Gay Parade For Accy
Tonights Telegraph has an interview with a bloke who is pushing for a annual gay parade for Accrington.His reasons behind this idea is that Accy is missing out on the pink pound,there is no visible gay scene and as with Manchester & Blackpool,maybe a thriving gay scene would bring in international visitors who will spend & invest in the town.Anyway,the crunch question...how well do you think a gay parade will be welcomed through the streets of Accy?Will it be the big colourful mardi gras of say,Manchester(so i'm told) or ,as i think it would be,a bottle throwing,abuse giving,good day out for the chavs:rolleyes:
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that would be wicked to see, i'd definately go and watch it, gone are the days where gays where frowned upon, each to there own i say...and i think it would be a great idea :D
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I'd have nothing against it, it would only be strange because of the lack of gay scene in Accrington, there would be no reason for them to have one here and I dont think Accrington could attract the numbers that Manchester does.
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Well I have always wanted to go to manchester's gay festivals..............So I for one would go to the one in ACCRINGTON, and I wouldn't be throwing bottles.....why would I want to do that!!! people are what people are whether that is a tolerant person or a small minded bigot :(
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i just cant see it workin in accy 2 b honest
its like in south park when they try to get the gay parade there and it just goes all awry bring it on cartman! *L* |
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personally i think its a good idea but not for accy, the manchester one`s a great day out, even for families with a great atmosphere allround but in accrington i think there would be a lot of trouble caused by the narrow minded chav`s etc..... shame but true
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Found the story.
http://www.lancashireeveningtelegrap...pink_pound.php It would never work. Manchester has one of the biggest Pride festivals in the world, and it's so close to us here. Even cities like Glasgow and Edinburgh struggle to do anything like this, and find alternating the event between the two cities is the only way to attract enough support. I think it's just a way to publicise his shop...and besides he'd have no chance of being the Carnival Queen.:D |
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The positive posts so far on here so far though, I find heart warming, and makes me realise how far society has moved on.
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isnt that what i just said???
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also i think if there were any homophobes on here they wudnt exactly post that view on here
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Won't here be a float from Accy's Burberry clad wearin' gay/bi/transgender yoof group then?:D Can't see them getting the same crowds outside the Town Hall as they do in Brazil.;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...zil-45409.jpeg |
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oh uncle rindy i love you.....calling me young :D
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No chance of it working in accy.
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all the gays wud get battered
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I can't see it attracting a lot of outside visitors to Accy but you never know. If this chap thinks there should be one why doesn't he get together a group of like minded individuals and try to organise something - maybe they could get a grant. If the council would let them do it then why not. I sort of got the feeling he was wanting somebody else to do it though.
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can you imagine the hassle if the procession went down blackburn road
which minority would prevail ? gays would say its their right to have the parade muslim comunity would be outraged as from what i can gather homosexuality is severely frowned upon ive often wondered what happens when two minority groups have a problem with each other as to who gets favoured although the mulims could declare a jihad on the gays , the gays in retaliation could declare their clothes soooo last year and advise to accesorise anyone want to help me fund a new reality show.. queer eye for the jihad guy :D . |
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Sign me up now.:) |
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Why not, I think it would work, then we could see who would be in it, why don't we make a list from Accy web, I'm 4000 miles away:D so I'll start obviously Rindy......maybe Chav, Bagpuss?...Jambutty (that would be funny)..
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Basically Pride festivals are just a p*ss up, and a chance to see crap pop bands.
In the past I've been to them, usually with a mixed group of friends, and they can be a real laugh. The last one I seemed to remember being of my t*ts, and dancing on a stage in the Lesbian tent all day and night. However, I would be against tax payers money being used to fund it, just as I would be for any non-essential event. In the past I've been on political marches, but have never felt the need to parade down the street, pigeon holing myself into any particular group. Happily this government, and our MP, have helped right a lot of the legal and social inequalities that homosexuals and lesbians faced in the past. I'm fine if people want to celebrate with a carnival, but the real reason these events were started for in the early '70s, is no longer relevant. Time to leave the gheto mentality behind, and join the rest of society in just getting along, and living life. |
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well done and bravo no disrespect to your self but i dont admire you that much that i would want to be in that list so the maybe is a no no sory about your luck :rolleyes: |
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Bah, that bloomin' edit button.:D |
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trust chav to bring up the real reason for me agreeing with this parade
cudnt wait to get my hands on garinda :( thanks chav u just ruined my one chance |
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should i bring the gun or do yyou have other plans ? |
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Excuse me, butway out of both your leagues.
