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LancYorkYankee 01-02-2007 18:23

Weapon of choice?
 
Just saw on the news that a local fellow (~65 years old) had a 16 year old kid break through his basement door. The home owner was in the kitchen. As he had yet to wash the dishes, he grabbed a frying pan and knocked the kid bloody as he came up the basement stairs.

In that situation, wonder what you'd grab to protect yourselves? Lot's of folks, myself including, have a club or bat near their bed. Think we'd use em? Or would some just run out of the house to a neighbors?

Although we all could escape out windows, I would really hope that I would be willing to head to the area of danger and confront the intruder(s). At least to give the family a chance to get free. My protection would be a broken maul handle as my guns are safely tucked away in the cellar!

Brian

AccyJay 01-02-2007 18:27

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It's not quite the same over here. You can only use reasonable force, & even then it's usually up to the courts to decide if you had been a little heavy handed.

IMHO if somebody breaks into your home, you should be able to beat them senseless.

:D

andrewb 01-02-2007 18:28

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I don't know about weapon of choice, but in the UK the man protecting his home would end up being done for attempted murder or something equally daft.

I hope its not like that in the states!

panther 01-02-2007 18:30

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guns!!??
crikey got nowt like that over ere!!
I would probably run.....lol
honestly though I havent a clue what I would do, its always a different story when you get into that situation, but I would protect my kids anyway I can!!

katex 01-02-2007 18:37

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 378021)
guns!!??
crikey got nowt like that over ere!!
I would probably run.....lol
honestly though I havent a clue what I would do, its always a different story when you get into that situation, but I would protect my kids anyway I can!!

Me too Panther, but surprising how much strength you acquire when in this type of situation, and especially with your kids in the house.

I only have a whistle by the side of my bed given to me by the Neighbourhood watch committee, in the theory that it's sharp shrill would awaken other neighbours .... mmmm. :rolleyes:

LancYorkYankee 01-02-2007 18:46

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Gosh, would you guys really get in trouble with the law if you used a frying pan on the perpetrator? In that case, my suggestion would be to finish him off then use all those shredders you have. No body, no problem (except for a bit of a messy shredder eh?:D ).

I'm pretty sure about this, over here if anyone enters your house, you have the right to protect yourself AND your property. I actually heard from the police that if someones trying to break into your home either wait until they get in, then dispose of them or nick em outside, drag em into your house and then call the police.

The police nor the courts have much simpathy for these kind of bad guys!

Brian

cashman 01-02-2007 18:51

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i know for sure if somebody broke in our house one of us would finish up eating hospital food. i also know if it was the felon I WOULD get done. i also know me head goes at injustice an i DO NOT give a stuff.

Ianto.W. 01-02-2007 18:59

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I think that when self preservation kicks in, as must have done when the subject of this thread must have was attacked, the last thing on your mind (mine certainly) would be what punishment the courts would dish out to me for defending me and mine, as that does it not seem to worry the persons carrying out the attack on you.

WillowTheWhisp 01-02-2007 19:14

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Unfortunately Brian it's usually the victim of the break-in who ends up in court for defending themselves, and often in jail too.

Would you believe that burglars have even been known to successfully sue people when they get injured on anything a householder puts in their way as a means of burglar proofing the property? Mad isn't it?

Billcat 01-02-2007 19:14

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 378031)
Gosh, would you guys really get in trouble with the law if you used a frying pan on the perpetrator? In that case, my suggestion would be to finish him off then use all those shredders you have. No body, no problem (except for a bit of a messy shredder eh?:D ).

Perhaps we could refer this one to the Holland's Pies thread?:D

panther 01-02-2007 19:16

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Originally Posted by Billcat (Post 378044)
Perhaps we could refer this one to the Holland's Pies thread?:D

emmm wonder what you mean:rolleyes:

bullseyebarb 01-02-2007 19:18

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 378016)
My protection would be a broken maul handle as my guns are safely tucked away in the cellar!

Brian

As a good parent, I can understand your desire to keep the guns away from the children until you feel they are ready to be trained appropriately. My preference is a Smith & Wesson .38. My better half carries his dad's service semi - a Colt .45. Never had to face an intruder, (and hope we never do). However, are prepared should that time ever come.

