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spinner 19-04-2007 22:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 412775)

If I was feeling uncharitable I would now be asking if you were perhaps related to him, because your posts are making less and less sense to me.

here we go perhaps you could educate me as your posts are always 'correcting' peoples ideas, grammer, the endless. oh perhaps i could also learn aboutthe concept of charm which you seem to have been swathed in whilst living in london. yes ill show off about attending garindas finishing school. what will happen when im 'improved' - youll be bored to death and run off back to london.
as for not making sense it seems you wouldnt want it to make sense. your so full off your own sense of importance you couldnt possibly make sense of anything

garinda 19-04-2007 23:11

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412876)
here we go perhaps you could educate me as your posts are always 'correcting' peoples ideas, grammer, the endless. oh perhaps i could also learn aboutthe concept of charm which you seem to have been swathed in whilst living in london. yes ill show off about attending garindas finishing school. what will happen when im 'improved' - youll be bored to death and run off back to london.
as for not making sense it seems you wouldnt want it to make sense. your so full off your own sense of importance you couldnt possibly make sense of anything

Besides remarking on your own grasp of English in this thread, which is sometime verging on text speak, which is against forum rules in case you didn't know, show me where I have ever corrected any other member's grammar or spelling, and quote it for all to see, and I will gladly write you a cheque for a hundred pounds right now and post it to you.

Infact I have on more than one occasion encouraged people to post on Accy Web, regardless of their spelling, grammar etc. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, you and myself included.

If instead of getting all giddy and hurt, if you read this thread again you'll see I've agreed with you about Cllr. Siddique's lack of English as being outrageous, and the fact that he might be the next Mayor of Hyndburn as ludicrous.

As for anything else you seem to have on him, I'm still waiting for evidence, not he said, she said, or I was told, etc.

shillelagh 19-04-2007 23:26

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Its easy - dont vote for him at the next election. If he wants to be mayor so much then he must learn english and speak it as his first language not his second. I know many asian people who speak english as their first language. Even one who lives in India uses english as his first language.

spinner 19-04-2007 23:27

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[quote=garinda;412893], show me where I have ever corrected any other member's grammar or spelling, and quote it for all to see, and I will gladly write you a cheque for a hundred pounds right now and post it to you.

liar liar your bums on fire
why should i sift through threads to prove it, im not wanting or going to get your money. i dont believe in your ego only you do

and as for the being giddy and hurt the above pointis truly apt. im not going to even bother responding to yor posts. u just want an argument and want to spoil the thread for your own ego. thats my impression im sorry if you feel giddy and hurt. now if you dont mind im going bak to the thread im not in theschool english class anymore

spinner 19-04-2007 23:30

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seriously getting back to the thread now i think the bourough will get a unique image if kazi siddiq is going to be elected as mayor. perhaps banana republic oops banana town will be appropriate

garinda 19-04-2007 23:33

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[quote=spinner;412902]
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 412893)
, show me where I have ever corrected any other member's grammar or spelling, and quote it for all to see, and I will gladly write you a cheque for a hundred pounds right now and post it to you.

liar liar your bums on fire
why should i sift through threads to prove it, im not wanting or going to get your money. i dont believe in your ego only you do

and as for the being giddy and hurt the above pointis truly apt. im not going to even bother responding to yor posts. u just want an argument and want to spoil the thread for your own ego. thats my impression im sorry if you feel giddy and hurt. now if you dont mind im going bak to the thread im not in theschool english class anymore

You can't quote it because nowhere on this forum have I ever pointed out any other member's spelling mistakes, or grammatical errors.

You were wrong...again.

Do not pass Go.

Do not collect cheque for two, oopsie, one hundred pounds.

Still waiting for you to post anything of interest about Cllr. Siddique though, text speak or not.

spinner 19-04-2007 23:47

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[quote=garinda;412906]
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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412902)

You can't quote it because nowhere on this forum have I ever pointed out any other member's spelling mistakes, or grammatical errors.