Besides I'm on a straight cycle at the moment.:D |
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:D You sound like a washing machine! |
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Doing his washing at the same time?
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We already have at least one puffter in Hyndburn. What do we need any more for?
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I thought Garinda was post-menocycle?
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monocycle? Are they the ones that it's hard to balance on?
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Atlanta has a huge Gay Pride Parade every year. Loads of fun. Sir Elton has a fashionable pad in town and loves it here. I'm not sure Accy could muster the numbers, though.
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If everybody was having a good time It would make a change from rioting....
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I think he should worry about getting his cataracts done, before he starts organising any festival.:D
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It will make a change from the BROWN POUND lot having their parades and marches.
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I fink we should have 1.... they have all other parades lol.
Is it gonna happen? Alec |
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One hairdresser with a Rainbow flag, doth not a festival make. If he was serious, he'd be better trying to organise a float for Accrington Carnival. Even the most successful ones in the UK lose money. |
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..and whistle sellers, and hotdog stands, and people selling beer at a fiver a plastic glass full.:D |
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I think the carnival float idea is a good one Rindy!
It would be great to attract a nightlife back into this town it used to be hard to beat it but I dont think the parade will do that. |
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It would be good if some money could be ploughed into Cross Street though. (Not necessarily tax payers money.) There's great potential down there. Maybe his little flag will inspire other people.
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I was only trying to help, that'll teach me! :D |
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It was good of you to offer him assistance. I don't know him, but I suspect the idea for an Accy Mardi Gras was just a way for him to get publicity for his business, and he had no intention of actually making it happen. Amongst other things, my godfather own's the UK's largest gay lifestyle chain of stores, he's also involved in running the festivals in London, Manchester and Brighton. Ticketed or free, they always lose money, even when well attended. which those three are. Gayle, I hope being discriminated against won't put you off offering your funding skills to other, more serious, people.:D |
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good thats one less non worthy thing the lottery gets to fund i wish more people were like him , err i mean like him as in telling teh lottery to stuff it i would say the same for any parade its about tiem the govenment let somone else have the lottery who has a better idea how to spend teh money |
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This is the same old argument. The funding is there to be used. If it wasn't for people like Gayle securing it, this area would miss out, and other areas would bag all the dosh. That's the system. You have to work with it, or miss out. Although I agree the system is flawed, and Branson's lottery bid, were all the profits went to good causes, was a much better idea. Sadly the government rejected that idea though. |
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I was sort of involved with the Pride Scotland celebrations for a couple of years. Even with those two great cities, Glasgow and Edinburgh, they had to alternate it between the two places each year, and that was with a whole social infrastructure of gay/lesbian/bi/transgender/whatever centre, bars, pubs, clubs, shops, and societies in both cities. Something little old Accrington doesn't have. In fact there are not even any gay social groups in Accy, the nearest is in Chorley. By the way, I'm not forcing anything down anyone's throats, but if anyone reading this does need any information relating to this topic, either advice, counselling, or just someone to talk to, the phone number for Lancashire Friend is on this link. http://www.ellgas.org.uk/ |
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So, maybe he didn't want to be in charge of organising one - just wanted someone else to come up with one. I'd like to see more events and things happening in Accy but I'd hate to have to be the one organising anything. Still no need to reject Gayle's offer of help quite so emphatically as she describes. :eek: |
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Who? There is no one else. Like I said, in my opinion just a ruse for a bit of publicity for his shop. As I said earlier, if he was really serious, a float in the town carnival would be a better start, and show that the gays and lesbians that live in Hyndburn are part of the larger community, not seperate from it. |
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I think the carnival float idea is a good one Rindy, maybe it should be suggested to the organisers.
