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Tealeaf 25-09-2006 12:20

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I'm surprised that no one else has already commented upon this. Apparently, at last weeks council meeting, Councillor Jones (Graham to all his mates on here) proposed a motion condeming the intended changes to Accy Post Office. After a fair bit of verbal argy-bargy, a certain Councillor Hayes invited Councillor Jones outside so that he could rip his head off....or words to that effect.

This sort of beheaviour, is of course, deplorable. It is no different from that of all those drunken yobs fighting and puking their way up and down the streets of town-centre Accy every saturday night. However, I seem to recall that a couple of years ago, in a hard-hitting initiative, HBC appointed it's very own Crime Tsar in order to crack down on this sort of thing. Unfortunatly, I cannot remember his name...can anyone help?

poppy 25-09-2006 12:41

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mountains molehills ott

Ianto.W. 25-09-2006 12:45

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:engsmil: I thought the referee did a sterling job, time they were brought before a panel of the general public, the watered down version of events reported will be only 'skimming over' what really went on. :cool:

chav1 25-09-2006 12:52

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i wonder if they will introduce a$$ kickings for people who are late with poll tax etc :eek:

the nut shoulda been sacked on the spot and banned form the town hall :)

WillowTheWhisp 25-09-2006 12:57

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Well Mr. T he must have been selected on the grounds of personal suitability then. ;)

chav1 25-09-2006 13:18

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hey graham if you look on ebay ime sure you will be able to find a head guard and a baseball bat in time for teh next meeting ;)

Tealeaf 25-09-2006 13:23

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Can anyone remember the name of the Crime Tsar? Would he have been present at the meeting? He was a councillor afterall.....just what was his name? I seem to recall we had a thread on this some time ago.

Ianto.W. 25-09-2006 14:01

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Can anyone remember the name of the Crime Tsar? Would he have been present at the meeting? He was a councillor afterall.....just what was his name? I seem to recall we had a thread on this some time ago.

;) I don't realy know how to put this, can't ask George Carman. was his initials, D.H, :confused:

WillowTheWhisp 25-09-2006 16:01

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Can anyone remember the name of the Crime Tsar? Would he have been present at the meeting? He was a councillor afterall.....just what was his name? I seem to recall we had a thread on this some time ago.

No I can't remember his name at all ;)

SPUGGIE J 25-09-2006 19:13

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Who said politics is boring? Sounds like if you want to see a good boxing match the town hall is the place to be. Now who gave the lessons on brawling in the first place to councillors? What happened to them being upstanding (or is that standing counts) pillars of the community?

Ianto.W. 25-09-2006 19:51

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No I can't remember his name at all ;)

Course you can name him and shame him stop pussyfooting around it's not my thread, it's tealeaf's, so keep e'm in suspense. :D

Neil 25-09-2006 20:02

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I think it would have been quite funny to see that.

Bagpuss 25-09-2006 21:34

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That Mr Doug Hayes has needed bringing down a peg or two for years, snotty nosed etc.........

Before you start I'm not Labour I just vote for the best candidate at the time of an election.

Neil 25-09-2006 21:36

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I wonder if he will do the right thing and apologise for his pathetic outburst by resigning his seat.

WillowTheWhisp 25-09-2006 21:42

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.
Course you can name him and shame him stop pussyfooting around it's not my thread, it's tealeaf's, so keep e'm in suspense. :D

There's a hyperlink there Ianto. My text was tongue in cheek - hence the ;)

cashman 25-09-2006 22:53

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perhaps it should be T.H. Thug Hayes pmsl.

cashman 25-09-2006 22:58

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perhaps it should be T.H. Thug Hayes pmsl:D

Ianto.W. 26-09-2006 12:47

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
There's a hyperlink there Ianto. My text was tongue in cheek - hence the ;)

:D Thanks for tip Willow the pennys just dropped, you'r a cagey customer i'll be bound, upstairs for thinking etc cheers. ;)

Tealeaf 26-09-2006 13:09

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Well, it now looks like Ossy is going to lose it's last post office; this is getting to be exciting stuff. I trust we can look forward to another motion being proposed at the next council meeting, followed by lots of punching, head-butting, eye-gouging, kicks in the goolies, etc, etc. Do we have a firm date for this next meeting? How many tickets are available for the public gallery -and are they available in advance, possibly on the net? I think I shall make plans to be in Accy that night.

