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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/i/t.gif Adulthood comes early under Cameron


An interesting article, but we had a similar discussion a month or so ago and I seem to remember the thought of giving sixteen year olds more responsibility in that thread. Our version was a little simpler and would be less expensive to administer though.

However this comment from one of the young people present at the time, I consider to be uncalled for,

Of course he does, he would never, speak out of his elbow!:p

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This sounds quite hopeful and encouraging.

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I dont get this thread =/.

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The idea that younger people/teenagers who act responsibly, will be rewarded by being able to go into pubs earlier than they can at present, and also place bets, is one of the most idiotic political ideas that I've heard.

What a long, desperate way the Tories have travelled from the bring back National Service, and the short sharp shock tactics, of the Thatcher era.

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I actually think it would be a good idea. I mean, Im 17.. and so are most of my mates.. and legally, we arent allowed to go to pubs & clubs down town etc.. to have a drink.. but we do as we act sensibly enough.. and basically there's nothing much more to do for college bums our age..

Good question actually.. do you think it is okay for people my age, (grown up - bare in mind) to go out and have a quiet drink at the weekend?

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The main problem with this issue, is that the Tories say that you'll have to take a test to prove that you are grown up enough. What's to say that you pass the test, but when you go out, you may be a complete arse after a couple of drinks. Also, every single licensee would have to apply for an amendment to their current lisence.

:eek:

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Yeah its a silly idea.. but I think Police shouldnt be so harsh on people my age (older 17's - nearly 18) going into the pub, even though I've never had an encounter with the Police on a night out.

What do you think they would do if they asked for my ID when on a night out, and found I was 17? And had been having a few drinks? (Not drunk btw)..

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It's not against the law for you to have a drink in a pub or club. However, it is illegal for you to buy alcohol, or for somebody else to buy it for you. The person that either sold you the drinks or purchased them for you could be prosecuted.

You'd probably get a lecture & told to go home.

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& a lot older in some cases.

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Why not lower the age to 17 then we can have all the older 16 year olds saying it's wrong. In thats case lets lower it to 16 and we can have all the older 15 yr olds saying it's wrong etc etc etc. There has to be a legal age that is clearly defined.

Personally I would raise it to 21 :D

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You can tell you've been to an accyweb meet :D

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So its not against the law for me to have a drink in a pub or a club.. yet I cant buy any drink.. or have someone buy it for me.

Also, if it is not illegal.. why do bouncers not let people in if they are 'underage'? Surely it must be illegal?

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:eek: thats me b*ggered then:D

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Yes, of course. I wouldnt expect it to become a written law. But maybe the Police could turn a blind eye to 17 year olds etc.. behaving themselves on a night out..

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Where do you draw the line though? Car crime? "honestly officer, i only took the car for a short time".

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Dress older.

I was out clubbing aged 12.:D

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Doesn't always work. Hyndburn has the "Challenge 21" scheme. Whereby, anyone that appears to be under 21 years old, must be asked for identification.

:(

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OK, dress older, act older, don't get pished, and you'll be fine.:D

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The fact is that, the police are coming down a lot harder on those that supply alcohol to the underage people these days. One of the town centre pubs got caught last week. The manager was fined £2000, the member of staff that served them was fined £80 & then sacked.

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That's a good point morgan, Accyjay ? what is your guidance on this point and is he correct ?

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No, he's not correct, as i stated earlier. The "doormen" won't let under 18's in because, in most cases it's a term of the premises license that no person under the age of 18 years old, be allowed on the premises after a certain time (i.e. 7pm).

Where it is part of the premises license, should any under 18's be allowed in, the license is then in-valid. Therefore the pub / club must close. Hope this makes sense.

:)

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So what you saying above ^ is that 16 year olds are allowed in but with restrictions i.e. not after 7 a.m. ? Clubs very rarely open before this time surely.... yes, I am very confused now. :confused:

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Don't understand a word of that Accyjay. ????

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I always thought you were allowed in a pub at 16 without an adult as long as you drank non-alcoholic stuff. Under the age of 16 you had to have an adult with you and be out of the pub by 8pm.

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There are also different rules where there is food being served too, isn't there ? but they can stay in until 9 (like the one next to Burnley cinema) ... well, in some places is later .. more confused now.

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This wasn't meant to end up a legal/illegal yoof drinking thread, I think the young have far more to offer but are not allowed the chance to prove themselves, if we are going to force them into a you are not able to decide for yourself situation, then why are they allowed to have sex at 16? If an important decision such as that can be left to their 'indiscretion', then so should drinking and which is the next idiot you are going to vote for, after all, the former will have a greater immediate effect!

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I got this from the Essex police website. Hope it makes thing a bit clearer.


*Please note that Hyndburn's licensed premises are only allowed to accept a valid passport or a photo driving licence.

Advice - Licensing law and guidelines

Erowid Alcohol Vaults : Law : Alcohol Drinking Age in the U.K. (England, Scotland, Wales)

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Doormen can refuse admission to anyone regardless what their age is, a man of 70 was asked to leave a town centre pub, for chatting to young girls, the fact that they were his grandchildren did not wash with them, they thought he was a dirty old man and he had to go.
Yes I do agree young people should be allowed in pub's, most of us have drunk underage so why not under supervision of an adult.

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Really gets me does that!! that if you have passport or drving licence [photo] then you are sorted but what about those that have neither - both costs a fortune as legitimate reason - again have a go at the poor folk again if u cant afford to go abroad or drive a car then u aint going to bother to pay out a fortune for passport or licence when u wont use it cept for ID reasons!:mad:

Gee makes u wonder how we managed all those decades ago:rolleyes:

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The cost of a provisional UK driving license is currently £38. If you think how much you spend on a night out, then in most cases this just means that you have to stay in one weekend to cover the cost. In my opinion this has to be worth it, if only to ensure that you can get into all the pubs.

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B*ll*cks!!! am i doing that - who is making the money out of it all DVLA & passport mmmm gov has its hand in there doesn't it!!

I am not getting a licence or passport purely for the sake of drinking in our divey pubs - thank you, you get a passport to go abroad you get a licence to drive a car - not to drink in yer own country!! Yet we have serious immigration problems mmmm get real:mad:

If thats the case you needing ID even to p*ss in this country then bring in ID cards supplied free to all UK citizens, why should u have to pay just to prove you are you!

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I can see why our youth take to the streets to drink, so really does it solve the problem ID doesn't get asked certainly in particular shops!!

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There used to be other forms of photo ID that were acceptable. These were available online, but it got to the stage were they were being forged.