You were wrong...again.

Do not pass Go.

Do not collect cheque for two, oopsie, one hundred pounds.

Still waiting for you to post anything of interest about Cllr. Siddique though, text speak or not.

ok i said i wont bother replying but you really seem concerned about correcting people, remarking on how poorly educated people are quite frankly a bit snobbish . thats why your so wound up because ive pointed out the truth and youll do everthing you can to discredit me . im sure others hav noticed too. regarding looking for the thread i know you commented on my lack of literacy skills in an almost contemptuos manner. i think the word semi literate was used. but you encourage people to express themselves how they can dont you?
i find your attitude haughty at best and snobbish at worst.
as for siddik never you mind write a thread dedicated to yourself

garinda 19-04-2007 23:52

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[quote=spinner;412908]
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 412906)

ok i said i wont bother replying but you really seem concerned about correcting people, remarking on how poorly educated people are


Again where, for goodness sake?

Quote me.

Or again have you no evidence for your claims?

Here we go, another of your paranoid conspiracy trips.

As for what other people think of me, I don't particularly care. Though I've just seen someone has given me karma for the post where I asked if you and Siddique were related.:D

Less 19-04-2007 23:53

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[quote=spinner;412908]
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 412906)

ok i said i wont bother replying but you really seem concerned about correcting people, remarking on how poorly educated people are quite frankly a bit snobbish . thats why your so wound up because ive pointed out the truth and youll do everthing you can to discredit me . im sure others hav noticed too. regarding looking for the thread i know you commented on my lack of literacy skills in an almost contemptuos manner. i think the word semi literate was used. but you encourage people to express themselves how they can dont you?
i find your attitude haughty at best and snobbish at worst.
as for siddik never you mind write a thread dedicated to yourself


spinner do yourself a favour, stop attempting to have a battle of wits when it is so obvious you haven't got any ammunition.

You are worse than gondola, try not to post unless you have something worthwhile to say, you are only showing yourself up.
:)

garinda 19-04-2007 23:55

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 412910)
You are worse than gondola

They have never been on at the same time...ever!;)

Perhaps Gondola is Spinner with a spell checker.:D

spinner 20-04-2007 00:01

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[quote=garinda;412909]
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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412908)


Again where, for goodness sake?

Quote me.

Or again have you no evidence for your claims?

Here we go, another of your paranoid conspiracy trips.

As for what other people think of me, I don't particularly care. Though I've just seen someone has given me karma for the post where I asked if you and Siddique were related.:D

oh my god you conveniently missed out the point i made about 'correcting' peoples ideas didnt you. yes because you know you are opinionated. why should i shift through the threads when i cant recall the name(s) of the person(s) you belittled because you didnt think their literacy was up to scratch. but you encourage people to express themselves as they please. incedently i find that a patronising comment. however i know you called me semi lierate and ill find it and post it . by your own admittance you made a sneering comment about my literacy by linking me to siddiq.so really i shouldnt even hav to find the earlier thread oh was it Less the britcliff lover who gave you karma

spinner 20-04-2007 00:03

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[quote=garinda;412909]
Quote:

Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412908)


Again where, for goodness sake?

Quote me.

Or again have you no evidence for your claims?

Here we go, another of your paranoid conspiracy trips.

As for what other people think of me, I don't particularly care. Though I've just seen someone has given me karma for the post where I asked if you and Siddique were related.:D

oh my god you conveniently missed out the point i made about 'correcting' peoples ideas didnt you. yes because you know you are opinionated. why should i shift through the threads when i cant recall the name(s) of the person(s) you belittled because you didnt think their literacy was not up to scratch. but you encourage people to express themselves as they please. incidently i find thatto be a patronising comment. however i know you called me semi lierate and ill find it and post it . by your own admittance you made a sneering comment about my literacy by linking me to siddiq.so really i shouldnt even hav to find the earlier thread . oh was it Less the britcliff lover who gave you karma

spinner 20-04-2007 00:05

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dear Less oh actually i forgot you are peter britcliff or his lover

Less 20-04-2007 00:10

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412914)
dear Less oh actually i forgot you are peter britcliff or his lover

Cor' blimey guv' you got me bang to rights, I'll come clean and admit it I am Peter Britcliffe and yes, I'm also my own long term lover.

