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Whats going on? Man Utd supporters can't even go to watch a football game without getting your head kicked in?.. if this happened at an English game the Police involved would have been taken off duty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Y_UNM6OLA

These "police" are taking liberties with British citizens!

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If the man united so called supporters had behaved in a responsible manner, the Italian Police would not have been needed.

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Cheers Ian.. backing up the "other lot" this time I see!

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Football supporters or fans macie that support or are fans of any other club than their home town club, are not fans or suppoters in the spirit of the game. They are pureley and simply 'success followers' Man U, Liverpool, etc etc I could go on all night and maybe include the tribal factions of Celtic and Rangers. Any football fan/supporter should first and foremost support his/her home team, not a club 25 miles down the road, money going to Man-U will not benefit this area only Manchester. So the moral to this tale is support your local side and if success comes their way money will come to Accrington.:)

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Very smart uniforms though.

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Just a hint of the old Mussolini about them don’t you think.

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Well seems to me that some people on this site are quite happy to see members of the British public beaten just because they are in the right place at the wrong time..but these same members cry "outrage" when the threat of Argentina taking over the ****lands.. stick up for your fellow country men you wimps!

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was me Ianto.. forgot to sign

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And the last time you were at Stanley was?

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where as yeah there are innocent bystanders caught up in all this i do feel sorry for

however

as clearly shown in pics of the utd game adn spurs game there were aggrivators

if u want to avoid trouble what do u do? turn away. back off. go the other way.

clearly u can see utd and spurs fans having a go at the cops and what are they meant to do? simply stand there let it come?

simple fact is in the uk it doesnt happen as securioty around the grounds is so tight any wannabe fighters dont get in like they used to. unfortunatly the case in europe isnt the same but still that shouldnt make a certain thug element that was present ok to have rolling rampages at the police.

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Turn away.back off?.. if you are cowering on your hands and knees you are not showing aggression.. yet it is clear the Police are heavily beating people who are curled and the people who are trying to drag them out of the trouble... it is the police beating up the innocent who's only crime is watching a football game.

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I have to say you are wrong...I am a rangers fan and have had a season ticket for the last 20 odd years...I travel the 190 miles or whatever it is when I can to go watch them, and I also travel over europe to watch them when I get the chance - and I can tell you that I am not a 'success follower' or a glory hunter as they are known in scotland.. or am I? cos I chose to go watch a team in glasgow and not the local club 15 mins from my door ?..dont think so..I chose to go to glasgow cos I am a rangers fan and have been for over 25 years..way before any success came about..and the same will apply for the teams you mentioned in your post..you are basically saying that its wrong to follow a team thats not your local one...
what about the stanley fans who come outwith accrington to watch stanley play ?..should they stay in their local town and support their local club ?...
stanleys gate would fall in that case and not as much money would come through the turnstiles...thus then making success that bit harder ?..would you still want those fans to stay away and support their local team then...no I am presuming your answer would be...
sorry but this is the real world and people will travel to go watch whatever game they chose..I have been to see everton a few times...they wont win anything..so I cant be a success follower there can I?
I have to admit your argument/statement is slightly flawed..

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As an ex business customer of 'Eric,' I have an open invitation to go and watch Stanley anytime I like. I am in fact a Blackburn Rovers 'supporter' and yes I do pay for the privelige, although for reasons that shall stay with myself I am unable to attend matches, so I buy a season ticket for my grandson. As none of my grandchildren follow Accrington Stanley I do not contribute to them, I hope that answers your question Bazf.

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You sir are to be admired as you are a true supporter who pays their money, a fan is a success follower who pays nothing, yet seeks to wallow in the glory. Up the Ger's.:D

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Thank's Mancie, will see you right when it lets me, getting a bit livelier now this thread regards. Ian.;)

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Only just spotted your thread mate.The scenes on the terraces the other night were totally out of order.Where were the police on the Roma's side of the glass partition?And that woman who was speaking to an officer and then they just decided to baton her hubby who was just stood there with his arm around her.
Then there is the question of where was the protection for the supporters that got stabbed outside the ground?Up until recently this was one of the stadiums that was closed due to the recent domestic violence in Italian football.

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That was a while back, was a local derby, a police officer called Filippo Raciti was killed. Was a match between Catania and Palermo so you can understand why they would be worried.

I think Italian police and the Spanish to an extent are possibly 10-15 years behind us in terms of stadium security/policing, they don't even have stewards there, the soft policing option rather than riot police.

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Certainly looked like the police were in the wrong, there would've been uproar had that been British police against Italian fans.

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No!!!!!

So you are going to Blackburn yet your profile says Accrington.

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The treatment the United fans got was diabolical.
The police neanderthals resonsible should have their helments, batons & armour taken away and be thrown into Mosside!

Tottenham idiots didn't help United's case unfortunately :(
Trust bloody cockneys.

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I have no wish to cross swords with you my friend, but please read my post in depth before you respond to them.
. Now you tell me how to answer your post's.:confused:

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you said that Football supporters or fans macie that support or are fans of any other club than their home town club, are not fans or suppoters in the spirit of the game.
You are from Accrington and you support Blackburn, now when I was growing up Accrington was different to Blackburn. As an ex business customer of "Eric", maybe he would be able to explain where the boundries of the two towns are.

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Sorry to pull you up mate but mancie didn't say that it was Ianto.W:) Like I said sorry to pull you up:)

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I was replying to Ianto.

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Sorry mate you said macie which i thought you meant mancie:)

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If you read his quote he is the one who mentions mancie. I just put his quote in. :)

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Now now gentlemen.
Lets not get over excited over a trivial mistake of mine, it's a habit that accompanies old age.
Or I shall have to send for the Italian Police force.:D

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i was working today in manchester in a major hotel and it was shocking at the state the italian fans were coming back in.

one italian fan said he left the stadium at half time and was walkin back and ppl were hiding behind trees etc ready to ambush him. they took his watch, passport, wallet etc and outnumbered him 10/1 he came back all bloody and bruised after being chased for some time.

it wasnt just the roma fans that were coming back - we had one irish couple who went to see the game with their young son and he'd seen all the fighting and was in a real bad state of shock.

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My youngest son and his wife were at the match. He did say that there were about 30 or so United fans who were taunting the home side fans before the match had started. We know that this is acceptable in England but many of the countries on the continent do not share our sense of humour and do not understand our pi$$ taking. They were also taunting the police when they appeared on the scene. However, he said the police grossly over-reacted and were indiscriminately beating bystanders with their batons. Quite frankly, I would not travel to the continent to watch a game because it just isn't worth the risk. I think he was a damn fool for taking his wife, it's hard enough trying to avoid trouble when you only have yourself to think about. This is a very sad state of affairs and I know in my heart that we should not let the stupid few ruin everything for the majority, but it just isn't worth it.

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Watched the match last night.Good to see the players doing it for the fans on the pitch with 7 goals.:)
The scenes before and after outside the ground was horrible to watch but I am not condoning but was to be expected,not as a reprecusion of the treatment by the hands of Italian police ,but the stabbings outside the ground in Italy.I've got to say I think the Manchester police force dealt with it well,and did not over brandish the batons unlike the Italians.

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For anyone who has not seen what happened last night,I've found this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8s3_jCgfAQ

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The above put me in mind of the Ben Elton line about dress codes for night clubs not making any sense as on their criteria---
"Come in Hitler nice boots, **** off Jesus no sandels"