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jambutty 26-01-2007 16:56

Exhaust Fumes Are To Blame
 
A report today states that the medical profession recognises that vehicle exhaust fumes are the main cause of asthma. The report goes on to suggest that vehicle exhaust fumes also stunt the growth of the lungs in the young.

This damning report considers that children living within 500 yards of a busy highway are the most at risk. Can I just pat myself on the back just this once because they have confirmed what I have been saying for years and had my words rammed down my throat as motorists tried to defend their polluting ways.

Now all you sanctimonious, bigoted, selfish, intolerant, hypocritical non-smokers who campaigned so vociferously against being forced to breathe in second hand tobacco fumes, are you going to launch a similar campaign against the infernal combustion engine? If not why not?

***Mr D*** 26-01-2007 17:05

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Dont forget all the factories.

My mum suffers from Ashma bad, when the dairy was in Accrington we lived close by, I remember her having really bad attacks and needing hospital attention af ew times (that breating machine).

Once the Dairy shut down, her Ashma improved 80%.

Coinsidence?

Car manufacturers are trying to be greener, just the technology is expensive at the moment.

chav1 26-01-2007 17:08

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 375137)
Car manufacturers are trying to be greener, just the technology is expensive at the moment.

theres a lot of money to be made from saving the enviroment ;)

jambutty 26-01-2007 19:26

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 375137)
Dont forget all the factories.

My mum suffers from Ashma bad, when the dairy was in Accrington we lived close by, I remember her having really bad attacks and needing hospital attention af ew times (that breating machine).

Once the Dairy shut down, her Ashma improved 80%.

Coinsidence?

Car manufacturers are trying to be greener, just the technology is expensive at the moment.

Yes the factories. Well there aren’t nearly as many as there used to be and there is legislation in place to force them to clean up their emissions.

A dairy equals lots of motor transport coming and going and it is more likely to be the lack of those when the dairy closed down that helped your mum’s asthma rather than the dairy itself.

Wot? No non-smokers ready to start an anti car campaign? Didn’t think that there would be any.

Come on you non-smokers you were quick to condemn the smoker so admit that cars are killing my grand, great grandchildren and everybody else’s too.

Sorry! I forgot! The car is seen as essential so it doesn’t matter if it poisons hundreds of thousands.

Ianto.W. 26-01-2007 19:59

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Do you know jambutty you have got me thinking, 15 years ago the Council redirected mainstream traffic from the town centre past our house, and put a roundabout outside my front window, since then I have had three operations for cancer, the last one for lung cancer and I do not smoke! This traffic is non stop 24 hours a day . If there is a Solicitor out there who wants to take my case up get in touch.

jambutty 26-01-2007 20:31

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Sorry to read about your illnesses but it certainly points to traffic as the culprit. Although I figure you would have a hard time proving it.

In fact I doubt if any boffin would dare to prove it and even if someone did you can bet your sweet life that the results would get ‘lost’. Imagine the litigation!

***Mr D*** 26-01-2007 20:36

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 375223)
A dairy equals lots of motor transport coming and going and it is more likely to be the lack of those when the dairy closed down that helped your mum’s asthma rather than the dairy itself.

That sounds like a plausable theory, maybe in addition to whatever the factory was leaking (if it was), supprizingly the wind directon also played its part.

jambutty 26-01-2007 21:21

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I don’t think that you can class a dairy as a factory. After all it is just a place where milk is delivered in bulk, bottled and sent out for home delivery and shops. Maybe they had some sort of a boiler for heating the water to sterilise the bottles before use.

There is no doubt that wind direction would play a part but vehicle exhaust fumes tend to keep low to the ground especially in cold weather.

WillowTheWhisp 26-01-2007 23:51

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Is it only private cars you object to because buses can do a fair old bit of polluting or do we condemn everyone to stay at home or only travel as far as they can walk?

That would mean I can get into town but not back home again.
:rolleyes:

cashman 27-01-2007 00:11

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no but they could switch to Eco-Fuel surely if the goverment got off the pot.

WillowTheWhisp 27-01-2007 00:31

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This eco-fuel. How eco is it? I know it's supposedly non-polluting but I presume it does have some emmisions?

Ianto.W. 27-01-2007 00:37

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 375510)
no but they could switch to Eco-Fuel surely if the goverment got off the pot.

Why don't we use Sunflower oil like they do in France, or rapeseed oil there are plenty of alternatives to highly polluting Fossil Fuels. That mighn't send the Arabs back into their 'roaming' mode, and we mighn't get our racehorses back, when they have no oil brass to squander.:cool:

WillowTheWhisp 27-01-2007 00:39

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Sounds like a good idea - how do we go about converting? Can we get a grant? ;)

Ianto.W. 27-01-2007 01:04

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 375534)
Sounds like a good idea - how do we go about converting? Can we get a grant? ;)

Ask Gayle willow she's the head grant getter.

steeljack 27-01-2007 01:16

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 375510)
no but they could switch to Eco-Fuel surely if the goverment got off the pot.

this eco-fuel is a two edged sword , whats happening here is that large areas which previously has been used for grains and wheat is now being used for eco-fuel crops , this has resulted in a big rise in flour and beef futures prices at the various markets so expect an increase in your grocery bills . :confused:


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