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I believe there is no need for separatation in our community. Life's happily moved on, and gays and lesbians will probably be well represented on other floats in the main carnival...probably even on the Stanley one, as well as other groups.:D |
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I doubt whether he'll want a float in the carnival - it doesn't go past Cross St does it?
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Sounds spectacular...as a flop! Leave him to it. |
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Well if he wants to organise one all by himself good luck to him - but a one man carnival will be a pretty boring affair.
Like Garinda I too believe there is no need for separation in our community. It's a bit silly really. I mean 'gay rights' means nothing when no-one has any more or less rights be they gay or straight, similarly married couple, unmarried couple, living togther, living apart, single individual .......... etc. We're all the same, all human beings who live in Hyndburn................. I'm not sure I make sense. I know what I mean but it's hard to explain in words. |
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I understand what you mean, and agree. The whole history of gay pride marches started in the early 70's by a small group of people at the LSE. They wanted to show a positive, visible presence, at a time when there was only negative media coverage around the issue. There was also inequality in law regarding some aspects of homosexuality, that they wanted to challenge. Happily we've moved on, in no small part to the current government changing some of the more antiquated laws. Bye bye ghetto, and hello to living as part of the wider community. |
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You need to get out more, there are hundreds. If you ask 'em nicely they may let you ride in the basket.:D |
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As of 2001 the population of Hyndburn was 81,500. Given that an estimated 10% of the population are gay/lesbian/bi, that makes 8,150 in the borough.
You'll need a big bike. Better make that 8,151 because I hadn't moved back in 2001.:D |
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I was thinking on my way home from the Temple just now - maybe that's why Gayle's offer of help for the Gay Pride march was rejected - maybe he just wanted to be thought of as the only gay in the village. :D
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..but from that chain of thought you could say that the other 90% of the under nines don't know they are hetretosexual, which is rubbish. |
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like I say .. you can't count people under a certain age.. I can't remember the age I thought.. "hey I'm hetrosexual".. so the 10% is rubbish..maybe more maybe less.
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I'm not getting into an argument with you. I really don't care all that much. The first, somewhat flawed, figure from Kinsey's studies in the '50's put the figure at 10%, most studies today are more inclined to believe it's nearer 5%. Either way, one in ten, or one in twenty, it's still a fair few of the population of Hyndburn. By the way, I knew I was 'special' from the age of six.:D |
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It's still too many to fit on a bike anyway. ;)
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Apparently this man says there has been a lot of support for this idea. Which wasn't the impression he gave Gayle, when she kindly offered to help secure funding, as posted earlier.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...arching_on.php More worrying is that the rainbow flying hairdresser, who actually lives in Manchester, was this week found guilty of racially abusing an Accrington girl. http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...shopworker.php Why don't you take your silly ideas back to Manchester, and stick your rainbow flag somewhere suitable. |
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I think he's so far up his own that there isn't room for anything else!:)
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seems to me the publicity he has generated has come back to haunt him.. just goes to show best way is to keep your gob shut.. or is it? |
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sitting on the fence again? |
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Not sitting on the fence on this one. Saying out right that I think he's using his gayness for the reason people don't like him.
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This 'guy' has asked for it, if you are in business dealing with all types of customers, you do not draw attention to yourself by sticking a label on your gender unless, this is the only type of people you wish to attract to to the service you offer.
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I have seen on here blatant racism.. extreme right wing fascist extremists.. and all you say is.."i've got to sit on the fence on this one " or similar.. were's your guts? |
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I'm a bit lost as to where you're coming from Mancie. I am not sitting on the fence on this thread at all. I think I'm saying quite clearly what my view is on this one so there's no need to repeat it.
Also, if you do go back to the other thread that you're referring to I think you'll find that I also quite clearly state my views. |
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People like him, instead of cementing community relations, actually weaken them.:mad: |
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To me it sounds like lies. |
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Or he's mentioned them to the press but the press have had the good sense not to take him up on them.
I agree, people with a chip on their shoulder in this way do absolutely nothing for community relations. |
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