort of modified food and suspicious of GM foods (and quite rightly so). There is no way that the people who I met there would eat anything that they knew had been tampered with. Fresh actually means fresh over there too, not fresh frozen like here...

It has been found that NZ livestock do produce significantly more gas than their European cattle and sheep cousins.....attributed to NZ livestock having a fresher and more natural diet with less additives, drugs and interference...

I have to admit that fresh NZ lamb, beef and venison are amongst the best meats I have ever tasted. They taste like real meat used to do when I was a kid.....

:cool: Iv'e done again Lettie, I must be developing
'lisdexia', mistaking ridiculous for serious, yes the New Zealand farmers are
excellent, They alone in the developed world receive no subsidies. since these were abolished, agriculture has been the fastest growing sector of the country's economy, they can still ship it half way round the world, and
compete on price with Britain and lavishly-subsidised counterparts in the
E.U. :cool:

SPUGGIE J 21-09-2006 19:42

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Originally Posted by lettie
I have to admit that fresh NZ lamb, beef and venison are amongst the best meats I have ever tasted. They taste like real meat used to do when I was a kid.....


Was that back in the dark ages?????

Its a pity the nearest I get to real meat is from the farmers market as at least it has been hung properly and dosnt look like its previous owner was force fed steroids while stood in a stall.

Ianto.W. 24-09-2006 12:58

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:engsmil: At least Ireland as yet hasn't announced any plans to do the same.
But the really terrifying thought, is that, when Defra works out that Britain
has even more sheep an cattle than either of these countries, our own Labour government may come up with the bright idea that Britain must save the planet by following New Zealands example.

WillowTheWhisp 24-09-2006 14:07

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Ah that makes more sense now Lettie. We were only talking earlier today about the additives in food, even "fresh" stuff with all its pesticides and the concoctions given as animal feeds. Good on the New Zealnders for sticking up fo the natural approach. So their animals produce more bottom burps? Maybe the answer would be to grow more trees then or stop hacking down what we've got and let nature compensate in a natural way.

SPUGGIE J 24-09-2006 14:58

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As there has been that much damage to natures answer to "bad emissions" that we cant aford to wait for it to catch up. So we have to take drastic acction to cure this problem. If we hadnt worn blinkers been greedy and in some cases breeding faster than rodents we would be in as much of a mess. We have only ourselves to blame and cannot hold anyone or thing responsible for our mess.

Ianto.W. 24-09-2006 19:02

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
Ah that makes more sense now Lettie. We were only talking earlier today about the additives in food, even "fresh" stuff with all its pesticides and the concoctions given as animal feeds. Good on the New Zealnders for sticking up fo the natural approach. So their animals produce more bottom burps? Maybe the answer would be to grow more trees then or stop hacking down what we've got and let nature compensate in a natural way.

Go along with that willow as long as the trees are indiginous, the way the Lord intended, or nature , or Charles Darwin, or whoaver seeks to lay claim to salvation. (for my sake no bad karma plea-----------se.)


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