Remember Folks,
You heard it first on
Accyweb!
:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

garinda 20-04-2007 00:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 412915)
Cor' blimey guv' you got me bang to rights, I'll come clean and admit it I am Peter Britcliffe and yes, I'm also my own long term lover.

Remember Folks,
You heard it first on
Accyweb!
:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:


What a cracker!

Can I be the 'ring bearer' at your civil partnership?:D

spinner 20-04-2007 00:17

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 412911)
They have never been on at the same time...ever!;)

Perhaps Gondola is Spinner with a spell checker.:D


wow another reference to spelling. ive got a new job idea for you. siddiks kids are like me poorley educated, but thick as 2 planks (failed their gcse maths umpteen times, failed gcses etc yet they hav become teachers. how will those school kids grammer , spelling be corrected . oh garinda you can do it you can teach those poor kids .

Less 20-04-2007 00:19

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 412916)
What a cracker!

Can I be the 'ring bearer' at your civil partnership?:D

Sorry Rindy that job will be performed by my best mate, the new Mayor of Hyndburn.:rolleyes:

Gayle would it be possible to get an interpretor to the do paid for by a lottery grant?
:o

garinda 20-04-2007 00:20

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412918)
wow another reference to spelling. ive got a new job idea for you. siddiks kids are like me poorley educated, but thick as 2 planks (failed their gcse maths umpteen times, failed gcses etc yet they hav become teachers. how will those school kids grammer , spelling be corrected . oh garinda you can do it you can teach those poor kids .


Before I become a teaching missionary, I fear I'll have to start with you, dear child.

It's actually grammar, with an 'a', not an 'e'.

Please copy out one hundred times.:)

spinner 20-04-2007 00:23

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both of you perhaps are already married may be youll invite siddiq for a threesome seen as garinda was stiking up for siddiq. less seriosly what you hav done is twisted the thread to suit your own purpose. you just dont want peter britcliffe criticised for his chioce of community ciohesion officer. and as for garinda hes perfect to help you to do this as he wants to flaunt his ego

spinner 20-04-2007 00:25

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 412920)
Before I become a teaching missionary, I fear I'll have to start with you, dear child.

It's actually grammar, with an 'a', not an 'e'.

Please copy out one hundred times.:)

i dont take too much notice of spelling mrs garinda oh actually you corrected me on a spelling mistake some time ago. i had to get therapy going to pakistan

garinda 20-04-2007 00:27

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412922)
i dont take too much notice of spelling mrs garinda oh actually you corrected me on a spelling mistake some time ago. i had to get therapy going to pakistan

That's Ms. Garinda to you, not Mrs, you young whipper snapper.

spinner 20-04-2007 00:29

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 412919)
Sorry Rindy that job will be performed by my best mate, the new Mayor of Hyndburn.:rolleyes:

Gayle would it be possible to get an interpretor to the do paid for by a lottery grant?
:o


peter britts will be there to ensure it all runs smoothly you wont be needing an interpretor.

spinner 20-04-2007 00:31

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 412923)
That's Ms. Garinda to you, not Mrs, you young whipper snapper.


proof proof proof you just wanted to dominate the thread . im being serios now has it not occured to you that this thread might hav been important to people who want to discuss serios issues.

garinda 20-04-2007 00:32

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412925)
serios issues.