Here in Georgia, you have a right to protect yourself, family and property. And that's how it should be.

lindsay ormerod 01-02-2007 19:18

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I have both a hefty cricket bat and a baseball bat convienently placed to welcome the most un -welcome intruders and NOTHING would stop me protecting my little girl;be it the British law system or some knife wielding hoodie! It's a different matter at work (obviously when I was still employed) ,you are not paid enough to put your life on the line whilst lining some fat cat's pockets.:hititbana :hititbana :hititbana

Mancie 01-02-2007 19:18

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I confronted a burgler about 2 years ago.. it was around 2am and I was on the PC in the front room...I heard something in my kitchen and went to look and found a man (maybe teenage) half way through the window! he was was coming in head first (halfway in or halfway out).. I suppose I felt a mixture of fear and anger.. anyway the first thing to hand was a plastic broom (very light) by my kitchen door, to swing it and hit him with it would not have done much damage so I sort of prodded him back out of my window, shouting abuse at him.
I consider myself lucky, I dread to think what could have happend if this bloke had been fully in, a kitchen is full of knives and stuff and he might have got to them before me!

tadah 01-02-2007 19:28

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I have a carbon ceramic combat knife id use. With pressure relife hole to make it easier to take out and plunge back in again much quicker.

tadah 01-02-2007 19:29

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And id just like to say that this is my 200th post lol

LancYorkYankee 01-02-2007 19:34

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:rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38:
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Originally Posted by Billcat (Post 378044)
Perhaps we could refer this one to the Holland's Pies thread?:D

:rofl38: :rofl38:

Ianto.W. 01-02-2007 19:42

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C
Quote:

Originally Posted by tadah (Post 378054)
And id just like to say that this is my 200th post lol

Congratulations tadah, time for a tyre change some 'slick's' I think:D.


katex 01-02-2007 21:22

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 378047)
As a good parent, I can understand your desire to keep the guns away from the children until you feel they are ready to be trained appropriately. My preference is a Smith & Wesson .38. My better half carries his dad's service semi - a Colt .45. Never had to face an intruder, (and hope we never do). However, are prepared should that time ever come.

Here in Georgia, you have a right to protect yourself, family and property. And that's how it should be.

Wish you would just stop bragging about your weapons and gun law in America bullseyebarb .. doesn't impress here in the U.K.

Shady McGough 01-02-2007 21:36

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Impresses the hell out of me. Lindsay with an Uzi............run for the hills!!!!!!

steeljack 01-02-2007 21:38

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a 38 , loaded with snake-shot , usually keep it in my vehicle for use in the pipe yard at work (lots of rattlesnakes that love to hide under the pipe ) and a small 22 , think its in my sock drawer ,

:D

katex 01-02-2007 21:43

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Originally Posted by Shady McGough (Post 378146)
Impresses the hell out of me. Lindsay with an Uzi............run for the hills!!!!!!

What's a Uzi Shady ? Ya' mean up the Coppice ...:D

Shady McGough 01-02-2007 21:43

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Now where the hell did I leave my small .22? Of course, it's in the most sensible place to keep a loaded weapon....the sock drawer. LOL

Shady McGough 01-02-2007 21:44

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 378154)
What's a Uzi Shady ? Ya' mean up the Coppice ...:D

It's a gun..........you really should keep off those gins Katex.

steeljack 01-02-2007 21:49

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Originally Posted by Shady McGough (Post 378155)
Now where the hell did I leave my small .22? Of course, it's in the most sensible place to keep a loaded weapon....the sock drawer. LOL

at least it's not in the nightstand with the handcuffs :eek: :eek:

katex 01-02-2007 21:50

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Originally Posted by Shady McGough (Post 378157)
It's a gun..........you really should keep off those gins Katex.

Only drink gin at lunch Shady ... well, how was I to know .. what type of gun anyway cleverclogs ... :p

cashman 01-02-2007 21:51

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slight wander, shotguns in england used to have to be licensed,also if you have a criminal record you will not get one, hope that is still the case,whereas it seems to me in the USA they are not as strict. thats me first SCUD for the evening.:D

steeljack 01-02-2007 21:58

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 378164)
slight wander, shotguns in england used to have to be licensed,also if you have a criminal record you will not get one, hope that is still the case,whereas it seems to me in the USA they are not as strict. thats me first SCUD for the evening.:D

Permits required in California , police background check and 14 day waiting period , (just in case your depressed or had a row with the wife )
ammo no problem , as much as you want when you want , usually best to wait till what you use goes on sale , Walmart is the cheapest .;)

cashman 01-02-2007 22:02

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Can you Get Ammo at walmart? i got some capsules there for soaking me teeth,better than owt over here.;)

garinda 01-02-2007 22:12

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If anybody dared to break into my house, I'd threaten them with a..... make over, and watch them flee.:D

LancYorkYankee 02-02-2007 03:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tadah (Post 378054)
And id just like to say that this is my 200th post lol

Geez Tadah, you could of put a bit more thought into such a milestone post eh?

