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Less · 31-10-2006, 15:04

Adulthood comes early under Cameron

An interesting article, but we had a similar discussion a month or so ago and I seem to remember the thought of giving sixteen year olds more responsibility in that thread. Our version was a little simpler and would be less expensive to administer though.

However this comment from one of the young people present at the time, I consider to be uncalled for,

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"You do not know your arse from your elbow, you bastard."

Of course he does, he would never, speak out of his elbow!

WillowTheWhisp · 31-10-2006, 15:11

This sounds quite hopeful and encouraging.

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Research published today by the YAT shows that 92 per cent of young people want to be home-owners and 80 per cent want to get married. Eighty-two per cent believe the family is important.

A Home Office survey found that 16 to 24 years was the age group most likely to volunteer.

Tory officials said Mr Cameron wanted to create a system in which there were active incentives for young people to become model citizens.

morgan_brotherz · 31-10-2006, 15:34

I dont get this thread =/.

garinda · 31-10-2006, 15:40

The idea that younger people/teenagers who act responsibly, will be rewarded by being able to go into pubs earlier than they can at present, and also place bets, is one of the most idiotic political ideas that I've heard.

What a long, desperate way the Tories have travelled from the bring back National Service, and the short sharp shock tactics, of the Thatcher era.

morgan_brotherz · 31-10-2006, 16:27

I actually think it would be a good idea. I mean, Im 17.. and so are most of my mates.. and legally, we arent allowed to go to pubs & clubs down town etc.. to have a drink.. but we do as we act sensibly enough.. and basically there's nothing much more to do for college bums our age..

Good question actually.. do you think it is okay for people my age, (grown up - bare in mind) to go out and have a quiet drink at the weekend?

AccyJay · 31-10-2006, 16:36

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Originally Posted by morgan_brotherz

I actually think it would be a good idea. I mean, Im 17.. and so are most of my mates.. and legally, we arent allowed to go to pubs & clubs down town etc.. to have a drink.. but we do as we act sensibly enough.. and basically there's nothing much more to do for college bums our age..

Good question actually.. do you think it is okay for people my age, (grown up - bare in mind) to go out and have a quiet drink at the weekend?

The main problem with this issue, is that the Tories say that you'll have to take a test to prove that you are grown up enough. What's to say that you pass the test, but when you go out, you may be a complete arse after a couple of drinks. Also, every single licensee would have to apply for an amendment to their current lisence.

morgan_brotherz · 31-10-2006, 16:43

Yeah its a silly idea.. but I think Police shouldnt be so harsh on people my age (older 17's - nearly 18) going into the pub, even though I've never had an encounter with the Police on a night out.

What do you think they would do if they asked for my ID when on a night out, and found I was 17? And had been having a few drinks? (Not drunk btw)..

AccyJay · 31-10-2006, 16:53

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Originally Posted by morgan_brotherz

Yeah its a silly idea.. but I think Police shouldnt be so harsh on people my age (older 17's - nearly 18) going into the pub, even though I've never had an encounter with the Police on a night out.

What do you think they would do if they asked for my ID when on a night out, and found I was 17? And had been having a few drinks? (Not drunk btw)..

It's not against the law for you to have a drink in a pub or club. However, it is illegal for you to buy alcohol, or for somebody else to buy it for you. The person that either sold you the drinks or purchased them for you could be prosecuted.

You'd probably get a lecture & told to go home.

WillowTheWhisp · 31-10-2006, 16:54

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Originally Posted by AccyJay

What's to say that you pass the test, but when you go out, you may be a complete arse after a couple of drinks.

You mean like some 18, 19 20 year olds do?

AccyJay · 31-10-2006, 16:55

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

You mean like some 18, 19 20 year olds do?

& a lot older in some cases.

WillowTheWhisp · 31-10-2006, 16:56

How true............

lancsdave · 31-10-2006, 16:58

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Originally Posted by morgan_brotherz

but I think Police shouldnt be so harsh on people my age (older 17's - nearly 18) going into the pub,

Why not lower the age to 17 then we can have all the older 16 year olds saying it's wrong. In thats case lets lower it to 16 and we can have all the older 15 yr olds saying it's wrong etc etc etc. There has to be a legal age that is clearly defined.

Personally I would raise it to 21

lancsdave · 31-10-2006, 16:59

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Originally Posted by AccyJay

& a lot older in some cases.

You can tell you've been to an accyweb meet

morgan_brotherz · 31-10-2006, 17:00

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Originally Posted by AccyJay

It's not against the law for you to have a drink in a pub or club. However, it is illegal for you to buy alcohol, or for somebody else to buy it for you. The person that either sold you the drinks or purchased them for you could be prosecuted.

You'd probably get a lecture & told to go home.

So its not against the law for me to have a drink in a pub or a club.. yet I cant buy any drink.. or have someone buy it for me.

Also, if it is not illegal.. why do bouncers not let people in if they are 'underage'? Surely it must be illegal?

accymel · 31-10-2006, 17:01

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Originally Posted by AccyJay

that you'll have to take a test to prove that you are grown up enough. What's to say that you pass the test, but when you go out, you may be a complete arse after a couple of drinks.

thats me b*ggered then