I'm still waiting for you to make one.

spinner 20-04-2007 00:36

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oh get lost i wouldnt tell you anything. like i said ive worked you out to a tee. what would you be able to do ? nothing just treat my comments with derision thats all . dont think it bothers me

garinda 20-04-2007 00:38

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http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thu...bies_dummy.jpg:D

spinner 20-04-2007 00:42

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it saddens me your at your wits end , Less has left you and you come up with a pathetic photo to make your point. wow to think that youve made an effort in doing so . now if you dont mind for tommorow you can stop interuppting our thread wit silly images. i havent got time to scroll down

Less 20-04-2007 06:45

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412931)
Less has left you


Excuse me, I didn't leave anyone, Ms. Rindy and I have never been an item, that you should make such a callow and unfounded statement is beyond the pale, you can expect an immediate letter from my legal representative by return of post!

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Less http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...s/viewpost.gif
Sorry Rindy that job will be performed by my best mate, the new Mayor of Hyndburn.:rolleyes:

Gayle would it be possible to get an interpretor to the do paid for by a lottery grant?
:o



spinner=peter britts will be there to ensure it all runs smoothly you wont be needing an interpretor.
Will you make your mind up? Either I am Peter Britcliffe, Peter Britcliffes lover, or Ms. Rindys ex, now I'm getting confused could you please sort this out, let me know in your next post who you want me to be. that way we can have all legal documents typed up and ready to be served on you before the weekend!
:lol::do-one:

claytonender 20-04-2007 07:15

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I think Spinner has some information about Siddique Kazi which needs to be in the public domain. I think it is only fair that she should be allowed to post in the thread without being criticised.

I know that both Garinda and Less enjoy 'goading' people in a friendly manner, but it is very easy to upset someone, when they don't understand know you.

Can we please now get back to the thread.

garinda 20-04-2007 07:32

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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 412948)
I think Spinner has some information about Siddique Kazi which needs to be in the public domain. I think it is only fair that she should be allowed to post in the thread without being criticised.

I know that both Garinda and Less enjoy 'goading' people in a friendly manner, but it is very easy to upset someone, when they don't understand know you.

Can we please now get back to the thread.

A little like Gondola did to some lucky people, I've been privy to the information Spinner has about Cllr. Siddique. When Spinner pm'd me a couple of months ago, she said she was too frightened to name Siddique, now she's over that, but she's too afraid to say what she thinks she has on him.

Well I have seen her 'evidence', and all of it is is hearsay, and not one bit of evidence that could be investigated further.

Stop feeling sorry for her. She should either say what she thinks she knows, or shut up.

This is turning into another Gondola thread were someone claims evidence of something, but isn't prepared to share it with everyone, just tease them.

Less 20-04-2007 07:35

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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 412948)
I think Spinner has some information about Siddique Kazi which needs to be in the public domain. I think it is only fair that she should be allowed to post in the thread without being criticised.

I know that both Garinda and Less enjoy 'goading' people in a friendly manner, but it is very easy to upset someone, when they don't understand know you.

Can we please now get back to the thread.


What Thread? it's all he said, she said, spinner has already admitted some time ago that he/she has nothing of substance to submit, only hearsay.

:confused:

garinda 20-04-2007 07:39

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As for 'goading' Spinner, if we are going to rake things over, first we need some actual pig muck, not just be told there is some.

WillowTheWhisp 20-04-2007 07:50

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The problem with what people believe they know about Councillor Siddique is that none of it can be proved so if they came right out with an accusation it would be dismissed for lack of evidence. Therefore those things, whether they are true or not, are not going to have any bearing on Councillor Siddique becoming Mayor or otherwise.

Things which are relevant, factual and can be proven are what need to be considered. It has already been stated here that the man has very little grasp of the English language and I would consider that to be a handicap to anyone claiming to represent a Ward where about half of his constituents speak no other language but English. If he engaged an interpretor then that would possibly be overcome. However, it would seem that he has no need of an interpreter because we have been informed that he does not deal with council business when one of his constituents telephoned him and was told to contact 'the council' instead - surely that was what the constituent was doing? It would therefore appear that not only does he have little grasp of the English language, he also seems to have little grasp of the role of a councillor. Perhaps he's been taught well in that respect by Hyndborg BC.