Shady, to refer to an Uzi as "a gun" is like calling the Atlantic Ocean a pond . . . oh wait. . . okay, like calling the Amazon River a bit of a stream. The Uzi is an automatic rifle that is unfortunately a weapon of choice for many of the larger, inner city gangs (mostly drug dealers).

You can't just walk in a store and buy one off the rack but must have special permits. Unless of course you're a convicted felon, then you get em from your boys in the hood.

Brian

LancYorkYankee 02-02-2007 03:15

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I'm not trying to be a smart butt or anything (especially to Katex).

However, what kind of weapon(s) can you purchase or own over there? As long as an American hasn't been convicted of a felony (seriously not trying to brag), we can purchase pistols, revolvers, rifles, shotguns (but NOT saw-off ones:rolleyes:), crossbows, compound bows, swords, all kinds of knives, plus gunpowder I think, etc.

Are most all these things either banned or severely restricted in England? Has it always been that way? Can hunters have more leeway than just a regular citizen?

Thanks,

Brian

steeljack 02-02-2007 03:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 378244)
Geez Tadah, you could of put a bit more thought into such a milestone post eh?

Shady, to refer to an Uzi as "a gun" is like calling the Atlantic Ocean a pond . . . oh wait. . . okay, like calling the Amazon River a bit of a stream. The Uzi is an automatic rifle that is unfortunately a weapon of choice for many of the larger, inner city gangs (mostly drug dealers).

You can't just walk in a store and buy one off the rack but must have special permits. Unless of course you're a convicted felon, then you get em from your boys in the hood.

Brian

yep , but why the heck are they available off the shelf , the single fire version (easily adapted to rapid fire) in local gun stores, there is no reasonable excuse for anyone to own one , they are not a sports weapon /hunting weapon/ personal safety weapon .
These things are being imported (into the US) and where is the control , suggest you check out the bill Sen Diane Fienstein introduced to ban these things and ask your local elected officals to provide support .

Guns dont kill people , people do

LancYorkYankee 02-02-2007 03:44

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I agree that there is no reason that anybody needs one of these weapons Steeljack. However, even if they were totally banned, you think the criminals wouldn't be able to get them? It's not the psycho white supremists, typically, using these weapons in an illegal manner.

steeljack 02-02-2007 03:49

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 378250)
I agree that there is no reason that anybody needs one of these weapons Steeljack. However, even if they were totally banned, you think the criminals wouldn't be able to get them? It's not the psycho white supremists, typically, using these weapons in an illegal manner.

agree its not the white supremicists using these things but who is doing the conversions ?, one thing is for sure its not the dumb-ass gang bangers , 'heck' they cant even tie their shoe-laces and fix their belts to hold their pants up ,
:D :D

WillowTheWhisp 02-02-2007 07:22

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 378245)

However, what kind of weapon(s) can you purchase or own over there?


:rofl38:Can I answer that one when I've picked myself up of the floor?

You can even get in trouble here for owning a plastic toy that looks like a gun!

moonshiner 02-02-2007 11:28

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My weapon of choice would be one of my samuria swords,(all razor sharp)
I take the view that any one breaking into my home, will never leave
the more harm you inflicton the scroats, the less they or there mates will want next time:mad:

Ianto.W. 02-02-2007 11:53

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 378174)
Can you Get Ammo at walmart? i got some capsules there for soaking me teeth,better than owt over here.;)

They wern't capsules for soaking your teeth in cashy they were for cleaning a Uzi out.:rolleyes:

***Mr D*** 02-02-2007 12:05

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If someone vroke into my house I would have to rescue them.

Beauty of having 2 dogs.

But without the dogs, I would do anything to keep my family safe (whatever it took), also try to get some DNA out of him, for the police after.;)


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