Neil 26-09-2006 13:15

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
After a fair bit of verbal argy-bargy, a certain Councillor Hayes invited Councillor Jones outside so that he could rip his head off....or words to that effect.

I had a phone call this morning from an ex Council Officer I know, I told her this story as she will know both of them. I thought she was going to wet herself at the thought of Cllr Hayes fighting. :D :D :D

Tealeaf 26-09-2006 13:20

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..'Owd on. I don't think Cllr Hayes was appointed Crime Tsar for nowt. Rumour at the time had it he was a closet hard man - and surely it is no coincidence that since this incident last week we have heard nothing from Graham. Is Cllr Jones cowering away somewhere?

Gayle 26-09-2006 15:28

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I think you'll find that Cllr Jones is a bit busy this week - as are a number of the Labour party - little thing called a conference going on.

WillowTheWhisp 26-09-2006 16:01

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:D Thanks for tip Willow the pennys just dropped, you'r a cagey customer i'll be bound, upstairs for thinking etc cheers. ;)

:) Cagey? me? Heaven forfend!!!!

Ianto.W. 26-09-2006 18:17

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I think you'll find that Cllr Jones is a bit busy this week - as are a number of the Labour party - little thing called a conference going on.

:engsmil: I'm glad you said it was a little thing, Tony Blair on Tony Blair, sure is a 'little' thing. :rolleyes: :engsmil:

cashman 26-09-2006 23:54

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:engsmil: I'm glad you said it was a little thing, Tony Blair on Tony Blair, sure is a 'little' thing. :rolleyes: :engsmil:

wrong i think ianto.w he was big enough to take us to war.:(

Ianto.W. 27-09-2006 13:21

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:mad: My lips are sealed another anonomous removal for having an opinion!:mad:

g jones 28-09-2006 16:52

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Tensions seem to be running high in the Conservative Party locally. I am sure Doug didn't really mean it though he was involved in an unsavoury incident with Stan Horne in the Ossy Con a couple of years back. Stan gave Doug a backeye, a Tory Councillor present at the time told us later. Stan Horne (Conservative) is standing for the Rishton by-election next month as a matter of interest.

Quite honestly it is deplorable that Councillors behave this way. When I got elected Stan Horne went to a relative of mine and in their opinion, spent the whole conversation 'fishing for any dirt' on me. With parts of the Government being perceived the way they are it is hard for members of the public in Hyndburn to fully appreciate that The Council is further away from progress than when the Conservatives first took over. It's quite sad people don't vote on local issues.

The Conservatives have been unable to run the Council to be truthful, relying on an awful lot of mis-information and an avalanche of 'good news' press releases from Peter Britcliffe (and more recently 'potential' Tory Candidate for MP, Tony Dobson).

The constitution has been rigged at the Council to give the opposition very little opportunity to speak. The opposition is allowed 2 debates a year. However they can only propose them and speak during the debate. Peter Britcliffe insisted that he must be able to sum up the opposition debate and changed the constitution accordingly.

This does not prevent us putting motions forward but this always results in Conservatives using their bigger block vote to always seek to humble Labour Councillors irrespective of the issue.

I was frank on the night (and if you read the resolution), realistic about the situation but, as always, the Conservatives turned it into a playground argument which was disapointing.

I believe that if more people sat in the gallery we would have a more honest debate which is what the Borough desperatly needs instead of the monopoly axis of PB and the OB.