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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412918)
wow another reference to spelling. ive got a new job idea for you. siddiks kids are like me poorley educated, but thick as 2 planks (failed their gcse maths umpteen times, failed gcses etc yet they hav become teachers. how will those school kids grammer , spelling be corrected . oh garinda you can do it you can teach those poor kids .


I find it very difficult to believe that anyone can become a teacher if they have not even managed to acquire basic GCSEs. Where do they teach? This is a matter which I would suggest needs to be addressed to the school/schools where they are employed. I did have a maths teacher when I was at the High School who openly admitted that she was hopeless at geometry (which of course made me choose the most convoluted geometry questions to tackle when we were given a free choice for homework) but she was brilliant at other things and an excellent teacher. I cannot believe that anyone 'thick as 2 planks' (even if they aren't short ones) could become employed in a teaching capacity.

How do people manage to be purely educated in this country? How do people manage to get through their school years and learn so little? Do they bunk off all the time?

Please excuse me but I had to :D at the idea of Less and PB being lovers.

Ianto.W. 20-04-2007 11:51

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Please will you give spinner an even break, I do not know her from Adam and Eve, but whoever she/he is, has a bit of spirit please do not remove it altogether. To even attemt to take on two of the websites most prolific posters is no mean feat, credit where credit is due.

Less 20-04-2007 14:10

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 412992)
Please will you give spinner an even break, I do not know her from Adam and Eve, but whoever she/he is, has a bit of spirit please do not remove it altogether. To even attemt to take on two of the websites most prolific posters is no mean feat, credit where credit is due.

Spherical objects, between a blokes legs! Spinner has taken over from gondola in giving us nothing, he/she just does not tell us anything worthwhile, if however you know something AND CAN PROVE IT, TELL US, otherwise you are also filling a server with nothing but junk!:mad:

g jones 20-04-2007 14:37

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There are some allegations and they are difficult to prove. I personally would not like to be on the butt end of vicious rumour.

(Obviously not wishing to be sued .... ) There appears to be several sources of information. Each one on their own difficult to prove unless someone comes forward. A solicitor would describe the evidence as materially substantive when considered collectively. They still can't be proven and that makes Mr. Siddique an innocent person so far as the law is concerned.

The internet is really changing the way the way the world works because of it's openess. I believe this thread should be printed and sent to Mr Siddique then he is aware of the discussion and can refute what is being said.

poppy 20-04-2007 14:44

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 413042)
The internet is really changing the way the way the world works because of it's openess. I believe this thread should be printed and sent to Mr Siddique then he is aware of the discussion and can refute what is being said.

I am glad you think like this. I have all the crap you posted in the Accrington Stanley forum just waiting to be aired come your next election campaign. Some choice quotes from you mister jones.

spinner is making all this up as he goes along. He has an axe to grind and is looking for support or at least to put doubts in your minds. for some it is working. for others it is not. mister jones ever one to use a situation to his own advantage has of course jumped on the bandwaggon.

Less 20-04-2007 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 413042)

The internet is really changing the way the way the world works because of it's openess. I believe this thread should be printed and sent to Mr Siddique then he is aware of the discussion and can refute what is being said.

That must be about the most stupid thing you have said on here, to deliberately print off and send everyones comments to someone that would probably have solicitors look through the hard copy even more than when it is on the internet? Even if he doesn't know what is being said it is like putting your own neck into the Guillotine and anyone elses as well!

Please Graham, don't suggest anything so silly again.:eek:

garinda 20-04-2007 15:34

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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 413042)
I believe this thread should be printed and sent to Mr Siddique then he is aware of the discussion and can refute what is being said.


