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LancYorkYankee 02-03-2007 19:55
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 391525)
Never heard the story about an older brother, which would throw a whole new light on Christian theology!

It is reported that Jesus apparently had a brother called James, but he was younger than Jesus.
According to the Scriptures, Jesus had younger brothers and sisters. James became a leader in the newly forming Christian Church and wrote the Book of James. Aslo according to the Scriptures, he had no older brother and did not have any children.

This is not the same James who was the first Apostle to be martyred.

Brian

Ianto.W. 03-03-2007 13:35
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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 391633)
According to the Scriptures, Jesus had younger brothers and sisters. James became a leader in the newly forming Christian Church and wrote the Book of James. Aslo according to the Scriptures, he had no older brother and did not have any children.

This is not the same James who was the first Apostle to be martyred.

Brian
Would one of these be St James The Less, Brian? and no it's not a wind up, I always wondered why one could be of lesser importance than the other, my other tinpot theory I had about him, is was he a small man? I know it sounds stupid but as a child this is the way it appeared to me.:confused:

WillowTheWhisp 03-03-2007 14:26
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I read somewhere that some people think so - with Mary Magdalene - and that there is a direct blood line somewhere. That could be the da vinci code plot though?
Yes it is the da Vinci Code plot but Dan Brown didn't dream it up.

This 'older brother' could they perhaps be mistaking John the Baptist who was actually a cousin?

As Brian said he does have siblings mentioned in the Bible but some denominations won't accept that, they claim it's a mistranslation - personally I do believe that they were his actual brothers and sisters.

garinda 03-03-2007 14:46
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 391968)

This 'older brother' could they perhaps be mistaking John the Baptist who was actually a cousin?
I always thought Jesus and John the Baptist were cousins. Recently I read that in fact Mary, Jesus's Mother, and Elizabeth, John the Baptist's Mother, were cousins. Which would make Jesus and John only second cousins(?):confused:

LancYorkYankee 03-03-2007 23:40
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Would one of these be St James The Less, Brian? and no it's not a wind up, I always wondered why one could be of lesser importance than the other, my other tinpot theory I had about him, is was he a small man? I know it sounds stupid but as a child this is the way it appeared to me.:confused:
James the first Martyr was the Apostle John's brother. They were also known as the Sons of Zebedee and Sons of Thunder.

I don't believe "the lesser" would have meant of less importance. Possibly the Dad was James the mostest. It had be hard without last names. These identifyers were probably just trying to specific.

The Roman Catholic church believes, based on there own traditions, that Mary, the mother of Jesus, remained a perpetual virgin.

Brian

WillowTheWhisp 04-03-2007 00:08
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 391991)
I always thought Jesus and John the Baptist were cousins. Recently I read that in fact Mary, Jesus's Mother, and Elizabeth, John the Baptist's Mother, were cousins. Which would make Jesus and John only second cousins(?):confused:
Yes but it's still a sort of cousin. Maybe they thought of family like they do in Ireland where everyone, even the fifth cousin four times removed, is referred to as a cousin. :p

Ianto.W. 04-03-2007 00:28
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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 392376)
James the first Martyr was the Apostle John's brother. They were also known as the Sons of Zebedee and Sons of Thunder.

I don't believe "the lesser" would have meant of less importance. Possibly the Dad was James the mostest. It had be hard without last names. These identifyers were probably just trying to specific.

The Roman Catholic church believes, based on there own traditions, that Mary, the mother of Jesus, remained a perpetual virgin.

Brian
It must stem from the Jewish religion Brian as they do not have official 'surnames' they are usually related to their profession or the place of birth and son of, as in Goldsmith, Silver or Jewel, Rosenberg and Rosenthal.

WillowTheWhisp 04-03-2007 00:43
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Hence - Jesus bar Joseph, or Jesus of Nazareth.

cashman 04-03-2007 11:23
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just thought of an easy way to solve this problem. heard on 12-00 news radio lancs,that a 67 yr old man from Padiham, has changed his name by deed poll,to Jesus Christ. so the answer is pop over Padiham and ask him.:D

katex 04-03-2007 13:04
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just thought of an easy way to solve this problem. heard on 12-00 news radio lancs,that a 67 yr old man from Padiham, has changed his name by deed poll,to Jesus Christ. so the answer is pop over Padiham and ask him.:D
Oh dear :rofl38: Still, everyone's choice I suppose.

Perhaps, he thinks he is the second coming, but we wouldn't believe in him anyway, would we ?

The theorists on the eldest brother have excused this by stating that they could have been stepbrothers, as stories go that Joseph had been married before and many children. Seems he was very, very, very much older than Mary and putting Mary's age as young as 12 ?? Just what I have been googling folks.. lots of conflicting opinions.


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