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Re: Aged 12 And Looking After the Family
I think Mancie is just disagreeing for aguments sake, which isn't a bad thing, accyweb would end up like burnleyweb if we all agreed on every single subject (oopps I said that out loud didn't I :o ) ......... but if you really do believe, hand on heart Mancie, that this couple that already have six kids should carry on at the rate they are breeding I'd love to hear your reasons why?
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I don't mind him disagreeing and having a different point of view, that's fair enough. Gayle was putting forward a possible alternative viewpoint and that's a valid thing to do even if I disagree with it I respect the right of someone to have a different opinion.
What I am objecting to here is the fact that Mancie is claiming that I have said things which I have not said and would not say. If he would bother to read my post again he would see that what I said referred to disabled and able bodied people alike. It's their treatment of the children I object to, not their physical capabilities. |
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Trouble with anything these days & pinicle of any debate is that rights asways infringe on other rights - right or wrong they'd be & cause of much trouble these days :rolleyes:
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Thanks for settling the argument Willow.. the problem I have with this thread is people saying they "should not be allowed to have any more children".. if you say the children should be taken away at birth then fair enough.. but when the statement is "not allowed" I was wondering how you can restrict two human beings from reproducing... the only way I can think would be by force..forced separation of these two..or by a forced operation of some kind... sounds nasty dosent it?... I have not misquoted anyone..."not allowed" means stopped from doing something
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Oh yeah, I can see were your coming from mel, this couple have the 'right' to have as many children as they like but surely the kids have the right to enjoy their childhood. It really is such a shame for them, childhood is short enough as it is. |
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Yes the kids right should prioritise over these incubators!! |
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By all means disagree with anything I have actually said but do not accuse me of saying something I haven't in order to argue with me and belittle my point of view. |
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Willow.. you said they "should not be allowed to produce more"... its what you said.. no misquote..again I will ask you how you would impose this?... what do you mean by saying "not allowed" to produce more?.. to have the born children taken away at birth is a valid option but you did say "not allowed to produce more".. you still dodge the question.. how would you stop these people producing more kids?????
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You are now carefully changing the subject. I shall not respond to this as you have not acknowledged that you accused me of saying two things which I have not said.
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I'm not that clever Willow.. I'm not good at manipulation... people have posted stuff on this thread that clearly says this couple should not be allowed to reproduce.. in some ways I agree.. but when asked how this should be enforced they bottle out.. "not me" .. wern't me that said it... you said it! (its in the bold letters)...if I've taken your words the wrong way I understand...but please don't say I misqouted you.
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Perhaps then you are not clever enough to read and understand what I actually said.
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Yeah.. perhaps
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If they had, had 1 child and weren't able to provide basic care themselves then I would have the opinion that they had the right to try being parents ...... but to go on and have more .... |
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OK.. yet again I will make the point that people have not only said this couple should not be allowed to keep children.. which is a valid opinion.. but posters have said they should not be allowed to produce more children.. now.. can we have an answer to the question...... how would you stop this couple from reproducing more children?... stop avoiding the question and give an answer!
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You can't stop them! If she went throught 9 months of pregnancy and then childbirth just to have the baby taken from her I'm sure she'd soon get fed up!
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