Wouldn't it need to be translated first, so he can read it?

WillowTheWhisp 20-04-2007 16:04

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Why shouldn't Mr Siddique be given the opportunity to refute the allegations? I agree that the internet in the form of message boards like this has changed the way the world works because threads like this would at one time merely have been gossip between people down the pub or in the launderette or something, drift off into the air and been forgotten but now they remain for all to read, and I mean ALL. These pages can be seen not just by the forum members but by anyone who has access to a computer. So yes, it does change the way things are because once allegations are online they become available to many more people than would overhear a conversation in the local.

If the rumours are true then Mr Siddique is an incredibly unpleasant person and not one we would want to be seen as representative of our borough.

g jones 20-04-2007 16:05

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Originally Posted by poppy (Post 413044)
I am glad you think like this. I have all the crap you posted in the Accrington Stanley forum just waiting to be aired come your next election campaign. Some choice quotes from you mister jones.

spinner is making all this up as he goes along. He has an axe to grind and is looking for support or at least to put doubts in your minds. for some it is working. for others it is not. mister jones ever one to use a situation to his own advantage has of course jumped on the bandwaggon.

The last bit is ridiculous. People want decisions to be made fairly and transparently and those elected to be accountable. II believe English and working hard for your ward are important. I have not commented on the allegations but know the one posted here and another. Without evidence they are allegations only.

OFF TOPIC ... You have blocked PM (presumedly to hide your identity) system so I will post her briefly.

Eric asked to speak to me and has spoken with me personally face to face about that thread. Someone gave him a copy of it all. He went through it point by point and asked me to respond. We had a long discussion which went well as it went along and by the end we shook hands on friendly terms. The managing director of the Council sat in and said it went very well and ended 'with bright skies'. I'd say we got on very well (when everyone predicted we wouldn't).

Eric made a generous offer that we should keep in touch. That I could go up anytime and his was an open and welcoming door. We both agreed to try to resolve any issues without it being blown up in the public. I learnt a lot about Eric and the club and what had been happening and I think Eric (and Rob) said he picked up some of our points of view. It was very positive and Eric wanted Stanley to get all the positive news they can get and avoid negativity which gave people the wrong impression.

g jones 20-04-2007 16:10

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For clarity..

I received some other allegations from Gondola (privately) which may have been spread or been touched on the board about an individual. About grants along Blackburn Rd. I have sought to investigate all the allegations (from the last 10 years while we have used a computer database) and they are false during that period. The individual concerned was not the owner and only one grant has ever been given.

Less 20-04-2007 17:21

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 413087)
Why shouldn't Mr Siddique be given the opportunity to refute the allegations? I agree that the internet in the form of message boards like this has changed the way the world works because threads like this would at one time merely have been gossip between people down the pub or in the launderette or something, drift off into the air and been forgotten but now they remain for all to read, and I mean ALL. These pages can be seen not just by the forum members but by anyone who has access to a computer. So yes, it does change the way things are because once allegations are online they become available to many more people than would overhear a conversation in the local.

If the rumours are true then Mr Siddique is an incredibly unpleasant person and not one we would want to be seen as representative of our borough.

Willow it is still nothing but gossip, no matter what is put on here without proof will always be gossip no matter how much you want to believe it! If we are to change things then we need proof, anyone that doesn't care about anything but themselves will continue to deny, even with the evidence in their faces.

So all this speculation without proof is just speculation, (without proof), and no-one should encourage others to do something that will create a chance for the guilty to hide behind the law.:(

lancsdave 20-04-2007 17:25

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 412925)
proof proof proof you just wanted to dominate the thread .


Just another point about spelling here, when you are replying to Rindy I think you will find you spelt proof wrong, there's no r in it :D

garinda 20-04-2007 17:58

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 413118)
Just another point about spelling here, when you are replying to Rindy I think you will find you spelt proof wrong, there's no r in it :D

Better gay than grey.;)

garinda 20-04-2007 17:59

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...and being bisexual, shouldn't it just be po?

