30 =27

jambutty · 02-05-2007, 13:25

Driving up Pole Lane in Darwen the other day I was confronted with an illuminated sign on the left side of the road that showed “27mph” and words to the effect of ‘thank you for keeping to the speed limit’. I can’t remember the exact words because I was concentrating on not hitting a parked car and avoiding doing the same to cars come towards me.

I was doing exactly 30 mph at the time as was shown on my speedo. So if proof was ever needed that traffic speed equipment is set to give a small allowance (+10%) on the actual speed then this has to be it.

Must have a trip down the road one day to see it targets traffic coming down the road as well.

I wonder what would happen if I drove faster than about 33 mph? I wonder what the wording would be? Maybe a copper would leap out from behind a car brandishing a radar gun?

WillowTheWhisp · 02-05-2007, 13:41

Could the sign have been right and your speedo wrong? Tempted to get Busman to drive me over there to see what it says to us.

entwisi · 02-05-2007, 13:46

Speedos are notorious for being inaccurate always overstating your speed. The most accurate method of checking is by using a GPS system as these have <1% error

They are also not linear in their inaccuracy, e.g. in my volvo teh following happens

Actual speed(GPS) vs Speedo
30 32
40 44
50 53
60 62
70 77
80 87
Cough Cough plus some

jambutty · 02-05-2007, 13:56

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Could the sign have been right and your speedo wrong? Tempted to get Busman to drive me over there to see what it says to us.

Of course it could but not very likely on a car just one year old with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

However if my speedo is wrong then I now know by how much – er more or less.

WillowTheWhisp · 02-05-2007, 14:02

It's good to know that the speedo overcompensates which means you are less likely to fall foul of the law.

entwisi · 02-05-2007, 14:21

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Originally Posted by jambutty

Of course it could but not very likely on a car just one year old with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

As I mentioned, they are inaccurate and teh manufacturers make sure ther are optimistic so they don't get sued by irate motorists caught speeding when their speedo said they weren't

mani · 02-05-2007, 16:29

yeah i've flown past a few speed cameras at certain speeds adn got nothing thru

mind u at times i've been flashed at and got nothing thru

lettie · 02-05-2007, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambutty

Of course it could but not very likely on a car just one year old with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

A traffic policeman friend of mine once told me that speedos are wrong on all cars and are usually 2-3mph above the speed you are actually doing. As Entwisi said, this is probably a car manufacturer's way of covering themselves.

flashy · 02-05-2007, 18:13

richard lives in darwen, we where driving through Bolton the other day and they have loads of these new speed thingies

Eric · 02-05-2007, 18:18

The coppers over here will usually give you 10 to 15k/h over the limit ... even more if they are munching on a triple chocolate donut. We have the "speed thingies" too. Good for checking how accurate your speedometer is and that's about all.

Neil · 02-05-2007, 19:08

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Originally Posted by jambutty

not very likely on a car just one year old with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

Your speedo will definitely be out. They all are.
The accuracy of you speedo also depends on the amount of wear on your tyres. The more worn they are the faster your car will think it is going.

davo69 · 02-05-2007, 19:45

neil thats crap

entwisi · 02-05-2007, 20:25

its not to be fair, not massively but it does have an effect

<geek mode on>

take a car with 15" wheels and 205/65 tyres, teh overall diameter of a new tyre is

15*25.4 = 381mm

add teh 'height of the tyre (205/100*65) =133.25

=514.25mm

Circumferance of a 'new tyre therfore is Pi(d) =1615.564021805mm

now a tyre has 8mm of tread when new, 1.6mm when worn so a diff of 6.4mm this is doubled as it affects both 'sides' so it become (514.25-12.8)Pi = 1575.351635847

so a difference of 30mm for each and every revolution. or in percentage format

1575.351635847/1615.564021805 *100 = 97.51 % so a difference of 2.49%

<geek mode off>

Neil · 04-05-2007, 13:28

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Originally Posted by davo69

neil thats crap

I would explain why but Ian did it for me, thanks mate. You can of course explain why my statement was wrong if you like.
Tyre pressure can also effect you speedo as can vehicle loading. I did not say it would effect it a lot but 2.5% is quite a bit.
It would be worth checking you car has the correct tyres on it. I bought a car a few years ago that had the wrong profile tyre on that made quite a big difference to the speed displayed.

mallard · 09-05-2007, 21:25

the police want to put the time to something else in stead of booking motorist