Anyone can attend Full Council meetings. There is a public gallery that hold about 40-50. The next meeting is this Wednesday at 7pm to try and have one last effort to save our Crown Post Office. Or ring 388111 and ask when future meetings are.

garinda 28-09-2006 16:59

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Its still such a pity that Peter Britcliffe doesn't fancy a bit of banter or verbal fistycuffs with us here at Accy Web, even though he must read it as he's quoted things we've said here.


Sadly we'll have to make do reading his column in the Observer, which as Graham points out, is just a vehicle for political spin. This week he tells us that Hyndburn is a property hot-spot. Hardly good news if you are a young couple trying to get on the housing chain. He also says it was featured on 'Kirsty and Phil's 'Location, location' programme'. It wasn't. It was a programme hosted by the said duo, but was called 'Top Ten Places to Buy', and was aired five months ago.

Come on Peter, keep it accurate and topical.;)

Less 28-09-2006 17:01

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Sadly we'll have to make do reading his column in the Observer, which as Graham points out, is just a vehicle for political spin. This week he tells us that H

Did you stop there just to see if people actually read your posts before they go on to give you abuse?:D

Come on what H did he tell us about?
:eek:

well how strange after I'd posted this the rest of your post appeared!:confused:

garinda 28-09-2006 17:06

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Did you stop there just to see if people actually read your posts before they go on to give you abuse?:D

Come on what H did he tell us about?
:eek:

well how strange after I'd posted this the rest of your post appeared!:confused:


Lol, I don't know what happened there.

I'll blame my shakey hand hitting a send button.:D

g jones 28-09-2006 17:11

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Originally Posted by garinda
Its still such a pity that Peter Britcliffe doesn't fancy a bit of banter or verbal fistycuffs with us here at Accy Web, even though he must read it as he's quoted things we've said here.


Sadly we'll have to make do reading his column in the Observer, which as Graham points out, is just a vehicle for political spin. This week he tells us that Hyndburn is a property hot-spot. Hardly good news if you are a young couple trying to get on the housing chain. He also says it was featured on 'Kirsty and Phil's 'Location, location' programme'. It wasn't. It was a programme hosted by the said duo, but was called 'Top Ten Places to Buy', and was aired five months ago.

Come on Peter, keep it accurate and topical.;)

Peter lusts for any headlines. Any. If a syndicate won a big lottery payout I would expect Peter to say;

"we welcome this money coming into the Borough. Under our careful, responsible leadership the area is on the up. This money will benefit many people in future jobs and investment and highlights how Conservative are working hard to make Hyndburn a better place."

garinda 28-09-2006 17:14

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Oh, and he was crowing on about Subway coming to Accrington. Though as you pointed out, he was still reticent to name the other forty new businesses that he announced had opened in Hyndburn in the last year.

SPUGGIE J 28-09-2006 17:38

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Oh, and he was crowing on about Subway coming to Accrington. Though as you pointed out, he was still reticent to name the other forty new businesses that he announced had opened in Hyndburn in the last year.

How many of these have now closed or closing down? That could be the reason for being tight lipped either that or he is playing frissbie with cow pats. Does this mean at the next get together in the council boxing ring PB is the challanger?

garinda 28-09-2006 17:41

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
How many of these have now closed or closing down? That could be the reason for being tight lipped either that or he is playing frissbie with cow pats. Does this mean at the next get together in the council boxing ring PB is the challanger?

He didn't say, but Peter's Frock Shop is still going strong.:D

SPUGGIE J 28-09-2006 17:43

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Peter lusts for any headlines. Any. If a syndicate won a big lottery payout I would expect Peter to say;

"we welcome this money coming into the Borough. Under our careful, responsible leadership the area is on the up. This money will benefit many people in future jobs and investment and highlights how Conservative are working hard to make Hyndburn a better place."


Wouldnt trust them with monopoly money. So just to keep em happy

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