Po being half a poof?

lancsdave 20-04-2007 18:02

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 413126)
Better gay than grey.;)

:p :p Better find myself a man then

Less 20-04-2007 18:03

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 413127)
...and being bisexual, shouldn't it just be po?

Po being half a poof?

Tsk, a thread wander again! But then, what can we expect from people like you?:p

spinner 20-04-2007 19:22

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Originally Posted by poppy (Post 413044)
I am glad you think like this. I have all the crap you posted in the Accrington Stanley forum just waiting to be aired come your next election campaign. Some choice quotes from you mister jones.

spinner is making all this up as he goes along. He has an axe to grind and is looking for support or at least to put doubts in your minds. for some it is working. for others it is not. mister jones ever one to use a situation to his own advantage has of course jumped on the bandwaggon.


i dont know what sort of person you are but but I DONT print lies about people who i simply dislike. perhaps you should ask youself the same question as you are obviously wanting to discredit mr jones. i bet your wit the britcliff brigade. if you dont want anybody to complain about kazi than the problem is with youself.

WillowTheWhisp 20-04-2007 19:52

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 413115)
Willow it is still nothing but gossip, no matter what is put on here without proof will always be gossip no matter how much you want to believe it! If we are to change things then we need proof, anyone that doesn't care about anything but themselves will continue to deny, even with the evidence in their faces.

So all this speculation without proof is just speculation, (without proof), and no-one should encourage others to do something that will create a chance for the guilty to hide behind the law.:(


You are mis-highlighting me Less. The distinction I was making was between words spoken which float off into the air and more often than not are forgotten by the next morning and words written on a message forum which remain permanently for all to see. Both may be gossip, heresay etc but one is fleeting whereas the other is of a more permanent nature and can therefore be more damaging. I would still like to hear any evidence and any defence.

garinda 20-04-2007 21:09

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 413141)
i bet your wit the britcliff brigade. if you dont want anybody to complain about kazi than the problem is with youself.

Just to make one thing clear, you seem to be under the illusion that anyone who questions you must be conspiring with the 'Britcliffe brigade'.

I have never been a member of any political party, and have certainly never voted Conservative, either locally or nationally.

However I do think everyone should be presumed innocent, unless concrete evidence is laid out before us, to show otherwise, something you constantly haven't achieved.

Mancie 20-04-2007 21:16

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It's all the same old spool... accusations, gossip.. the same old gondola stuff.....gondola seems to be rowing with a big spoon.. stirring up stuff but never really giving facts.

garinda 20-04-2007 21:19

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 413250)
It's all the same old spool... accusations, gossip.. the same old gondola stuff.....gondola seems to be rowing with a big spoon.. stirring up stuff but never really giving facts.


...with Ianto telling us all to give both of them a fair hearing.

The mystery of the no information accusations plot thickens.;)

spinner 20-04-2007 22:13

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regarding the 'britcliff brigade ' comment, actually i wasnt reffering to you garinda. stop assuming your own importance. you constantly remind us that you hav a right to your opinion than perhaps ianto is entitled to his opinion without you making snide remarks.

garinda 20-04-2007 22:58

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Originally Posted by spinner (Post 413285)
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regarding the 'britcliff brigade ' comment, actually i wasnt reffering to you garinda. stop assuming your own importance. you constantly remind us that you hav a right to your opinion than perhaps ianto is entitled to his opinion without you making snide remarks.

Ok then, who is in the mysterious Britcliffe Brigade?

cashman 20-04-2007 23:00

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 413329)
Ok then, who is in the mysterious Britcliffe Brigade?

Kazi Siddique!:D

garinda 20-04-2007 23:02

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 413333)
Kazi Siddique!:D

Perhaps he didn't understand what he was signing when he joined up, because it was in English.:D


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